Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[quan2boy]

Kinda weird that it seems SGI systems are more problem prone than the older Venturi kits. I initially thought that the SGI systems would get around more of the problems of the venturi system. But it seems to be the other way around.

The venturi system seems to be a more robust system if a bit crude way to inject fuel into the engine. Less susceptible to oil contamination. Only drawbacks are the lower overwall power, more frequent air filter maintenance and slightly less fuel mileage.

I agree. What's really good with SGI is that you'll hardly notice that you're running on LPG. Unfortunately to your point, the current systems may not be that perfect yet. I'm sure they'll figure it out later...

I'm not sure about the others, but in my case, maybe once a month or once every 2 months, when I turn off the engine for a short while (e.g. to stop for a snack or buy something), for some strange reason, when I start the engine again and switch to LPG, the engine dies. And no matter how many times I try, the car won't run on LPG. I suspect this could be what Mile2 was saying about stuck up injectors.

Just to share, I was doing an experiment when the price difference between unleaded and LPG was still around P15/liter (right now, the prices of unleaded and LPG are much closer together so I'm using unleaded for now). I'm not sure if it's working or was just a coincidence but during the time I was doing this experiment, I never had problems running on LPG. What I did was that before turning off the engine, I manually switch to gasoline. I don't turn off the engine on LPG. The only downside is that when I start the engine again, I have to manually push the button to switch back to LPG. I don't know kung nagkataon lang but you may want to try if you are experiencing the same problem.

[quan2boy]

Hi Sir
We will gladly service your car in alabang if you need us to. We will also teach you how to clean the injectors/system
Just coordinate with lorna

Thanks Mike. Siguro pag nagpa-PM na lang ako, daan ako dyan. Sa Toyota Shaw naman ako nagpapa-service which is very close to your shop.

Cheers!

[n5110]

Just to share, I was doing an experiment when the price difference between unleaded and LPG was still around P15/liter (right now, the prices of unleaded and LPG are much closer together so I'm using unleaded for now). I'm not sure if it's working or was just a coincidence but during the time I was doing this experiment, I never had problems running on LPG. What I did was that before turning off the engine, I manually switch to gasoline. I don't turn off the engine on LPG. The only downside is that when I start the engine again, I have to manually push the button to switch back to LPG. I don't know kung nagkataon lang but you may want to try if you are experiencing the same problem.

i also use this method before when i was having problems with my lpg system last time coz the engine cannot sustain the rpm at idle. but after they replaced my vaporiser 1st week of march problem was solve at idle, with AC , w/o AC condition. I also observed my lpg mileage improve and more consistent than before, im averaging 9km/li lpg.

[aamd]

Fuel Consumption as of 30 December 2008

Car:.................2004 Mitsubishi Outlander 2.4.........1998 RAV4 2.0
LPG Kit:............SGI Greenfuel..............................CATGAS Open loop
Date (2008):.....June 23 - December 25.....................May 19 - December 25
Km/Liter:..........5.76.............................. .............5.69
Peso/Km:..........5.24................................. ..........5.15
% Loss:............28%.............................. .............19%
Peso Savings:.....P20,928.34........................... . .......P22,720.45
% Savings :.......30.60%.................................... ..34.50%

Fuel Consumption as of 28 March 2009

Car:.................2004 Mitsubishi Outlander 2.4.........1998 RAV4 2.0
LPG Kit:............SGI Greenfuel..............................CATGAS Open loop
Date (2008):.....June 23 - March 28.....................May 19 - March 25
Km/Liter:..........5.81.............................. .............5.60
Peso/Km:..........4.76................................. ..........4.90
% Loss:............26%.............................. .............21%
Peso Savings:.....P25,592.21........................... . .......P24,700.07
% Savings :.......29.30%.................................... ..31.50%


ROI for RAV4 is 21k - Nakakasave na ako ng 3,700.07 pesos
ROI for Outlander is 39k - 13,407.79 pesos pa para makuha ko yung ROI.

[Mile2]

Thanks to GreenFuel team (Lorna and Tholits) for fixing my fuel level indicator, they replaced the multivalve's magnetic fuel level unit and had the system tuned up

Filled up at Cleanfuel Shaw, wow!!! price per liter is now P18.25

[vinj]

What was the problem with your indicator?

My fuel level indicator is pretty funky from time to time. Also, my "low-batt" warning comes on at roughly 300kms wherein i've consumed around 26 to 30L... but i can still run on to around 500kms+ in that state before filling up (and so far i've never run my LPG dry yet). The LED indicator in the car doesnt go down in consistent levels either (the lowest and 3rd level indicator last 50kms or less on me while the 2nd and top levels last 100kms or so...).

[Mile2]

What was the problem with your indicator?

My fuel level indicator is pretty funky from time to time. Also, my "low-batt" warning comes on at roughly 300kms wherein i've consumed around 26 to 30L... but i can still run on to around 500kms+ in that state before filling up (and so far i've never run my LPG dry yet). The LED indicator in the car doesnt go down in consistent levels either (the lowest and 3rd level indicator last 50kms or less on me while the 2nd and top levels last 100kms or so...).

LED indicator is always on "low fuel" (blinking last LED) even on full tank capacity.

[bigMIKE]

What was the problem with your indicator?

My fuel level indicator is pretty funky from time to time. Also, my "low-batt" warning comes on at roughly 300kms wherein i've consumed around 26 to 30L... but i can still run on to around 500kms+ in that state before filling up (and so far i've never run my LPG dry yet). The LED indicator in the car doesnt go down in consistent levels either (the lowest and 3rd level indicator last 50kms or less on me while the 2nd and top levels last 100kms or so...).

if you have time after the Holy Week, you can bring your car and we
can check your car's LED indicator..

thanks

[smdelfin]

Manila Autogas has removed their points system/card. Those who accumulated points should now collect their rewards in Vito Cruz branch. Look for Jeng. Mondays to Fridays only.

[daneklog]

Mr. Mike, i plan to uninstall the SGI kit from Greenfuel since im planning to sell my Adventure. Does the SGI kit works fine with Altis or Sentra?

Any feedback from Altis or Sentra owner with SGI kit? Please share the ups and downs of an SGI kit installed.

Thanks in advance.

[ghosthunter]

Mr. Mike, i plan to uninstall the SGI kit from Greenfuel since im planning to sell my Adventure. Does the SGI kit works fine with Altis or Sentra?

Any feedback from Altis or Sentra owner with SGI kit? Please share the ups and downs of an SGI kit installed.

Thanks in advance.

Sentra N16? ... My brother has one N16 Sentra 1.3L A/T with greenfuel's SGI system ... no troubles.

[dragonmate]

Finally, Total Alabang slashed its prices. Actually, it's more of a loyalty discount promo. They give you a free sticker (which I put inside my gas filler) and you're entitled to a P1.50 per liter discount on all fuel everytime. Their autogas regular price now is P18.90, so it turns out to be P17.40 only. :2thumbsup:

[bigMIKE]

hi sir,
if you really plan to install your sgi from the adventure to an altis or sentra
it would work fine....
we would gladly assist you in checking the car you plan to purchase
just give us a call and advise lorna.
thanks

Mr. Mike, i plan to uninstall the SGI kit from Greenfuel since im planning to sell my Adventure. Does the SGI kit works fine with Altis or Sentra?

Any feedback from Altis or Sentra owner with SGI kit? Please share the ups and downs of an SGI kit installed.

Thanks in advance.

[glennjv]

dragonmate... how do i get the discount?
I used to refuel all the time sa total alabang... kaso nga napikon na ko kasi they're are always late to adjust prices and minsan ang mahal nila.
(been refueling at Seaoil shaw for months now because of this.)

hey BigMike....do you sell those filling cover cap? (yung black cover)... i lost mine

[n5110]

dragonmate... how do i get the discount?
I used to refuel all the time sa total alabang... kaso nga napikon na ko kasi they're are always late to adjust prices and minsan ang mahal nila.
(been refueling at Seaoil shaw for months now because of this.)

hey BigMike....do you sell those filling cover cap? (yung black cover)... i lost mine

boss sabihin mo lang regular ka napapa karga sa kanila and they will give you a sticker with the size of LTO registraton sticker na kasing laki nung nasa plate number. yung sa akin dun ko mismo nilagay sa plate number saktong sakto kasi

ngayon everytime ako mag refill sa total sinasabi ko lagi na may sticker ako sa likod, alam na nila ang gagawin. buti na lang naisip ng total ito kaya yung presyo nila ok na rin.

cheers!

[ghosthunter]

boss sabihin mo lang regular ka napapa karga sa kanila and they will give you a sticker with the size of LTO registraton sticker na kasing laki nung nasa plate number. yung sa akin dun ko mismo nilagay sa plate number saktong sakto kasi

ngayon everytime ako mag refill sa total sinasabi ko lagi na may sticker ako sa likod, alam na nila ang gagawin. buti na lang naisip ng total ito kaya yung presyo nila ok na rin.

cheers!

Interesting, I wonder if that applies to all TOTAL AutoLPG stations?

[n5110]

mukang hinde. i tried once refilling at total sucat road. they dont have such thing.

[niky]

mukang hinde. i tried once refilling at total sucat road. they dont have such thing.

I got my sticker at Total Alabang. Applied discount to both LPG and gasoline... Full tank for just 400 bucks... plus change? Schweeeeet.

[bigMIKE]

hi,

regarding your filling cap, i will ask lorna to call and coordinate that
matter to you.....

Thanks.

quote=glennjv;1237491]dragonmate... how do i get the discount?
I used to refuel all the time sa total alabang... kaso nga napikon na ko kasi they're are always late to adjust prices and minsan ang mahal nila.
(been refueling at Seaoil shaw for months now because of this.)

hey BigMike....do you sell those filling cover cap? (yung black cover)... i lost mine[/quote]

[aamd]

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