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    #11
    Its like a rash that just won't away.

    Present day streets are filled with econo-boxes that are a dime a dozen.

    Good luck on your endeavor.

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    #12
    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    Its like a rash that just won't away.

    Present day streets are filled with econo-boxes that are a dime a dozen.

    Good luck on your endeavor.
    I'm sorry, sir lowslowbenz, the nuvitron.ph is here to stay and thanks; hope to make edsa cleaner.

    dr.d, syempre, pagsawaan mo muna ang ride mo bgo mo isipin and mods. Pinili ko ang 18yo engine to prove my point, a 15yo engine could still be enhanced. This innovation is especially for the smoke belching vehicles. Better mixing/combustion means added power and cleaner emissions. (obd2 compliant cars do not need this).

    There are guys who are 'galit' sa jeepneys/buses. Tamangtama ito para sa kanila since hindi naman kaya ng govt ang magphaseout ng vehicles. Next test will be on a crosswind which has the reputation of being targetted by mmda

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    #13
    Quote Originally Posted by pyramid00 View Post
    dr.d, syempre, pagsawaan mo muna ang ride mo bgo mo isipin and mods. Pinili ko ang 18yo engine to prove my point, a 15yo engine could still be enhanced. This innovation is especially for the smoke belching vehicles. Better mixing/combustion means added power and cleaner emissions. (obd2 compliant cars do not need this).
    I don't buy the reasoning. Why should I make tiyaga on my newer engine, if that product can improve on its fuel efficiency?

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by pyramid00 View Post
    baseline is 9k/l * 80km/h
    In other words, the engine was a basket case before the device was installed.

    And that's not a 90% savings. At 9 km/l, you are using 11 liters per 100 km. At 17, you are using 5.88 liters. That's a 48% savings in terms of money.

    If you have a Tamaraw doing juts 9 km/l on the highway, there are a lot of things you can do to fix its consumption before installing a fuel saver.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #15
    Kapag may nakakausap ako na related sa mga ganito ang products like HHO, alcohol injection etc.. At ang proof ay testimonial lang at hindi controlled environment testing, isa n lang ang request ko, isalpak sa generator at lagyan ng constant load.

    Mas mura yan sa dyno testing, at makikita mo agad ang consistency sa fuel consumption kung effective nga ang fuel saver etc..

    Parang yung energy saver yan sa kuryente, ang claim nya ay half daw yung energy ang consumption, and sa testing nga totoo.. Kasi pinakita nya na at a constant load 50% lang yung current consumption habang ginagamit sya and that is yung sa flat iron or a load that uses a heater.

    Ang di nya pinakita, ay kung gaano katagal yung duration para ma-achieve yung temperature requirement nya which is twice the needed time. Kaya in the long run, mas tumaas pa yung losses mo talaga kasi habang humahaba oras, bumababa efficiency mo.

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    #16
    sa tutuo lang, kayong mga taga ciudad ang natutulungan ng device na ito dahil sa sobrang dumi ng kalangitan niyo. hindi na langit ang dapat itawag diyan kung di'y *#^&*. sa dami ng jeeps, buses at mga taxi's, nangangati ang ilong ko sa edsa.
    hindi niyo maphaseout ang jeepney at mga lumang bus lalo na ang kuliglig at two cycle bikes. baka ito ang sagot sa dumi sa kalangitan niyo.

    ok, sino ang may pinaka-smoke belching diyan na crosswind, testing natin, pero sagot niyo ang device/s at testing dahil naubos ang laman ng bulsa ko sa testing. kung gusto niyo sa vrtl na lang, pero sagot niyo ang vrtl test. sagot ko ang 2 devices. syempre, sa 2015 na.

    whew! nakakapagod ang sumagot sa replies. pass muna ako for several days. (wala man lang isa ang positive reply, epekto siguro ng smog

    btw, i think i heard dr quiros say that the two test (emissions and fuel economy) cost P50k. sana may kumasa.
    Last edited by pyramid00; December 17th, 2014 at 10:18 PM. Reason: 1 important info

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    #17
    vvti, ihanda mo ang genset sa 2015, gasoline or diesel.

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    #18
    Ito yung usual answer ng mga energy saver salesmen kapag wala na maisagot, salpak mo sa genset, kapag napautanayan mo na kahit man 5% sa total fuel consumption per kWh ang matipid ng device mo, kahit mga generating companies eh hahabulin ka.

    At sa darating na energy crisis sa summer, bilangin mo kung ilang genset ang malalagyan mo.

    Ang tao, kung walang sasakyan, may option na magcommute, pero kapag walang kuryente, maghahanap yan ng genset kapag nayamot kakaantay.

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    #19
    Parehas kayo ni Aviso, mention ng mention ng UP, si Aviso eh ni mention si Prof. Escoto na ambait bait na ayaw lang magbigay ng bad comment kaya di na lang nagsalita.

    Sir, ikabit mo sa genset, run at constant load, wag ka na magpalusot ng kung ano ano pa. Kung di mo kaya gawin eh, sa iba mo na lang i-market, kung san mas marami ka pwede makumbinsi at limited lang ang kaalaman para i-test ang katotohanan ng device mo.

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    #20
    Quote Originally Posted by pyramid00 View Post
    sa tutuo lang, kayong mga taga ciudad ang natutulungan ng device na ito dahil sa sobrang dumi ng kalangitan niyo. hindi na langit ang dapat itawag diyan kung di'y *#^&*. sa dami ng jeeps, buses at mga taxi's, nangangati ang ilong ko sa edsa.
    hindi niyo maphaseout ang jeepney at mga lumang bus lalo na ang kuliglig at two cycle bikes. baka ito ang sagot sa dumi sa kalangitan niyo.

    ok, sino ang may pinaka-smoke belching diyan na crosswind, testing natin, pero sagot niyo ang device/s at testing dahil naubos ang laman ng bulsa ko sa testing. kung gusto niyo sa vrtl na lang, pero sagot niyo ang vrtl test. sagot ko ang 2 devices. syempre, sa 2015 na.

    whew! nakakapagod ang sumagot sa replies. pass muna ako for several days. (wala man lang isa ang positive reply, epekto siguro ng smog

    btw, i think i heard dr quiros say that the two test (emissions and fuel economy) cost P50k. sana may kumasa.
    pluck you with an arrow! mga kawawang jeep and bus franchiser ang target mo! para malinis ang hangin ang kailangan ay iban ang mga lumang jeeps and buses(or apply the cle air act to them and enfoce it properly)which they are now trying to sort out by the use of e jeepneys and lpg powered buses

    ala kang magawa mag suicide ka na lang o sumama ka sa gt oil mangagantso

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