need help... HID for 2009 city

[testament11]

I think you're wrong here. The Vios XX and all the standard Vios models have the same headlight, same reflector. I've seen so many XX models and their lights doesn't have the proper cut off of factory HIDs on reflectors.

ah ganun ba? as i thought na iba ang design ng sa vios xx, pareho lang pala din sa ibang vios... my my, thanks sa correction...

[glntVR]

ah ganun ba? as i thought na iba ang design ng sa vios xx, pareho lang pala din sa ibang vios... my my, thanks sa correction...

Yup, that's a boo on Toyota's part. As we know, pag H4 HID sobrang sabog talaga ang ilaw.

Just pointing it out so other people who read this would know.

[CVT]

weird naman kasi... pinaka light na nga na shade yung tint na pinili ko... medyo madilim pa din... actually mahirap lang naman makakita pag malakas yung ulan... and feeling ko talaga mahina yung headlights ng city 2009... anyways thanks everyone sa pagreply...

I own a 2009 City and IMO, hindi mahina ang bato ng headlights nito. Iyong tint ang problema mo bro,- I suggest you remove it or switch to something that's much clearer like a 40 or 50 rating... Kesa ma-aksidente or maka-aksidente ka pa....

8800:juggle:

[XTO]

In fairness, marami rin ako nakikitang naka HID na non projector types pero walang glare yung iba halogens nga sabog naman din

gt500m, Go for HID but be responsible na di sarili mo uunahin mo. Aim it properly (more lower and slightly to the right pa) kung di mo type galawin ang stock aim niya, either palit ka ng neutral front tint or alisin mo na

Osram Nightbreaker and the like could help but for medium black tint? dapat talaga diyan kaya ng mata mo.

[ghosthunter]

weird naman kasi... pinaka light na nga na shade yung tint na pinili ko... medyo madilim pa din... actually mahirap lang naman makakita pag malakas yung ulan... and feeling ko talaga mahina yung headlights ng city 2009... anyways thanks everyone sa pagreply...

If you feel it's hard to see when it's raining, how abut when you are driving at night?

It's not the headlights. It's the tint you installed on the windshield.

[glntVR]

May ibang kotse talaga kahit reflector type headlights, minimal ang glare or halos parang halogen lang. Same with fog lamps, some really cause glare kahit mababa yun iba naman almost zero glare.

Mas nakakainis pa nga yun mga naka Halogen nga lang pero parati naman naka high beam, kahit ilawan mo or sensyasan hindi pa din nagcchange to low. Or sobrang wala sa alignment nakatutok sa taas.

[istan]

+1 on Osram Nightbreaker. Try mo muna to, baka makatulong sa vision mo. Mura lng naman yun.
Yun tint, pinakamahal ata nabili mo. Hehe! So I feel ur pain.

[Starex_Gold]

yung umbrella sa lo beam ng 2.0S-L FD ay mas malaki sa umbrella ng 1.8S/V. at merong horizontal na line sa reflector nila.

yung HID ng trooper ko maganda ang pagkaka align. di nakaka silaw sa gabi at maganda ang focus sa road

[gt500m]

i might have exaggerated na sobrang dilim nya... i think nabigla lang ako last friday... sobrang lakas kasi talaga ng ulan. right now okay naman kahit night driving... siguro kailangan ko lang talaga ng additional help na light pag umuulan ng malakas lalo na pag gabi. by the way naiinis din ako sa mga naka HID na nakakasilaw talaga pero meron din naman kasi ako napapansin or nakakasalubong na naka HID na di nakakasilaw eh that's why naisip ko din it might work. i appreciate all your comments guys thanks.

[Helly]

i might have exaggerated na sobrang dilim nya... i think nabigla lang ako last friday... sobrang lakas kasi talaga ng ulan. right now okay naman kahit night driving... siguro kailangan ko lang talaga ng additional help na light pag umuulan ng malakas lalo na pag gabi. by the way naiinis din ako sa mga naka HID na nakakasilaw talaga pero meron din naman kasi ako napapansin or nakakasalubong na naka HID na di nakakasilaw eh that's why naisip ko din it might work. i appreciate all your comments guys thanks.

Agree ako kay XTO and istan, try mo munang magpalit ng headlight bulbs. Mamili ka na lang sa Philips X-treme Power or Osram Night Breaker (Philips XP is said to be slightly better because it's yellower), pero you can't go wrong with either.

Medyo mahirap nga lang maghanap ng Philips XP ngayon, and mas mahal siya (1,400 to 1,500). Limited availability sa Perfect Circle Banawe and C3 Accessories (C34x4.com). May binebenta din sa Blade stores pero ginto sa kanila (2,000+).

Osram NB naman mas maraming stocks lalo na sa Banawe. Average price is 1,100 (ie. Maspro) kasama na installation. I just bought a pair of H4 Night Breakers for my '09 Everest yesterday for 1,000 (Warren Automotive, Benavidez St. cor Recto). Ako na sariling nagkabit, mabilis lang naman. Huge improvement over the stock Osram bulbs.

You can also install all-weather/all-season bulbs sa foglights mo. If you have the budget, try mo yung Polarg Pure Yellow (2,000+). The yellow light will help cut through rain and fog.

Hope this helps!

[Starex_Gold]

agree with Helly, kung may fog lights ang City mo, lagyan mo ng Polarg pure yellow. ganun sa FD ko. 2,800 lang bili ko sa autoline makati.

sa FD ko, 6000K sa lo beam tapos pure yellow fogs. next, pure yellow hi beam :evillaugh

[testament11]

brader, baka mabato ka na niyan! hahaha...

[Starex_Gold]

brader, baka mabato ka na niyan! hahaha...

sobra ka naman

ganda naman tingnan diba?

[testament11]

panalong panalo... :clap:

[gt500m]

*helly and starex
salamat, i will try to consider your suggestions ... okay din pala yung polarg pure yellow pwede naman yan sa honda city 1.5 dba? babagay po ba yan sa polished metal na color ng city 1.5? does this mean okay lang na hindi na ko mag HID magpapalit na lang ako ng headlight bulb? ano po pala difference ng stock headlight bulb na nasa city 1.5 compared sa Philips X-treme Power or Osram Night Breaker?? thank you ulit...

[Helly]

*helly and starex
salamat, i will try to consider your suggestions ... okay din pala yung polarg pure yellow pwede naman yan sa honda city 1.5 dba? babagay po ba yan sa polished metal na color ng city 1.5?

I think the City's foglight is using H11 bulbs. If I'm correct, then Polarg Pure Yellow is available for it (it also comes in HB4, H1, H3 and H4 sizes). Kung babagay man or hindi, I think that's subjective. Some people (like me) like the looks of yellow fogs, yung iba naman kasi mahilig sa white/bluish light.

does this mean okay lang na hindi na ko mag HID magpapalit na lang ako ng headlight bulb? ano po pala difference ng stock headlight bulb na nasa city 1.5 compared sa Philips X-treme Power or Osram Night Breaker?? thank you ulit...

The '09 City still uses reflectors so the problem with putting HIDs without retrofitting projectors is the tendency for the light to be scattered rather than projected properly on the road. I'd say 95% of the time nakakasilaw talaga sa kasalubong pag naka-HIDs with reflectors lang. You can minimize the glare by aiming the headlights lower but that kinda defeats the purpose of having HIDs in the first place. Maliwanag nga pero in a very short distance lang.

Sayang naman if you spend money on an HID kit tapos sobrang glare pala (unless wala kang pakialam sa mga kasalubong mo). Takaw aksidente yan, baka masagi ka pa ng kasalubong mo dahil sa sobrang silaw.

Philips XP and Osram NB are much brighter than stock halogen bulbs. Their beams are wider and reaches out further. You don't even have to install relays and ceramic sockets since stock wattage pa rin sila. Totally plug and play. Disadvantage is the shorter bulb life compared to stock bulbs, pero sulit pa rin 'coz you really can't put a price on safety.

[Starex_Gold]

Kung gusto mo pure yellow na rin ilagay mo sa Headlights. ganyan yung everest ng classmate ko eh. polarg pure yellow sa headlights at fogs. ang result, walang bulag sa ulan. ganda ng output.

[gt500m]

thanks guys... i'm learning a lot from your posts... by the way i like the look of the bluish light fog lamps... effective din ba cya pag umuulan? i will visit autoline this november pag dumating na 13th month hehe i have a question pala hope you guys dont mind... kanina kasi nagpark ako sa tapat ng mcdo near metropolitan hospital in sta cruz di ko napansin mataas pala pag park ko and pag atras ko after sumabit yung ilalim... sumayad. ano nadadamage sa ilalim pag ganun?

[Helly]

thanks guys... i'm learning a lot from your posts... by the way i like the look of the bluish light fog lamps... effective din ba cya pag umuulan? i will visit autoline this november pag dumating na 13th month hehe i have a question pala hope you guys dont mind... kanina kasi nagpark ako sa tapat ng mcdo near metropolitan hospital in sta cruz di ko napansin mataas pala pag park ko and pag atras ko after sumabit yung ilalim... sumayad. ano nadadamage sa ilalim pag ganun?

Stay away from halogen bulbs with bluish light, they're pretty much useless during rainy conditions. Yellowish light is best for cutting through rain and fog. The exception to this is the Osram NB. Whiter/bluer than stock but doesn't really detract from the performance due to its design. Check out this link for a good review/discussion re: Osram NB: http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2139371

I highly recommend that you just go with Philips XP or Osram NB for the headlights and Polarg or Euroline (much cheaper than Polarg) Yellow for the foglights.

As for the damage sa ilalim ng car mo, depende kung saan sumayad eh. Taga-Binondo ako and I know the McDo you're talking about, medyo pataas nga yung parking niya, dapat dahan-dahan lang pag aatras ka na paalis. Usually scratches lang yan sa underbody and/or the muffler, although minsan nagagasgasan din yung ilalim ng rear bumper.

[Starex_Gold]

wag kang gagamit ng bluish white sa fog lamps. lalong mawawalan ng kwenta yan. about euroline naman, mas maganda yung Solarzen. sa euroline, napuputukan ako ng fuse. twice na. kaya nag Polarg na ako.