fuel consumption help (vios 2013)

**the halo** · September 10th, 2013 07:32 PM

Hi sirs;

I am just new here, i recently bought a new 2013 A/T Toyota Vios E. i was informed that it has a fuel consumption of average city driving 13km/liter. pero nung ginamit ko sha, lumalabas na 8.4 kl/liter lang sha. yung 500 peso ko na gas tumotal lang ng 81 kl before the fuel sign started lighting up. is this normal? nakaka 800 kl palang sha since makuha ko. thanks in advance.

**niky** · September 10th, 2013 07:53 PM

13 is possible. With absolutely no traffic.

8 km/l sounds about right. Bago pa lang tsikot mo. It should get better after the first 5,000 to 10,000 kms.

**renzo_d10** · September 10th, 2013 08:03 PM

13km/L in rush hour traffic using a Vios is impossible.

I own a Gen 2.5 Vios and I tell you, 8km/L is possible. 7km/L even. My worse was 7.1km/L..

And that's perfectly fine. Why? My driving style is a factor. My route is another. My aircon level as well. And many others.

Maraming factor na nakakaaffect ng fuel consumption. If you want to achieve 13km/L, leave early to avoid traffic. Level 1 lang fan ng aircon, 10 o'clock thermostat, shift at or under 2krpm and don't do jack-rabbit starts. Also, pump up your tires to around 35psi. Also, kung traffic yan tapos 2kms lang yung travel mo, di talaga matipid yan.

My average right now is 10.5-11km/L with traffic. Goes down 8km/L if the traffic is really bad.

Bago palang Vios mo. Should get better after 5000Kms PMS. Also, mag-full tank method ka para malaman mo talaga average. Pag puro 500 pesos, di yan ganun kaaccurate

**the halo** · September 10th, 2013 09:52 PM

thank you everyone, it really helped! actually mas okay pa din sha kesa nung una kong car, (toyota Corona 1996) 500 ko is only good for 1/2 balikan sa office, hahaha, thanks again sirs!!!

**Langabe** · September 10th, 2013 10:09 PM

Mas maganda kung pa full tank mo tsaka mo compute yun fuel consumption.

**xagent_orangex** · September 10th, 2013 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by renzo_d10

13km/L in rush hour traffic using a Vios is impossible.

I own a Gen 2.5 Vios and I tell you, 8km/L is possible. 7km/L even. My worse was 7.1km/L..

And that's perfectly fine. Why? My driving style is a factor. My route is another. My aircon level as well. And many others.

Maraming factor na nakakaaffect ng fuel consumption. If you want to achieve 13km/L, leave early to avoid traffic. Level 1 lang fan ng aircon, 10 o'clock thermostat, shift at or under 2krpm and don't do jack-rabbit starts. Also, pump up your tires to around 35psi. Also, kung traffic yan tapos 2kms lang yung travel mo, di talaga matipid yan.

My average right now is 10.5-11km/L with traffic. Goes down 8km/L if the traffic is really bad.

Bago palang Vios mo. Should get better after 5000Kms PMS. Also, mag-full tank method ka para malaman mo talaga average. Pag puro 500 pesos, di yan ganun kaaccurate

Myth: Air conditioning will hurt fuel economy

Reality: There has been much debate about whether to drive with the air conditioner on or keep the windows open in order to save gas. Using the A/C does put more load on the engine, but in our tests, we found just a slight decrease in fuel economy and no measurable difference when opening the windows (open windows do increase aerodynamic drag). However, using the A/C helps keep the driver alert and more comfortable, which is safer for everyone on the road. We say, just use the A/C and don't worry about it.

Myths: You'll get more gas for your money if you fill up in the morning

Reality: A common tip is to buy gasoline in the morning, when the air is cool, rather than in the heat of the day. The theory is that the cooler gasoline will be denser, so you will get more for your money. However, the temperature of the gasoline coming out of the nozzle changes very little, if at all, during any 24-hour period of time since it is stored in underground tanks. So long as the gas station does even a modest business, gas won't heat up much in the pump, and even if so, that is a relatively small amount. For the extra effort to chase cool temperatures, any extra gas you get will be negligible, and making a special trip will certainly burn far more than it would be possible to save. Just buy when it is convenient.

Myth: Inflate tires to the pressure shown on the tire's sidewall.

Reality: The pounds-per-square-inch figure on the side of the tire is the maximum pressure that the tire can safely hold, not the automaker's recommended pressure, which provides the best balance of braking, handling, gas mileage, and ride comfort. That figure is usually found on a doorjamb sticker, in the glove box, or on the fuel-filler door. If the tire pressure is down 10 psi, our testing has shown that it can make a 1 mpg difference in fuel economy. But far more significant is the impact on handling, braking, and wear--all of which can cost you one way or another. Check the tire pressure monthly after the car has been parked for a few hours. (See our Ratings of tire pressure gauges.)

Myth: Premium gas is better for your car.

Reality: Most vehicles run just fine on regular-grade (87 octane) fuel. Using premium in these cars won't hurt, but it won't improve performance, either. A higher-octane number simply means that the fuel is less prone to pre-ignition problems, so it's often specified for hotter running, high-compression engines. So if your car is designed for 87-octane fuel, don't waste money on premium and if you car recommends (not requires) premium, you can usually get away with using regular. Some cars truly require premium, meaning you're stuck paying extra. Keep this in mind when shopping for your next car.

source: http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/n...ruth/index.htm

**vinj** · September 11th, 2013 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Langabe

Mas maganda kung pa full tank mo tsaka mo compute yun fuel consumption.

This... is the first thing one should do to measure fuel consumption. Never rely on that "P500 or P 1000 gets me XX number of kms"... it's pretty much useless (full tank method already has some inaccuracies, what the more yung peso = XX km method?)

**revans** · September 23rd, 2013 11:04 AM

Noob question here and a 1st time car owner.... are all gasoline today are unleaded? Nalilito kasi ako kung ano papa karga ko, like in Petron Xtra advance gasoline lang ang clearly marked as unleaded, how about the XCS with the 95 octain rating? Or the petron BLAZE 100?

**niky** · September 23rd, 2013 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by xagent_orangex

Myth: Air conditioning will hurt fuel economy

Reality: There has been much debate about whether to drive with the air conditioner on or keep the windows open in order to save gas. Using the A/C does put more load on the engine, but in our tests, we found just a slight decrease in fuel economy and no measurable difference when opening the windows (open windows do increase aerodynamic drag). However, using the A/C helps keep the driver alert and more comfortable, which is safer for everyone on the road. We say, just use the A/C and don't worry about it.

In the Philippine setting, it has a huge effect. US driving is mostly highway, when you're going at a constant speed, the extra engine load is negligible. When you're stopped completely in traffic, the AC is worth around 0.2 to 0.4 liters per hour. (From actual testing)

Originally Posted by xagent_orangex

Myth: Inflate tires to the pressure shown on the tire's sidewall.

Reality: The pounds-per-square-inch figure on the side of the tire is the maximum pressure that the tire can safely hold, not the automaker's recommended pressure, which provides the best balance of braking, handling, gas mileage, and ride comfort. That figure is usually found on a doorjamb sticker, in the glove box, or on the fuel-filler door. If the tire pressure is down 10 psi, our testing has shown that it can make a 1 mpg difference in fuel economy. But far more significant is the impact on handling, braking, and wear--all of which can cost you one way or another. Check the tire pressure monthly after the car has been parked for a few hours. (See our Ratings of tire pressure gauges.)

This is flat out wrong. The "maximum psi" figure on the side of the tire is the pressure at which a tire stops increasing in load capacity. The maximum safe pressure for the tire is a number that tire manufacturers would not like you to know, much like the maximum safe dosage for medicine is not printed on the bottle.

Originally Posted by xagent_orangex

Myth: Premium gas is better for your car.

Reality: Most vehicles run just fine on regular-grade (87 octane) fuel. Using premium in these cars won't hurt, but it won't improve performance, either. A higher-octane number simply means that the fuel is less prone to pre-ignition problems, so it's often specified for hotter running, high-compression engines. So if your car is designed for 87-octane fuel, don't waste money on premium and if you car recommends (not requires) premium, you can usually get away with using regular. Some cars truly require premium, meaning you're stuck paying extra. Keep this in mind when shopping for your next car.

source: Five car maintenance myths and the money-saving truth

Agree. But this is highly dependent per car. Experimentation will tell you whether it's worth it on yours.

**lowslowbenz** · September 24th, 2013 05:01 PM

We have a Gen 2.5 2010 1.3E A/T

12 kms/litre mixed road conditions
19 kms/litre highway (100-120 kph ave speed)
Mileage: 67K+++
Tyre pressure: 35 psi on all 4 tyres.
Upgraded tyre size: 185/70R14