Biodiesel Rulez!!! [ARCHIVED]

**falken** · February 13th, 2006 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by pajerokid

safe pa kaya gamitin ang biodiesel after 2 years of being stuck? i found two liters of estrol kasi among my stuff. smells okay pa naman and no residue. hindi naman exposed sa sunlight. sayang din kasi hehe.

Not safe na raw after 6 mos. according to biodiesel.org.

Here's the link:

http://www.biodiesel.org/pdf_files/f...yths_Facts.pdf

**RafRaf** · February 13th, 2006 01:29 PM

Dun sa seminar ng Chemrez, they were recommending upto a year as long as it is sealed. If the seal is opened, use it within the month. Why? It was said that the biodiesel will start to react/oxidize the air - bacterial growth and something to that effect.

By the way, they (Chemrez) showed that their bioactiv bottles have manufacturing date read as mont-year-day (Dec 17, 2005 = 120517).

**jaeger** · February 13th, 2006 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by RafRaf

COCO-BIODIESEL REALLY REALLY RULES!!!

super agree to that RafRaf !!! in fact, I will resume using biodiesel in my D4D innova.

my innova's bd history is:
0000~1000km odo = break-in period, no biodiesel used
1000~6000 km odo = used senbel estrol at 1-liter per full tank
6000~9000 km odo = stopped using biodiesel due to D4D engine woes thread
9000 km odo now resuming use of biodiesel - bioactiv 1-liter per full tank

my hunch is : the reason why there are D4D fuel supply pump failures is lack of lubricity in local diesel.

*altec, are you still using bd on your innova? estrol or bioactiv? still at 1% blend?

**falken** · February 13th, 2006 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by jaeger

super agree to that RafRaf !!! in fact, I will resume using biodiesel in my D4D innova.

my innova's bd history is:
0000~1000km odo = break-in period, no biodiesel used
1000~6000 km odo = used senbel estrol at 1-liter per full tank
6000~9000 km odo = stopped using biodiesel due to D4D engine woes thread
9000 km odo now resuming use of biodiesel - bioactiv 1-liter per full tank

my hunch is : the reason why there are D4D fuel supply pump failures is lack of lubricity in local diesel.

*altec, are you still using bd on your innova? estrol or bioactiv? still at 1% blend?

Great decision, AFAIK, Toyota doesn't have any qualms about people using biodiesel on the D4D engine.

**Field Master** · February 13th, 2006 03:26 PM

Not a good days to start the week. This morning I got my full tank along shell commonwealth. Then I passed along edsa to buy bioexceed at SEA Oil EDSA GMA. They dont have 1 liter stock so I bought 5bottles in 200ml. So I pour the content on my tank opening one by one. On my 4th bottle I missed to catch the "plastic cap lock ring" and it went inside the tank. I don't have any idea of what is inside the gas tank? Do you think that plastic material will do harm on my tank or will clogged the passageway? What do you think guy.

**altec** · February 13th, 2006 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by jaeger

super agree to that RafRaf !!! in fact, I will resume using biodiesel in my D4D innova.

my innova's bd history is:
0000~1000km odo = break-in period, no biodiesel used
1000~6000 km odo = used senbel estrol at 1-liter per full tank
6000~9000 km odo = stopped using biodiesel due to D4D engine woes thread
9000 km odo now resuming use of biodiesel - bioactiv 1-liter per full tank

my hunch is : the reason why there are D4D fuel supply pump failures is lack of lubricity in local diesel.

*altec, are you still using bd on your innova? estrol or bioactiv? still at 1% blend?

Jaeger, yup. I showed you the notebook with my fuel economy details. That was my innova's notebook. I posted some details over at the innova fuel economy thread. 1% blend, both estrol and bioactiv. Pwede ko rin ipost dito. I theorized with Jun about my innova data, kasi di tumagal ang pagshift ko from estrol to bioactiv, and there was an increase in fuel economy but this coincided when I transferred residence, which is farther but less traffic. I asked him if shifting from one brand to another or 1% to 2% would have an effect. Ang sagot niya one brand to another should not have any statistically different results as long as it is uncontaminated BD. I plan to experiment to 2% after I get sufficient data from 1% under bioactiv, and from my new house, para constant ang variables, dosage lang magiiba.

Regarding lubricity, tama ka! Pareho line of thought natin. Di ko na mention sa seminar, kasi napaka rush rush na, and it slipped my mind na rin. But when I started using BD, after a few loads, nag start yung choking problem ko, (remember I mentioned this sa innova thread natin and over at my fuel economy thread), pero nawala after I removed and reinstalled the filter, duda ng mekaniko ko maluwag, kaya may hangin, kaya nag choke. NOW, I think nawala yung problema soon after, kasi nakatulong yung BD use ko sa lubricity requirements, especially with Toyota's finding that a certain spring in the pump is the culprit. Lubricate that spring properly, and it's possible minimize ang problema! Whacha think?

I distinctly remember mr. Dodo Galindo in his soft voice saying that 1% BD will improve diesel lubricity by 32%! Dunno if how may others found that significant to be remembered, kasi nga di ganun inemphasize ni mr. galindo.

**altec** · February 13th, 2006 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Field Master

Not a good days to start the week. This morning I got my full tank along shell commonwealth. Then I passed along edsa to buy bioexceed at SEA Oil EDSA GMA. They dont have 1 liter stock so I bought 5bottles in 200ml. So I pour the content on my tank opening one by one. On my 4th bottle I missed to catch the "plastic cap lock ring" and it went inside the tank. I don't have any idea of what is inside the gas tank? Do you think that plastic material will do harm on my tank or will clogged the passageway? What do you think guy.

Most plastics float, so it should not be a problem if you don't bring down your fuel down to the barest minimum. But better to find a way to remove it. One way is to really top up your fuel tank next time you refuel. When you are near the top, sabihin mo sa pump boy dahan dahan lang, hanggang makita with the naked eye yung fuel near your fuel cap opening. Hopefully you can see the plastic cap. Use some thin tongs, the ones you would use in the kitchen or the ones you use to remove your baby bottles from the sterilizer, and pluck it out.

**garyq** · February 13th, 2006 04:35 PM

When the sulfur content of our diesel was reduced the lubricity of the fuel was drastically affected. To increase the lubricity mfg had to put in additives. Sa mga studies posted sa biodiesel.org and some data I have a 32% increase in lubricity in B1 is not far-fetched coz sa scar marks on cylinder walls 50% ang reduction sa B1.

**aaron drin** · February 14th, 2006 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by Field Master

Not a good days to start the week. This morning I got my full tank along shell commonwealth. Then I passed along edsa to buy bioexceed at SEA Oil EDSA GMA. They dont have 1 liter stock so I bought 5bottles in 200ml. So I pour the content on my tank opening one by one. On my 4th bottle I missed to catch the "plastic cap lock ring" and it went inside the tank. I don't have any idea of what is inside the gas tank? Do you think that plastic material will do harm on my tank or will clogged the passageway? What do you think guy.

field master,
all fuel tanks have stop cock use for draining. Kapag schedule ka na for PM, pa drain mo na rin yung fuel tank.
Dont worry kasi it will not get into yor fuel sysytem naman. May mga pre filters and strainers ang fuel line kaya lang it could hamper yung flow ng fuel.

**aaron drin** · February 14th, 2006 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by falken

Kailan kaya matutuloy ito? When I bought biodiesel from Petron Baguio last Nov., the guy there told me that it'll be available soon in the whole Luzon area. Yesterday, nagpakarga ako sa Petron Macapagal wala pa ring biodiesel for sale. I hope it'll be available really soon.

Very very soon na Petron will carry BD. Its a matter of signing the MOA. Hope everything run smooth.