What is your car's horn?

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What the amp (current) rating bro...?

Get the higher amp rating..

Meaning get the higher number before the "A"

If what you have is 10A, get a 20A or a 30A

Bosch Europa, right?

Yes bro CVT silver Europa

Check ko later.

But if higher siya same fitting din ba? Baka hindi naman magsuwak yung ngipin sa butas?


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[CVT]

Yes bro CVT silver Europa

Check ko later.

But if higher siya same fitting din ba? Baka hindi naman magsuwak yung ngipin sa butas?


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It should be bro...

Don't worry about the high current rating of the relay, the battery can handle it.

Check also for any loose connection on the horns and the relay, too.. It could cause a spike in the current, frying the relay....

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Ano ang gamit mong horn at ilan? Ano rating ng relay mo na ginagamit? Yung total load mo sa horn should be lower than the rating ng relay mo.

1 set of europa lang. you have idea ilan load for that?

It should be bro...

Don't worry about the high current rating of the relay, the battery can handle it.

Check also for any loose connection on the horns and the relay, too.. It could cause a spike in the current, frying the relay....

Weird even the relay na kasama sa packaging nun horns hindi ample? Hehe


Thank you for this info bro, as always andyan ka for every tsikoteer


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1 set of europa lang. you have idea ilan load for that?



Weird even the relay na kasama sa packaging nun horns hindi ample? Hehe


Thank you for this info bro, as always andyan ka for every tsikoteer


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Hhmm, 3 times na nasisira? Don't replace the relay. Replace your car

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[CVT]

1 set of europa lang. you have idea ilan load for that?



Weird even the relay na kasama sa packaging nun horns hindi ample? Hehe


Thank you for this info bro, as always andyan ka for every tsikoteer


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That's why I am puzzled bro...

It's a pain to replace a component that often.

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Hhmm, 3 times na nasisira? Don't replace the relay. Replace your car

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Ipasyal mo ako sa Bulacan nang makapili dun sa garahe mo

That's why I am puzzled bro...

It's a pain to replace a component that often.

Yes bro. Kamot ulo talaga ako.

At ang mga magagaling na taga casa pa nag install ha

Bumalik ako sa binilhan ng relay, isang klase lang daw yun relay bro, wala higher rating daw. Brand lang daw nagkakaiba talaga.

I can see the puzzle on their faces nung nagtanong ako hehe


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[dr. d]

Mga gurus help.

This is the 3rd time nawalan ako ng busina

Lagi nasisira yung relay (nga pala eto ba yung maliit na square na may mga ngipin na parang adaptor?), pangatlong palit ko na today.

Ano kaya issue? Bakit lagi siya nasisira?

Bosch gamit ko na relay, now hella binili ko hehe sana magtagal.




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but if you are the only one afflicted with "weak relay disease"...
hindi kaya, yung businas mo ang prublema?

[D3nb3r]

At ang mga magagaling na taga casa pa nag install ha

Bumalik ako sa binilhan ng relay, isang klase lang daw yun relay bro, wala higher rating daw. Brand lang daw nagkakaiba talaga.

I can see the puzzle on their faces nung nagtanong ako hehe


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hahaha even yung micro relay at mini relay ng bosch ay may 30amps. Baka sa kanila di available.

For 2pcs set of horns which is around 55-60w a 10amps will do though maliit na margin yan if bumagsak yung voltage mo pero I doubt na babagsak ng kahit 12.5v. I suggest get a 20A next time.

It doesnt have to be bosch relay as long as its reputable.

[dr. d]

maybe the counter guy interpreted buyer as looking for a (physically) larger relay, not a larger capacity relay.

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hahaha even yung micro relay at mini relay ng bosch ay may 30amps. Baka sa kanila di available.

For 2pcs set of horns which is around 55-60w a 10amps will do though maliit na margin yan if bumagsak yung voltage mo pero I doubt na babagsak ng kahit 12.5v. I suggest get a 20A next time.

It doesnt have to be bosch relay as long as its reputable.

Thanks for this info, will look for a store na alam yung hinahanap ko hehe

I bought Hella this time

maybe the counter guy interpreted buyer as looking for a (physically) larger relay, not a larger capacity relay.

Doc sobrang clear nung tanong at paliwanag ko, pero yun na nga wala daw talagang ganoon at pare-pareho lang daw. Brand lang kinaiba.


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[CVT]

hahaha even yung micro relay at mini relay ng bosch ay may 30amps. Baka sa kanila di available.

For 2pcs set of horns which is around 55-60w a 10amps will do though maliit na margin yan if bumagsak yung voltage mo pero I doubt na babagsak ng kahit 12.5v. I suggest get a 20A next time.

It doesnt have to be bosch relay as long as its reputable.

Agree with you bro.,- I checked and the Bosch Europa horn is rated 50W+ so only 4A-5A of load.

Something is loading the relay and frying it.... Hhhmmmm....

Bro.cns,- anything unusual with the sound of the horn before it goes off?

Or normal sound lang,- and then the next round,- dead na kaagad?

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Bro.cns,- anything unusual with the sound of the horn before it goes off?

Or normal sound lang,- and then the next round,- dead na kaagad?

Yes may signs siya, humihina bro compared it’s normal sound.

Then pag sinubukan mo ng babad yung tipong mahabaang busina dun ata siya natutuluyan hehe


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[CVT]

Yes may signs siya, humihina bro compared it’s normal sound.

Then pag sinubukan mo ng babad yung tipong mahabaang busina dun ata siya natutuluyan hehe


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With that, bro.,- if the higher current capacity relay still gets fried,- it is the horn itself or the wiring...

If there is no loose connection, check the forced fit connectors on the relay- can you still return the horn (and replace it)?

The switch on the lower left is the switch on your steering wheel:
If you press on the horn switch on your steering wheel,- 30 and 87 gets connected, completing the circuit on the horn

[D3nb3r]

Yes may signs siya, humihina bro compared it’s normal sound.

Then pag sinubukan mo ng babad yung tipong mahabaang busina dun ata siya natutuluyan hehe


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Nung pag check ano daw ang nasira? ang coil or ang contact? ang coil kasi walang pake yan kahit gaano ka laki ng horn mo kahit busina ng barko pa yan basta ang contact that connects your horn to the source is big enough.

If humuhina ang busina mo that means mubabagsak din ang voltage mo. As your voltage goes down yung current mo naman ay tumataas. So if mahabang busina ang natutuluyan na ma wala tunog ng horn mo that means bagsak na boltahe mo nyan and during that time ma taas na current. But then if nakakapag start ka pa ng vehicle mo meaning above 13v kapa. Now I'm scratching my head hahaha

Check mo lang mga connections lalo na ang termination ng wires sa may relay. Ano gamit mo? cable shoe with crimping tool or solder?

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Bros CVT / D3nb3r

I checked my new relay 30A na siya.

Gaya ng sabi niyo that should suffice na noh?

If bumigay ulit ewan ko na. I believe lampas warranty period na yung horn.

Kinabit kasi yan sa casa, then nawalan after sakto PMS ko naman sa Honda SPA. They checked the horn is still okay daw, nirekta kasi nila sa battery then ayun nga the relay is busted nga daw talaga.




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Bros CVT / D3nb3r

I checked my new relay 30A na siya.

Gaya ng sabi niyo that should suffice na noh?

If bumigay ulit ewan ko na. I believe lampas warranty period na yung horn.

Kinabit kasi yan sa casa, then nawalan after sakto PMS ko naman sa Honda SPA. They checked the horn is still okay daw, nirekta kasi nila sa battery then ayun nga the relay is busted nga daw talaga.




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A defective horn can draw abnormally. I've had 1 that honked fine hooked directly to the batt, but won't when relayed. Placed the stock back & it worked perfectly. This meant nothing was blown, lines were good. Puzzled.....I then tested an old set of same brand & model, it worked & still is doing its job.
Bad new horns, even from German or nippon brands, are rare but are out there. Might this be your case too, sir?

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[CVT]

Bros CVT / D3nb3r

I checked my new relay 30A na siya.

Gaya ng sabi niyo that should suffice na noh?

If bumigay ulit ewan ko na. I believe lampas warranty period na yung horn.

Kinabit kasi yan sa casa, then nawalan after sakto PMS ko naman sa Honda SPA. They checked the horn is still okay daw, nirekta kasi nila sa battery then ayun nga the relay is busted nga daw talaga.




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Bro, highly unlikely that all the relays you installed are defective.

30A should be much more than enough.

Pag bumigay iyan- Most likely it is the horn... Deym!

If you can find a DC Ammeter (electrical auto shop), connect it in series with the horn and measure the current drawn as it connects directly with a battery... Malamang may spike iyan.... Kung okay after about 5 seconds of continuous honk, it must be the wiring....

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Bro, highly unlikely that all the relays you installed are defective.

30A should be much more than enough.

Pag bumigay iyan- Most likely it is the horn... Deym!

If you can find a DC Ammeter (electrical auto shop), connect it in series with the horn and measure the current drawn as it connects directly with a battery... Malamang may spike iyan.... Kung okay after about 5 seconds of continuous honk, it must be the wiring....

Will give this a last chance, pag bumigay ulit relay tsaka ko na ipa check sa shop na maalam.

Thank you bro CVT


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[D3nb3r]

Bros CVT / D3nb3r

I checked my new relay 30A na siya.

Gaya ng sabi niyo that should suffice na noh?

If bumigay ulit ewan ko na. I believe lampas warranty period na yung horn.

Kinabit kasi yan sa casa, then nawalan after sakto PMS ko naman sa Honda SPA. They checked the horn is still okay daw, nirekta kasi nila sa battery then ayun nga the relay is busted nga daw talaga.




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30amps is more than enough. If orig na relay yan kaya ng mag power ng 6pcs 60w horns yan.

Can you post a drawing of how you wired your horns? The reason why I ask last time if coil or contact ng relay ba sira is para ma isolate mo ang problema. Ang coil is not responsible for the load(horns). Its the contact that connects your horns to the battery so yan ang possible weak link if below the rating. Yung coil mo naman masisira lang yan if may possible short circuit, loose terminals(can produce arcing) or bumaba ng husto yung supply voltage mo but I doubt that's the case if kaya mo pa mag start ng engine. Also check the terminals if meron bang indication ng overheating or slight discoloration ng insulation. Baka yung termination mo lang sa mga terminals ng relay ang problema.

As what boss CVT said try checking how much current draw your horn is making.
If malapit ka lang sa akin pahiram ko sayo clamp meter ko

Hope this helps.

[CVT]

try checking how much current draw your horn is making.
If malapit ka lang sa akin pahiram ko sayo clamp meter ko

Hope this helps.

Ayos ang kalaruan mo bro.... Pangarap ko iyan a!