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  1. Join Date
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    Dear All,

    In the near future i will be driving my own delivery truck for my trading business. This owner driven truck will be a large 4-wheeler closed van type, hopefully brand new but more likely a unit from one of those auction companies.

    I have the best intentions to keep it in tip top shape.

    But since its a delivery truck, it will be a target of those anti-smoke belching units. I am willing to be pulled over and be inspected because i am confident hindi smoke belcher truck ko. But i do not trust them to give an accurate reading.

    What are ways to prevent them from pulling you over and in case they test your vehicle you wont get any bogus results and fines.

    Will showing a monthly emission test cert, from a legitimate emmisson testing center, be enough to let me be?

    I will not bribe those fools to let me go when they even dont have a case against me. But ayoko rin pag initaan if they will see me regularly pass that way again. Gusto ko sila unahan na tama mga papeles ko at nasa tama condition truck ko.

    I will frequent both slex and nlex as well as C5. And even edsa.
    Lahat ata ng diesel engine dun na hindi pickup o passenger jeepney, pull over nila.

    Sa mga northern luzon roads PNP-tmg at LTO naman ata mga bwitre. What kind of violation are those men looking for anyway?

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    #2
    front of our residence is a company who maintains a fleet of trucks... pansin ko, tubig wash ang muffler, di ko lang alam how often per week or monthly basis

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    Redhorse is right. Like you said that delivery trucks are the primary target for belching… Exhaust system h20 flushing is proven for diesel engine that belch. Once a week or twice a month will do in your case. Don’t forget also to look after the air filter cleanliness aside from regular oil change.

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    #4
    best is to avoid them* (you know)

    gather info about time and place of their tambayan, and how to position or which lane to take, so it will difficult for them to go after you...

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    sir, may experience ako diyan, I just wish to share but I dont know if this will help though.

    When i had a trading business right after college, I too frequently drove my own delivery van, pero L300 FB lang but same case. I did it for a year and a half and d ko na mabilang ilang beses ako tinigil ng mga yun.

    Well maintained din yung unit ko before (weekly scheduled wash sa muffler) but regardless, they still wont stop and i got sick of giving bribes to them.

    If I remember correctly, 4 times ako na nahuli when they actually confiscated my plates. Huge hassle cause I had to have my muffler cleaned again, then get a passing emission test certificate, and then get my plates back.

    Eventually, my mom came up with this idea to stick a "Radyo Veritas" sticker sa windshield nung van kasi very active ang mom ko sa church na malapit sa amin. So why not give it a shot right? It just so happend na yung area na tambayan nila malapit din sa church so every time they would stop me, i would say na sa church yung van tapos nagdadala lang ako ng goods for them. This is partly true kasi hinihiram din nung church yung FB na dala ko. The cool thing is it worked! Pagtapos sasabihin ko pa "God bless bossing and salamat!" hehehe . After a few more times, eventually nakilala na nila yung unit so tumigil na sila.

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    2 steps lang yan boss:

    1.) Bring play money and toss it to the sidewalk.

    2.) Enjoy the scramble...

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    Quote Originally Posted by flagg View Post
    2 steps lang yan boss:

    1.) Bring play money and toss it to the sidewalk.

    2.) Enjoy the scramble...
    hahaha! ayos yan a!

    medyo OT lang. Am currently having some problems with a smoke belching truck. Safe ba yung pagbutas doon sa may exhaust pipe para matubigan yung buong tubo? hindi kasi ako masyadong komportable dun sa idea na may sisirain near the exhaust manifold.

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    NA TRY KONA SA PICK UP KO MAGLAGAY OK NAMAN WALANG PROBLEM MHIRAP LANG MAGLINIS ng o maglagay ng hose sa ilalim pero madali mag linis tlga tangal ang latak just add liquid dsh washing o shampoo sa water

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    nakabili kami ng second hand pick-up meron na siyang butas dun sa may engine bay pang tambucho binobombahan lang namin ng tubig pumapasa naman sa emission test
    pero minsan iwas iwas nalang para walang aberya marami diyan sa C5 nanghuhuli hehe

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    Hindi marunong bumasa ng emission cert. mga iyan. :lol:

    Bago umalis linisin/tubigan ang tambutso tapos rebolusyon mo. Pakuskos mo rin para di naiipon deposits. 3 years na kaming hindi nahuhuli.

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    Once nahuli din ako using our Hyundai Grace and I was hauling goods for my dad's business. Buti na lang yung nakahuli sa kin malapit lang sa amin nakatira (the enforcer found out when he saw my license) so he let me go. So everytime may pumapara sa kin, I check kung meron silang pang-habol, kung wala, I simply ignore them.

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    sa TMG and LTO sa provincial route, ang kailangan ay legal ang truck mo sa details - Name and Address of Company (tel number din daw) must be clearly printed on the body of the truck.

    Sa mga FB type naman na hindi close van dapat merun "NOT FOR HIRE" signage.

    Kung ang itsura ng truck mo ay hindi close van - like the L300FB or the Isuzu PV models - mas hindi ito "takaw sita".

    Hindi prone sa sita (smoke belching) yung mga modelong sasakyan kasi alam nilang compliant pa ang mga iyan. So keeping your ride looking very well maintained outside also prevents this.

    Maganda yung play money strategy ah.... better start scanning real money and printing them in color with water marks na "BAYAD SA KOTONG COPS"

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    Dati nung L200 pa gamit ko, twice ako nahuli sa may EDSA southbound malapit sa Munoz. Yung mga bugoy na nanghuhuli gagawa ng on the spot check kuno sa emission mo, may ikakabit na sensor sa tambutso mo pero yung hunghang naman tatapakan nang todo yung silinyador! Aba e talagang uusok yun!

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    Make sure your truck is properly marked with all the requied markings (not for hire, capacity, etc.)

    If you're getting it new, do not neglect maintenance, oil changes, etc.

    Always check that your air and fuel filters are clean.

    Shift gears at the proper intervals (don't shift too soon) as the engine will try and catch up with the gear and it may smoke.

    The use of additional biodiesel can help. (not product plugging here, ok?)

    The company that I work for right now bought an L300 FB about a few years back, we've followed the steps outlined above and *knock on wood* so far so good. They don't get stopped and even if they do, they can't say it's a belcher since even their rigged equipment makes it pass.

    One more thing, don't drive it like you stole it as it may cause it to smoke.

    Hope this helps.

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    Kung may alternate route, take side streets na lang para iwas sa mga g***ng yan.

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    If they mentioned that the closed vans are more takaw-sita, maybe instead of a closed van type you can get a Canter or ELF type truck with a passenger "FB type" rear (my Tito uses a Kia KC2700 for his business and it seems to be holding well).

    Aside from the regular service, using BioD from time to time and cleaning the tailpipe, when they pull you over for an "emissions test", keep your engine running while waiting as an engine that is out of operating temp range would have poorer emission results as compared to an engine running in the optimal temp range. Keep the vehicle clean and looking well-maintained.

    Those emission pullovers are a real hassle since they stop a lot of vehicles, it takes up a lot of time as well. A favorite playground i would see is C5 Kalayaan.

    With my Frontier before, i would just keep the filters clean, change the oil every 5,000kms and i only washed my tailpipe once in the 5 years it was with me. I would drive the engine hard or rev it hard when parked once in a while and it would hardly have any visible smoke emissions.

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    thanks for all your replies,

    just came from NE, military, plus some PNP units with long rifles, ang mga nag sita around 9pm, cagayan valley road.

    about the markings of a closed van type, one of my suppliers once commented that sa manila pag may markings truck mo mas madami sita. but no comment sya sa provincial roads.

    about a passenger type body on a elf/canter, dba may seperate set of mga iwasan yun example sa roxas blvd bawal daw passenger jeepney type ng vehicle. but most likely hindi naman ako madalas dun. thanks for this tip. baka i consider ko narin bilhin yun mga assembled na AUV sa may san fernando (kung mas mura). i believe they have elf chassis and engine and i saw one recenly innova or crv headlights pa.

    i dont know of the cost factors yet but i want a vehicle with more than 3.0L displacement para hindi ma laspag sa cargo hauling. dmax na dala ko kaya weight but not the bulk, kung may safe and legal way lang na ma extend yun cab consider ko rin yun (i often remove the backseat to accomodate cargoes). i even consider putting a General purpose trailer but hindi ako marunong mag drive nang ganun at ibang set of new rules din,

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    On a serious note:

    Yung mga provincial na yan sir kurt, Php20 lang naman yata.

    Sa mga smoke belching teams... I wonder if you can ask to see kung current yung calibration certificate nila. Pati na rin DOST accreditation ng calibrating center?

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    If you travel thru makati....might as well get your vehicle voluntary checked by their pollution control offcie at the fire station along ayala. Its P300 and good/valid three months. gud luck!!!!

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    #20
    Quote Originally Posted by DLV View Post
    If you travel thru makati....might as well get your vehicle voluntary checked by their pollution control offcie at the fire station along ayala. Its P300 and good/valid three months. gud luck!!!!
    Thanks for the heads-up boss. Magawa nga ito, parang pre-paid.

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