Budget Special: FORCE Vehicle Security System

[OTEP]

Most alarm systems won't transmit at the open parking beside The Podium also.

As for SNY, it looks pretty good on paper. But for me, I'm more into the OEM (plain-looking) transmitter. Chrome, leather, sliding covers, etc. aren't really my thing (was initially eyeing a GUDI system but the transmitter turned me off).

The other features are pretty much the same with FORCE except for the brake activated brakes (I'm not into that also, doesn't feel OEM) but it's a good feature for the forgetful set.

Trunk release is useless for me since I drive a wagon whose rear locks work with the central lock system. But its a good feature also.

As for the hood switch, it's good, but most of the hood switches that come with these Taiwan systems easily succumb to corrosion and become a source of trouble (e.g. false alarms, fail to trigger, etc.). Proper lubrication might avert failure.

And remember, a big part of a vehicle security system apart from the system itself is the quality of the install. So make sure your installer knows auto security.

[yomar]

Thanks to Dr. Rivera (OTEP), I just had this installed in my car. So far, no problems. The chirp alerts sound really "sosyal"

Jameson's really competent. Parang mani ang pagkabit. Makuwento pa hehe.

To those interested, I have a PDF version of the owner's manual of this alarm system. PM me if you would like to read it first before buying.

[OTEP]

Thanks to Dr. Rivera (OTEP), I just had this installed in my car. So far, no problems. The chirp alerts sound really "sosyal"

Jameson's really competent. Parang mani ang pagkabit. Makuwento pa hehe.

To those interested, I have a PDF version of the owner's manual of this alarm system. PM me if you would like to read it first before buying.

I'm glad you're satisfied with the system. For me, it's basic but it does the job.

As for SNY system, the price quoted does not include install and other parts. Figure Php300.00 or so for it. But you have the option to have it installed elsewhere. Lots of nifty stuff to browse at C3. My colleague and I went there to check the 'talking' alarms. Kaso bulol yung salita kaya hindi na kami kumuha.

[perrydathird]

Hi Doc,

If I may ask, ok kaya na magpakabit nito considering bago pa lang ang i10 ko? sa casa kasi, ang alarm with central locks cost 5.5k including labor. kay jameson, magkano ang labor, aside from the 1.6k cost of the alarm?

also, may i ask anong car mo and kumusta ang linis ng install?

Thanks!

[perrydathird]

Hi Doc,

If I may ask, ok kaya na magpakabit nito considering bago pa lang ang i10 ko? sa casa kasi, ang alarm with central locks cost 5.5k including labor. kay jameson, magkano ang labor, aside from the 1.6k cost of the alarm?

also, may i ask anong car mo and kumusta ang linis ng install?

Thanks!

[perrydathird]

Thanks for the reply Doc Otep!

Brand new Kia Picanto, the more than I am seriously considering having it installed in my i10. If you trust him that much, he must be that good!!

Sir, where can i purchase that alarm system, also, any tips on what to tell Jameson re installation?

[OTEP]

Install the control box in a hidden position

Affix the shock sensor onto something very stable and solid (e.g. vehicle body)

Wire the visible warnings onto the signal lamps instead of parklamps

One last thing, if you install an aftermarket alarm on a Picanto, the door ajar and tailgate ajar warning lamps will now illuminate at the same time irregardless of which door you have opened. Not really a big issue for me.

[perrydathird]

Thank you Doc! I am in touch with Jameson yesterday, just finding time for this install as well as a horn install. I am sure Jameson can do this easily.

Will update this forum once install is finished.

[aysiyadi]

To those interested, I have a PDF version of the owner's manual of this alarm system. PM me if you would like to read it first before buying.

Can you email the owner's manual? Thanks.

[bong5555]

[quote=OTEP;1201876]Most alarm systems won't transmit at the open parking beside The Podium also.

As for SNY, it looks pretty good on paper. But for me, I'm more into the OEM (plain-looking) transmitter. Chrome, leather, sliding covers, etc. aren't really my thing (was initially eyeing a GUDI system but the transmitter turned me off).

The other features are pretty much the same with FORCE except for the brake activated brakes (I'm not into that also, doesn't feel OEM) but it's a good feature for the forgetful set.

Trunk release is useless for me since I drive a wagon whose rear locks work with the central lock system. But its a good feature also.

As for the hood switch, it's good, but most of the hood switches that come with these Taiwan systems easily succumb to corrosion and become a source of trouble (e.g. false alarms, fail to trigger, etc.). Proper lubrication might avert failure.

And remember, a big part of a vehicle security system apart from the system itself is the quality of the install. So make sure your installer knows auto security.[/quote

[bong5555]

Hi Doc Otep,

ask ko lang po if its advisable to have an alarm with turbo timer sinz my ride is a pajero, or should i have it installed seperately? meron po bang FORCE or SNY car alarm na my turbo timer? tnx and God Bless po!

[Fargin]

galing ako kina jameson kanina for the alarm, but before that I went to C3 near A. Bonifacio for other goodies. (galing pa akong pasay, grabe naubos oras and gas ko sa trapik!). anyways, comment ko kay Jameson: ambilis nga nya gumawa. mani lang pag-install ng alarm system. sana nga tumagal itong alarm na eto sakin...pansin ko lang, kapag may isang pintong nakabukas and I press arm sa remote, hindi sha nag-aalarm, bakti ganun?

[butirog]

galing ako kina jameson kanina for the alarm, but before that I went to C3 near A. Bonifacio for other goodies. (galing pa akong pasay, grabe naubos oras and gas ko sa trapik!). anyways, comment ko kay Jameson: ambilis nga nya gumawa. mani lang pag-install ng alarm system. sana nga tumagal itong alarm na eto sakin...pansin ko lang, kapag may isang pintong nakabukas and I press arm sa remote, hindi sha nag-aalarm, bakti ganun?

Sir Fargin,
If there is an open door then you arm it, the system would chirp thrice, if every doors are closed properly. you should hear only a single chirp.
If just in case you hear 6 chirps it means its on the locator mode. You can just un-arm it and re-arm it to be sure.


I'm still on the learning process though with regard to understanding this Alarm Model. I cant seem to understand as well the Actice and Passive mode that it does. If anyone who also have this type installed. Pls also provide feedback. thanks!

[sm2by]

Hello Dr. Rivera (OTEP),
I'm thinking of getting the FORCE Security System for my Dad's 2005 Ford Everest because one of the remotes died and the other one is losing it's sensitivity. Since you had one previously installed; is the remote durable enough? Like if the plastics don't crack and the rubber on the buttons don't disintegrate. And your comment on the over-all system reliabilty.

I really need your advice on this since my Dad is also a Doctor and uses his car everyday and his car keys get treated like hell on a daily basis.

And about the "automatic central locking" feature do the door locks really activate automatically when you start the ignition?

And thanks for posting Jameson's number I'll contact him soon...

[TholitzReloaded]

Any idea how much po ang relay ng Honda? thanks.

[OTEP]

Tholitz, no problem. The relay won't cost more than Php250.00. Sa carshow Php100.00 lang ang bentahan.

So far, my system is ok. The remote is always hanging on my belt loop. Hitting things,etc. When I sleep on duty, nadadaganan ko pa.

And last Ondoy, nabasa din yung controller ng baha.

So far, so good. pati yung system ko sa sasakyan walang problem despite fording bumper deep water.

[TholitzReloaded]

Tholitz, no problem. The relay won't cost more than Php250.00. Sa carshow Php100.00 lang ang bentahan.

So far, my system is ok. The remote is always hanging on my belt loop. Hitting things,etc. When I sleep on duty, nadadaganan ko pa.

And last Ondoy, nabasa din yung controller ng bahay.

So far, so good. pati yung system ko sa sasakyan walang problem despite fording bumper deep water.

Hi Doc Otep, is the price the same for Honda Side Mirror Retract Relay?

[OTEP]

Hi Doc Otep,

ask ko lang po if its advisable to have an alarm with turbo timer sinz my ride is a pajero, or should i have it installed seperately? meron po bang FORCE or SNY car alarm na my turbo timer? tnx and God Bless po!

I don't really like bundling systems together (e.g. alarm and turbo timer combo). If one fails, the other goes too. Sort of like the scanner/printer/copier/etc. we have at the ward.

On my vehicle, the turbo timer and alarm are separate but jameson found a way for them not to go against each other.

Fargin,
AFAIK, it takes one or two minutes for the sensors to engage. So after you arm the alarm, if a door is still open, it will not trigger immediately.

On more expensive alarms, the arm tone will be different to remind you that a door is still ajar and the door sensor for the open door will not activate (it assumes you left it open on purpose (e.g. a long load extending out of the tailgate).

[bong5555]

I don't really like bundling systems together (e.g. alarm and turbo timer combo). If one fails, the other goes too. Sort of like the scanner/printer/copier/etc. we have at the ward.

On my vehicle, the turbo timer and alarm are separate but jameson found a way for them not to go against each other.

Fargin,
AFAIK, it takes one or two minutes for the sensors to engage. So after you arm the alarm, if a door is still open, it will not trigger immediately.

On more expensive alarms, the arm tone will be different to remind you that a door is still ajar and the door sensor for the open door will not activate (it assumes you left it open on purpose (e.g. a long load extending out of the tailgate).

Doc Otep,

Tama nga po kayo na it should be done separately, pag nasira yung isa hindi apektado yung isa, that's a good idea...sir doctor po ba kyo ng kotse
hehehe..dami kc nyong alam eh..anyway thanks for the advise, pakabit na lang din po ako ng alarm kay jameson anytime this week.

Isang tanong pa pala sir, ano po mas maganda FORCE o SNY? o pareho lang? mas prefered ko po kc sny....