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    #1
    OTEP: Please register all the members of DieselClub.Org and give to me so I can arrange special pricing from Senbel. I might be able to swing a substantial discount kina Beng Santos. BTW, aside from the handle, give me their respective names so I can meet with Senbel asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodfire
    OTEP: Please register all the members of DieselClub.Org and give to me so I can arrange special pricing from Senbel. I might be able to swing a substantial discount kina Beng Santos. BTW, aside from the handle, give me their respective names so I can meet with Senbel asap.
    Sir,pwede ba ko palista as member ng Diesel club. can you tell me how to join.interesado ko sa Biodiesel.

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    #3
    meron na for gasoline?!!


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    #4
    magkakaroon ba ng coco methyl ester na 2t oil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesoline View Post
    magkakaroon ba ng coco methyl ester na 2t oil?
    alam ko naglabas na dati ang senbel. parang namatay din yata saka sa quezon province lang daw yata nabenta. from what I've read sa isang study done in UP TMC (traffic mangt center yata tawag dun, basta yung katabi ng Melchor hall, yung may malaking sundial), nasubok na yata nila sa tricycles. can't remember the results though... parang reduced emissions din yata. medyo maingay lang daw kasi di makuha ng cme ang viscosity required for a lubricating oil...masyado sya malabnaw.

    try browsing thru these links:
    http://www.vespinoy.com/forum/index....ic=265.msg4358
    http://www.pcierd.dost.gov.ph/news/pcierdway.htm

    google mo lang +2T oil +CME
    dami ka links makikita

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    The Senate approved yesterday on second and third reading Senate Bill (SB) No. 226, "An Act that would Allow the Use of Biofuels as an Alternative Source of Fuel for the Transport Sector."

    Sen. Miriam Defensor Santiago, author of the bill "Biofuel Act of 2006," welcomed the unanimous approval of the measure, saying its passage will not only promote the use of indigenous renewable fuels but would also reduce the country’s dependence on imported fuel and promote the protection of public health and environment.

    The bill makes it mandatory for vehicle owners to use two kinds of biofuel: The Bioethanol or E10 from sugarcane as an additive to gasoline, and Biodiesel or B1 from coconut, as an additive to diesel.

    Miriam stressed that the bill directs the immediate compulsory use because the two fuel blends require no engine modification for either diesel or gasoline engines.

    Senate President Manuel "Manny" B. Villar Jr. said the biofuel bill is very timely at this time when the price of oil in the world market is rising.

    "It will have a big effect in our economy and it is about time that we look for alternative source of fuel," Villar said after the biofuel bill was approved in a plenary session of the Senate.

    Aside from its positive effects in the economy, Villar said the biofuel bill will also help the agriculture sector and could encourage people to engage in farming and convert their produce into biofuels.

    The Senate President expressed optimism that both chambers of Congress would be able to finish their respective versions when Congress session resumes next month.

    "I don’t see any difference between the House and Senate versions and I am optimistic that everything will be reconciled during the bicameral conference," he said.

    The House of Representatives recently approved its own version of the biofuel bill authored by Rep. Juan Miguel Zubiri.

    Biofuel is derived from biomass, living organisms like plants or their metabolic byproducts, such as manure from cows. It is a renewable energy source, unlike other natural resources such as petroleum, coal, and nuclear fuels.

    Under the bill, all liquid fuels for motors and engines sold in the Philippines shall contain locally sourced components.

    Bioethanol will be blended at five percent into all gasoline fuel distributed and sold in the country within two years from the effectivity of the act.

    The mandatory five percent blend of bioethanol, according to Miriam, will save the country $ 160 million annually, while the 10 percent blend in the fourth year will save the country $ 354 million.

    Biodiesel will be blended into all diesel fuels, immediately upon the effectivity of the Implementing Rules and Regulations (IRR) to be issued by the Department of Energy, through the Biofuel Board, which will be created by the law.

    Within two years from the effectivity of the act, the Biofuel Board will mandate two percent of biodiesel by volume.

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    meron sila before. I sold their CME na 2T and used in on 6- kawasaki HDIII (125cc) na pang delivery. I also have the studies conducted by Senbel. Sa experience ko mukhang may problema nga sa viscosity coz had problems with piston rings seizing. Subjective etong observation na ito. I think kailangan pang i-test.


    Quote Originally Posted by rsnald View Post
    alam ko naglabas na dati ang senbel. parang namatay din yata saka sa quezon province lang daw yata nabenta. from what I've read sa isang study done in UP TMC (traffic mangt center yata tawag dun, basta yung katabi ng Melchor hall, yung may malaking sundial), nasubok na yata nila sa tricycles. can't remember the results though... parang reduced emissions din yata. medyo maingay lang daw kasi di makuha ng cme ang viscosity required for a lubricating oil...masyado sya malabnaw.

    try browsing thru these links:
    http://www.vespinoy.com/forum/index....ic=265.msg4358
    http://www.pcierd.dost.gov.ph/news/pcierdway.htm

    google mo lang +2T oil +CME
    dami ka links makikita

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    Hi All!

    Yes, a gas version will be out.

    Am just waiting to get oriented with it then will share the details with you guys

    :regards:

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    aba aba pati kotse vegetarian na lolx

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    In the news . . . Chemrez is going public - they plan to raise P1.5 billion.

    Also, buti pa Ford - they publicly state the bio-diesel compatibility of their new Ranger :


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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger View Post
    In the news . . . Chemrez is going public - they plan to raise P1.5 billion.

    Also, buti pa Ford - they publicly state the bio-diesel compatibility of their new Ranger :

    hindi katakataka na mauna Ford to go for B4 blend coz in the U.S. they're pushing to pass B5 biodiesel as mandatory, then eventually B20. While our recently approved biofuels law only mandates B1 or a 1% blend. hay nako...napag-iiwanan talga.

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    rsnald: at least umuusad. keep the faith bro hehe

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    yung biodiesel ba ng petron ok din??? anu brand ba biodiesel na mganda?

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    Is BioDisel truly safe in ALL DIESEL ENGINES? Does anybody here send an e-mail to ISUZU ro Toyota Corp if they have tried and tested the safetiness of Biodiesel in thier diesel engines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;86566
    OTEP: Please register all the members of DieselClub.Org and give to me so I can arrange special pricing from Senbel. I might be able to swing a substantial discount kina Beng Santos. BTW, aside from the handle, give me their respective names so I can meet with Senbel asap.
    panu po mag join sa DieselClub.Org??

    Thanks!

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    All this talk about trying less than 1% biodiesel blend will be pointless once the law takes effect on May 6. All the diesel to be sold will be legally required to have a fixed initial 1% coco-biodiesel in it so it would no longer be practical to experiment with less than 1% blend thereafter. No one can anymore clamor to change this minimum as the law already fixes it. I would establish a baseline now and then see how a 1% blend later on would benefit me. Then I would progressively try ramping up by 1% until perhaps 5% to see the effects. Actually, one need not wait for May 6 to do this. I read somewhere that the optimum blend is 5% biodiesel blend so I'll experiment on this. Anyway, all the vehicle manufacturers worldwide have certified that any diesel engine is good up to 5%. I think they didn't exactly have coco-biodiesel yet in mind (perhaps they were referring to other more common biodiesels from other vegetable oils) but I suspect that coco-biodiesel would even be beneficial above 5%. Let's see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pervagus View Post
    All this talk about trying less than 1% biodiesel blend will be pointless once the law takes effect on May 6. All the diesel to be sold will be legally required to have a fixed initial 1% coco-biodiesel in it so it would no longer be practical to experiment with less than 1% blend thereafter. No one can anymore clamor to change this minimum as the law already fixes it. I would establish a baseline now and then see how a 1% blend later on would benefit me. Then I would progressively try ramping up by 1% until perhaps 5% to see the effects. Actually, one need not wait for May 6 to do this. I read somewhere that the optimum blend is 5% biodiesel blend so I'll experiment on this. Anyway, all the vehicle manufacturers worldwide have certified that any diesel engine is good up to 5%. I think they didn't exactly have coco-biodiesel yet in mind (perhaps they were referring to other more common biodiesels from other vegetable oils) but I suspect that coco-biodiesel would even be beneficial above 5%. Let's see.
    I am only suggesting 0.5% because CME is UNIQUE. It appears to be the only biodiesel capable of giving 10-15% fuel mileage increase (or fuel savings) even when used at 0.5% and 1%. A quality that will make it an EXCELLENT EXPORT for us.

    Since 5% is 10 times more than 0.5%, it is unlikely 5% will result in 10%x10 or 100% fuel mileage increase. The point is: "an optimum percentage will give best results" and, based on my verifiable tests, the additional fuel savings of 1% vs 0.5% is not worth the extra money.

    The BioFuels Act was passed without firm knowledge of how 0.5%, 1%, 2%, etc. will provide Fuel Savings in long term use (because local chassis dynamometers capable of making these tests are in-operational and no foreign entities seem to have done such tests either.)

    Trying 0.5% now (while we can still do it) simply generates more information that can be compared with 1% , 2%, etc. And if 0.5% or some other value proves to be better, I am sure that info will be taken into consideration in the future.

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    thanks sa mga tip mga brad,,,try ko yun,,planning to go in iloilo by RORO this april 6,,tingnan ko kung maganda nga,,thanks ulet

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    Yahooo!!! bait talaga ni Sir Woodfire! :D :D :D Lufet ng Paje nyo Sir!!! :D

    Another Q..... Just out of curiosity, pwede ba magpa-full tank ng BioDiesel???

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    pwede po sir pajerokid, mahal nga lang. bumili din ako ng bio-diesel nung sat. eb, the xuv's tank was half full, tapos i bought 3 liters of bio-diesel, impressed din ako sa results. ang pinaka-noticeable is mas smooth yung engine both at idle and acceleration, lumakas ng konti yung hatak, and definitely, hindi mausok at high rpms. alam niyo naman ang isuzu, mausok talaga, pero starting at 1000 rpm, konting-konti na lang ang usok, at hindi siya maitim.

    peeps, dont take my word on this one, kasi baka nagkamali lang ako, pero i think nung pauwi ako galing eb, from the fort, to cainta, to qc, i think nagconsume lang ako ng 3 liters, kasi hindi talaga halos gumalaw yung gauge, chineck ko lahat ng variables, medyo hataw pa ako pauwi dahil maluwag c5, average ko siguro from fort to ortigas 100 kmh, ganun talaga eh, kaya bukas magkakarga ulit ako para maconfirm talaga.

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