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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    I'm dreaming to ride a compact car with:

    *500cc CRDi VGT (0.5L)

    *7-9 speed DSG transmission

    *40kms+/L consumption (2.5L/100Kms)

    *minimum top speed of 200kmh stable

    *0-100 of 7secs.

    *Engine must have 150-200hp.

    *Then costing only 500-700T pesos brand new. hehe.

    If that happens, hybrids and fuel cell cars would be thrown back into stone age. hehehe.

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    #2
    My dream...

    Mercedes Bluetec diesel E-class

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    nice dreams... not to interupt it pero parang unrealistic yung combination ng 500cc engine putting out 150-200hp

    my dmax is already 3.0L turbo intercooled and yet it is less than 200hp.

    500cc divided by 4 (pistons) eh di ang displacement nito ay tig 125cc lang (parang typical size ng motorcycle pistons and displacement). Siguro this could produce only about 20-40hp normally aspirated (125cc motorcycles have less than 10hp AFAIK). Even the suzuki hayabushi 1.3L doesn't put out that much hp.

    Except for those 2 the rest are realistic -

    *7-9 speed DSG transmission - workable eto

    *40kms+/L consumption (2.5L/100Kms) - with a small displacement workable din.

    *minimum top speed of 200kmh stable - very workable, 400cc bikes can do this and still stable. as such the car should be as heavy as a big bike only... I am imagining a low profile big kart (as in big bike). So it is like a bigger version of a kart with a 500cc engine (likely supercharged or turbo charged with intercooler). Full roll-bar protection and covered by kevlar/carbon fiber composite.

    *0-100 of 7secs. - very doable if the vehicle is light.

    *Then costing only 500-700T pesos brand new. hehe.... with the concept of a big gokart it should be less than 500T pesos brand new.

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    #4
    gusto ko ng BMW na diesel pang-daily

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    If that happens, hybrids and fuel cell cars would be thrown back into stone age. hehehe.
    wag naman sana, Diesel is still not a earth dream.

    my own silly dream is to fit a BMW 520d 2.0 Liter Diesel Engine in our Van. and fit a BMW 535d 3.0 Liter Engine in the Pajero.

    buying a brand new BMW is another dream.
    Last edited by rion; June 4th, 2007 at 06:00 AM.

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    naunahan nyo ako....the closest car to that dream is the BMW 330d.

    sa presyo lang malayo

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    my diesel dream is the 2008 or 2009 TOYOTA LANDCRUISER 200.

    yup wala pa ito but most likely it will take a cue from the 08 LEXUS LX570

    tutal nananaginip na rin tayo he..he

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    i think horsepower is referring to a 4 cylinder 500 cc per cylinder diesel engine;

    as to whether such as an engine can put out 150-200 hp, I'd say, keep that dream bro' one day it might come true
    remember that the diesel engine is not yet really 100% efficient in converting the thermal energy stored in "diesel" fuel into mechanical energy. Assuming just for the sake of dreaming, the diesel engine or compression ignition engines can be tweaked by some computer control or some imaginative means of injecting or burning the fuel, it just might be able to put out those HP figures.

    case in point, 50 years ago, the CRDI diesel engines would not have been possible w/o the computers that controls the fuel injection system in a modern CRDI engine. the horse power figures that we have for the latest diesel engines that are now mounted on ordinary passenger vehicles would have been mind boggling by the standards of 50's or 60's. A more recent example is when you compare the HP figures of the normally 2.5 L Isuzu 4JA1 w/c only puts out 79-80 hp while the 1.5L VGT CRDI engine of the hyundai accent gives 114 HP. that's a 34 hp difference for a 4 Liter total engine displacement difference (2.5 x 4 = 10 liters for the 4JA1 vs. 1.5 x 4 = 6 liters for the Hyundai).

    But of course, this will all be limited by the laws of physics that not all energy transformation can be 100% efficient.
    Last edited by rsnald; June 4th, 2007 at 09:37 AM.

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    #9
    dream ko pajero na TDIC :sleep2: kelan kya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildthing View Post
    nice dreams... not to interupt it pero parang unrealistic yung combination ng 500cc engine putting out 150-200hp
    +1 on this. Medyo unrealistic for the moment ang ganun output.

    And if ever it comes to that... I think that the current tech of CRDi & VGT would have been obsolete already. Heck, even the whole concept of the current diesel engine would have been obsolete.

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