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    From the Philippine Star 3/9/07

    Electric vehicle goes on trial run in Cavite ecozone
    By Ma. Elisa P. Osorio
    The Philippine Star 03/09/2007

    The Philippine Economic Zone Authority (PEZA) is hosting the trial run of the first locally produced vehicle that runs on batteries and electric power.

    PEZA Director General Lilia B. de Lima said the Philippine Electric Vehicle (PEV) will be used first within the government-run Cavite export processing zone. The PEV will transport the 90,000 workers within the zone during the trial run set to begin next month.

    The vehicle's inventor Roel Judilla said each unit will cost P600,000 to make. However, he said they are still ironing out kinks in order to bring down costs to between P300,000 to P400,000.

    According to Judilla, the PEV is not yet optimized because it runs only 80 kilometers every four-hour charging session, costing P1,500 per full charge.

    In addition, he said the PEV cannot be used commercially or in far places. He said the car may only be used for specific short distances like inside the ecozone, military camps, subdivisions or theme parks. "The use of the PEV must be confined in fixed distances and small places."

    But Judilla said he is confident he can come out with a more efficient version in two months' time. For instance, he said he is developing a model that would run using solar energy to avoid the exorbitant electricity costs.

    Initially, he said 50 units will be produced. He said they will market the vehicle to high-end subdivisions, leisure parks and resorts.

    The objective of the PEV is to introduce a clean and sustainable urban mass transport service on a limited travel distance. He said the PEV is a cheaper transport service when compared to the jeepney.

    The PEV sits 10 passengers. Majority of the parts, or 70 percent, will be sourced in the country. Francisco Motors Phils. designed the body and chassis while the safety glass came from Asahi Glass Philippines.

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    Kababasa ko lang nito sa Philstar. Ok na sana kaso big issue 80Km lang and 1500Php ang isang full charge.. ngek! Pero if they improve the battery and how to utilize yung power na mukukuha sa car at mailalabas ng car ma giging hit to. Yung Prius ata yun pang nag break ang car yung breaking na co-convert nila into a energy na mag c-charge ng battery means walang waste kaya utilized ng maigi ang energy at mas malayo maitatakbo ng car.

    What's good is our country men are trying to do something.

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    P1500 to travel 80 kilometers. I don't think that can be considered good mileage. A minibus with a modern diesel engine and modern emissions controls would probably have less environment impact and less cost per kilometer too.

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    Hopefully they can improve the mileage to a decent number. Might take a few years but if it works then its good for the country.

    Wonder what kind of battery they are using? If they are targeting 300,000 to 400,000 production cost then I think its a safe bet they won't use lithium-ion batteries. Pls don't use lead acid battery. Cause if you do, then you will have a very heavy vehicle and you'll need to replace your batteries every 1-2 years. Imagine you have 8 to 12 lead acid batteries that you need to change every 1 to 2 years. Magkano kaya ito?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesvhong View Post
    Kababasa ko lang nito sa Philstar. Ok na sana kaso big issue 80Km lang and 1500Php ang isang full charge.. ngek! Pero if they improve the battery and how to utilize yung power na mukukuha sa car at mailalabas ng car ma giging hit to. Yung Prius ata yun pang nag break ang car yung breaking na co-convert nila into a energy na mag c-charge ng battery means walang waste kaya utilized ng maigi ang energy at mas malayo maitatakbo ng car.

    What's good is our country men are trying to do something.
    AFAIK, Hybrid ang Prius. During low speeds, electric motor yung gumagana and pag high speeds, switch over sya to gasoline.

    The first car to employ regenerative braking was GM's Impact. Don't know what happened to it na, pero I read about it when it was first featured sa Discover magazine.

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    I think it was recalled by GM and put in storage. GM did not sell the cars, they only leased them and recalled all units after the lease was up. AFAIK, some owners wanted to buy the car but GM won't let them.

    Watched the above on a tv show a few yers ago.

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    GM didn't put the cars into storage, GM had the cars destroyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactus View Post
    AFAIK, Hybrid ang Prius. During low speeds, electric motor yung gumagana and pag high speeds, switch over sya to gasoline.

    The first car to employ regenerative braking was GM's Impact. Don't know what happened to it na, pero I read about it when it was first featured sa Discover magazine.
    Currently there is a six wheeler truck cab & chassis being sold in the local market that uses a hybrid assist system. The hybrid assist system helps the truck to accelerate from a stop or slower speeds via its electric motor powered by a small battery. Its recharged via regenerative braking and from the diesel engine.

    Adapting that technology would probably have been more effective with a typical bus' stop & go route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactus View Post
    AFAIK, Hybrid ang Prius. During low speeds, electric motor yung gumagana and pag high speeds, switch over sya to gasoline.
    A Prius pass me by while walking back to the ground floor parking lot, running on batteries napaka stealth ng dating, never heard it coming.

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    PEV will be used to military camps, subdivisions, theme parks? uhmm sounds like Golf Carts to me...

    1,500 petot for an 80 kilometer journey, dapat nga gas/electric or diesel/electric combo.

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    Oops sorry mga peeps double post. Mga mods please delete.
    Last edited by Camgen6; March 9th, 2007 at 02:19 PM.

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    If this vehicle is what I think it is... it.s probably the ANFRA EV there inside FMC in Las Pinas.

    Mechanical Efficiency? ......ewan
    Power to Weight? ............Lead BAtteries excluded?
    Racing Technology Applied.......???????????????????????????????

    Di ba natin napapansin that the practice of the world is to make a race involving prototypes using new propellant technology. This way - they wioll be able to assess and identify all data concerning the vehicle. Since Car Manufacturing involves BIG Responsibility to Humanity.

    Anyway, Test Trial lang naman... and ang Lab Rats are the CEPZA workers. I hope walang makuryente... Sabagay if the technology or idea is borrowed from a Golf Cart. It can't go wrong; systemwise. But if the applied technology is Home Garage system.... Anyway, what would they come up with next? (I am talking about Big Plans... and Announcements)

    Renault and other French Car Makers has perfected the EV... They even have a Beautiful Open Top sports car made. Ford also made a hybrid that tops the 80mpg bracket. Japan has even a better system similar to France where you just pay for the usage of the car which you get and leave at certain points or terminals. Just like riding the LRT, instead of riding the bus, you drive a small EV car. then when you reach your point of destination, you may leave it there and plug it in their terminal ports/ sockets.

    I don't think EV and Hybrids will have a bite of the pie for the next 30 years... or more. The Gasoline Direct Injection or GDI (made by Mitsubishi) will be the next generation engine or cars that will rule the market.

    If we are really serious about EV vehicles... There should be a race. A Challenge. so everyone can have a spirit of competition and - maybe - able to travel in the same road where America, Japan, Australia traversed. The Land Speed Race is not just for fun... it is where they get data for future technologies as well as future consumer products. By that time, EV's will fall under consumer Electronics na to an extent - check out Toyota's Personal Mobility Concept... also VW's Nano Car.... these are concepts but doable already.

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    18 pesos per kilometer? Ouch. I can't remember what the price of electricity is, but does that means their car is only getting an efficiency of around 1 km for every 4 kwh of charge? What? Foreign made electrics get 4 kms per kwh.

    For comparison, regular gas cars can get 3-5 pesos per kilometer in city traffic (current gas prices), the Prius, Getz CRDi and the 1.3 gas cars should get around 2 pesos per kilometer, and even the freakishly old AUVs can get 3.2 pesos per kilometer.

    Maybe they're trying to make the vehicle size and capacity competitive with current gas vehicles. Hard to do... electric vehicles need lighter materials, thinner tires and more lightweight construction to offest the weight of the batteries.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Maybe they're trying to make the vehicle size and capacity competitive with current gas vehicles. Hard to do... electric vehicles need lighter materials, thinner tires and more lightweight construction to offest the weight of the batteries.
    Yes, but you can put the same lightweight exotic stuff on a conventional car and it'll save on gas/diesel too!

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    Exactly.

    I'm still waiting for the Philippine super-low-emissions vehicle that gets 100 mpg.

    Siguro, diesel kuliglig engine attached to a "rubber band" transmission from a scooter, on a plywood frame with bicycle tires and seats... with a fiberglass shell. Di nga lang road-legal... but it'll definitely be fuel efficient.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Nyek for short distances lang pala mga yan sa diesel na ako..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesvhong View Post
    Kababasa ko lang nito sa Philstar. Ok na sana kaso big issue 80Km lang and 1500Php ang isang full charge.. ngek! Pero if they improve the battery and how to utilize yung power na mukukuha sa car at mailalabas ng car ma giging hit to. Yung Prius ata yun pang nag break ang car yung breaking na co-convert nila into a energy na mag c-charge ng battery means walang waste kaya utilized ng maigi ang energy at mas malayo maitatakbo ng car.

    What's good is our country men are trying to do something.
    INDEED. Rather than sit here and whine i guess this is a one step forward on the brighter side. GO Pinoy !
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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Exactly.

    I'm still waiting for the Philippine super-low-emissions vehicle that gets 100 mpg.

    Siguro, diesel kuliglig engine attached to a "rubber band" transmission from a scooter, on a plywood frame with bicycle tires and seats... with a fiberglass shell. Di nga lang road-legal... but it'll definitely be fuel efficient.
    niky you read my mind!!!

    meron akong design niyan, kuliglig engine with a two-wheel pulley "automatic transmission" (yung centrifugal gear shifting) from a go-kart.

    i have a long rant about it over in the PHUV thread. I even quoted you liberally, matunog mga rants mo eh.

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    80km 1500pesos? For true hardcore environmentalists, they wouldn't care. But as a daily driver, Pinoy, in a country where we aren't ready to sacrifice clean air for money...not many Filipinos would buy the car if it existed as a private car. Unless money isn't a concern for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Siguro, diesel kuliglig engine attached to a "rubber band" transmission from a scooter, on a plywood frame with bicycle tires and seats... with a fiberglass shell. Di nga lang road-legal... but it'll definitely be fuel efficient.
    the problem is the "rubber band" tranny from a scooter is actually a CVT belt drive. Under the loading of a typical PUV, it wont last long.

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