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    #21
    I am reading your blog about the process para ma optimize fuel injection, and you are explaining about digital signal injection and frequency na kalokohan..

    Sir, sorry but engineer po ako, field ko ang microelectronics, instrumentation and control, at yung pinagsasabi mo ay kalokohan.

    Sorry na binabara kita dito, pero kalokohan talaga ang claims mo, kaya ikabit mo na lang yan sa genset para makita natin yung effect ng digital signal at frequency generation na pinagsasabi mo sa fuel consumption.

    Kulang na lang sabihin mo na habang dumadaan sa fuel line ang eh I-microwave frequency expose mo,

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    #22
    Para maka-save talaga sa expenses sa sasakyan, maliban sa pagiging fuel efficient/wear and tear sa engine/chassis/electrical components.
    and without any putting any device(s)

    1. Gamitin ang sasakyan if necessarily required.
    2. Commute if less than 3KMS ang distance simula sa bahay at pupuntahan in a certain point (lalo sa mall)
    3. Maglakad or gumamit ng bike, maliban sa exercise, nakabawas pa ng greenhouse gases.


    Hindi lang po FC efficient, naka-save din sa wear and tear ng sasakyan (body, chassis, engine), nakatipid pa sa gastos ng parking, periodic maintenance, at car wash...

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by vvti2.0 View Post
    Kulang na lang sabihin mo na habang dumadaan sa fuel line ang eh I-microwave frequency expose mo,
    Pass the fuel line thru a strong magnet. It's probably cheaper, and just as effective..

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    #24
    Sir dr. d, you can save around 8% fuel with a strong magnet. Who'll pay hundreds of pesos for a measly 5-10 percent savings?

    Engr. vvti, hindi mo naintindihan ang blog. Digital square waves-not triangular, sawtooth or sine, using subsonic pulsing frequencies. Sana getz mo na.

    Mr. playplugg, ok suggestions mo para sa cars na euro 4/obd2 compliant. Paano na yong mga euro1 and 2 vehicles?

    Thank you to all the tsikoteers who replied and also to the hundreds of viewers na ngtiyagang mgbasa sa mga mainam at hindi mainam na comments. Sana naaliw kayo. The varied reactions were sometimes negative, quasi-positive, hostile and one brilliant suggestion.
    Instead of bashing our minds on our humble innovation, which will not go away like, as lsb said, a rash that will not go away, sana magisip tayo ng pagsayaatan, hindi yong naghahanap tayo ng butas para maidown ang mga imbensyong baka sakaling makakatulong sa atin. Kung ang innovation namin ay may potential na ikabubuti ng madla, tulungan niyo akong palaguin ito. Kung makakasama naman, ilibing natin nang buhay. It’s that simple, bros.

    Let’s make our holiday bright, let’s be merry and discard our negatively deepseated emo.
    Wika nga ni apl d app, “Pilipino, Pilipino, Pilipino, salamat sa iyong suporta, Pilipino, pilipino, pilipino, salamat sa………..”

    Happy, prosperous 2015.

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    #25
    Ngayun nagpakita ka na ng katangahan, kung square wave sinasabi mo, ano pa ba kailagan na sabihin mo digital, at kung babangit ka ng sawtooth, di mo ba alam na triangular na yun?

    At kung di ka paps engot, nakalimutan mo ata na kapag wave generation ang usapan, ang pinakamadali mo na magagawa ay square wave, so bakit ka papakahirap na gumawa ng sine at triangular, transistor, resistor at capacitor combo lang, may multivibrator ka na.

    Wag mo na pahabain usapan, isalpak mo na yan sa genset. Next time na balik mo dito make sure na realistic data ka na galling sa controlled environment na maipapakita, hindi yung testimonial at sa experiment mo na bara bara.

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    #26
    Quote Originally Posted by pyramid00 View Post
    Sir dr. d, you can save around 8% fuel with a strong magnet. Who'll pay hundreds of pesos for a measly 5-10 percent savings?

    Engr. vvti, hindi mo naintindihan ang blog. Digital square waves-not triangular, sawtooth or sine, using subsonic pulsing frequencies. Sana getz mo na.

    Mr. playplugg, ok suggestions mo para sa cars na euro 4/obd2 compliant. Paano na yong mga euro1 and 2 vehicles?

    Thank you to all the tsikoteers who replied and also to the hundreds of viewers na ngtiyagang mgbasa sa mga mainam at hindi mainam na comments. Sana naaliw kayo. The varied reactions were sometimes negative, quasi-positive, hostile and one brilliant suggestion.
    Instead of bashing our minds on our humble innovation, which will not go away like, as lsb said, a rash that will not go away, sana magisip tayo ng pagsayaatan, hindi yong naghahanap tayo ng butas para maidown ang mga imbensyong baka sakaling makakatulong sa atin. Kung ang innovation namin ay may potential na ikabubuti ng madla, tulungan niyo akong palaguin ito. Kung makakasama naman, ilibing natin nang buhay. It’s that simple, bros.

    Let’s make our holiday bright, let’s be merry and discard our negatively deepseated emo.
    Wika nga ni apl d app, “Pilipino, Pilipino, Pilipino, salamat sa iyong suporta, Pilipino, pilipino, pilipino, salamat sa………..”

    Happy, prosperous 2015.
    retard -

    two school of thoughts

    u.s.a - lead by tesla motors(tesla motor is building the infrastructure for free recharge station across the continental u.s. but catered only to tela motors) now being followed by bmw - the answer is electricity - problem is the li-ion battery and charging time(though the u.s. through darpa discovered a way of fast charging in seconds)

    japan - fuel cell vehicles - much more feasible- being implemented slowly in japan.

    i bet you this crap will be again posted in the worlds most dumbest video, like the khaos fuel saver

    stop shaming the Filipino people and go commit suicide, stop using the name in the good of the Filipino for you own turd ill motive.

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    #27
    :popcorn:

    :burp:

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    #28
    Ilocano ata si TS.
    Nakita ko yung word na "pagsayaatan" sa reply nya. Meaning.....ikabubuti.

    Cool lang tayo mga erap. Baka ma lock itong thread.

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    #29
    It should be locked.

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    It should be locked.
    I second the motion. These kind of threads should have no place in a forum. This is not a advertisement. Bayad na lang sila sa tsiot for a formal ads. Yun ang tama.

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    #31
    And don't just lock the thread. BAN THE TS! Kung pwede nga padalhan ng virus yang inutil na yan e! Virus na tunay ha, hindi yung sa computer!

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    #32
    lets talk about digital:
    1 - digital rectal exam
    2 - digital sound - ???
    3 - as in nor, nand, or, and gates
    4 - 0I000II0I, boolean algebra, etc
    5 - square waves - fast rise,fast decay, 50% duty cycle, (e.g. 10 hz, there are 10 pos and 10 neg, we utilize the pos pulses and the neg pulses are damped by a diode) alam niyo naman ito, i'm sure. what's the fuss about the digital term?
    6 - digital age, and so forth and so on, ad infinitum

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    #33
    engr vvti, your suggestion of installing the devices on a genset is considered. next year, kung bukas pa itong thread, we'll do your suggestion: narito ang mga dapat gawin:

    1 - P10k for the two devices, excluding vat and lbc charges, 60 days warranty. If 10% lang ang savings, soli bayad at gumamit ka na lang ng magnetic fuel saver. Kami ang magiinstall,
    2 - kung maari, pic ng genset, dia of fuel line. it should be non-magnetic. i.d. of air induction hose, and other pertinent specs
    3 - pwede diesel or gasoline - _____kw?
    4 - dapat malaman natin ang consumption, e.g. .5l/hr, 1ltr/hr, pls refer to the gensets' fuel consumption history.

    pls state your suggestions/options. Sana, focus muna tayo sa holidays at New Year.

    Wishing everybody a merry & bright holiday season. Wish you a happy and prosperous 2015!

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    #34
    Bakit di mo ikabit sa genset mo.

    Wala ka pa napapatunayan, naniningil ka na.

    Alam mo sir, yung mga devices ng gaya sayo, sa youtube lang tumatakbo yan.

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    #35
    Gusto mo sumikat? I-energise mo ang street mo using your gadget, ipakita mo ang tipid.

    Kung di mo magawa, lalo ka lang nagmumukha na gago.

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    #36
    ok, sana tanungin mo ang vrtl, wala na kasing ibang facility dito na magtesting ng drive cycle. ipina-drive cycle ko na ang isang 7k engine para makita na may savings, ayaw niyo pang maniwala sa isang scientific testing. actual testing yon sa vrtl.

    If you dont believe the vrtl drive cycle test results, wala akong magagawa. Pls review the results. If you cant access it on our blogsite, you can send me an email and i will send the docs to you. Maggoogle din ng drive cycle test.

    Read the vrtl-drive cycle thread, too. Thank you.
    Last edited by pyramid00; December 21st, 2014 at 07:11 AM. Reason: spelling, tense

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    #37
    Wag mo na ilayo topic, gensetmo na salpak. Sarili mo ang una mo na niloloko dito, hindi kami.

    Iwas ka ng iwas sa akin.

    Ganito yan, para na rin ipakita ko dito na katangahan procedure mo sa testing, kung idrive test mo yan, ilan ba variables mo?

    Kung sa genset mo yan isasalpak, ilan ba variables mo?

    If di mo yan masasagot, ibig sabihin di mo alam pinag gagawa mo.

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    #38
    ts, ikabit mo nalng sa katawan mo yang device mo at lock na itong thread ng sa gayon "maka-save" kami ng time sa pagbasa sa kalokohan mo.

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    #39
    “THE BEST WITNESS IS THE EVIDENCE; the vrtl drive cycle test results said it all.”

    The DC test comp said that an engine was tested and it exhibits a fuel savings of x % * 40, 60 and 80kph. The bottom line is that the devices save fuel.

    This DC test result is posted as a public doc for the sake of record. Some ts won’t accept it. They have their own reasons. To those who believe it, salamat po. Hindi ako ang paniwalaan niyo but the testing results..

    For technical queries, pls forward them to: Dr. Edgar N. Quiros or Engr. Luis Yu, VRTL, College of Engineering, UP. Dilliman, QC

    Sa mga nagmumura dito at nanggagago pa, in the spirit of Christmas, I forgive you.
    Last edited by pyramid00; December 21st, 2014 at 11:24 AM. Reason: wrong word used

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    #40
    Quote Originally Posted by pyramid00 View Post
    i'm sorry, that's not what i meant. ok, take 2. a dyno test cant be compared with a drive cycle test because a dc test is too taxing for an old engine. in fact, i requested to test the devices on any jeep plying around UP but the director refused saying that the jeep may not be able to withstand the stress that an old engine will undergo.

    It is our intention to test the device at Speedlab in the future and then again an emission test at VRTL so that the series of testing will be complete; economy test at vrtl, dyno test at speedlab and emission test at vrtl. I've read in a thread that niky mentioned a P5k/hr dyno test at speedlab. Maybe, the dyno test will be on a izusu crosswind.

    btw, testing will not be done on a euro 4 engine esp a obd2 compliant engine. the upstream and downstream 02 sensors will just signal the ecu to dump more fuel via the injectors. of course, this conditions will be 'cured' by efi enhancers for gasoline engines and map enhancers for diesel engines. Medyo madugo ang activiting ito. Gagastos ka sa fuel savers + sa mga enhancers. Hindi ko alam kung available ang mga ito dito. You best bet for tuning ecu controlled/obd2 compliant engines? Engine tuning with chips.

    Anyway, we installed the devices on a toyota innova diesel and the owner said that he is getting 14k/l on the highway. The bad part is that he does not know the baseline.
    I get 15km/l fron my Innova on highway. All stock.

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