Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[carbomb]

ako di ako masyadong nagpapaniwala sa mga lpg conversion na yan. hindi ka rin makakatipid kc ang mahal mahal ng conversion nito tapos tumataas din ang contract price ng lpg sa world market kaya pati dito nag sisi taasan na rin mga lpg, so pano ka pa makakatipid nyan?

[ghosthunter]

ako di ako masyadong nagpapaniwala sa mga lpg conversion na yan. hindi ka rin makakatipid kc ang mahal mahal ng conversion nito tapos tumataas din ang contract price ng lpg sa world market kaya pati dito nag sisi taasan na rin mga lpg, so pano ka pa makakatipid nyan?

LPG is still 40% cheaper than gasoline. The more often your use your LPG fueled vehicle, the faster you get back your investment.

So if you do 200km a week, then you could be looking at one year. If you drive less (say, around 100km a week, then it would take longer).

Converting your vehicle to run on LPG still saves you money in the medium to long term.

Now if you have some invention to make your existing vehicle go 40% further on the same amount of gasoline and costs much less than P30K, then you might have a good alternative.

If you don't believe in the cost savings of using auto-LPG, then its your loss. Think why thousands of taxi cabs are now running LPG.

[tebs]

not only does it save you on gas money, but more importantly, it also saves the environment. it burns cleaner than regular gasoline. less CO, NOx, particulate matters, etc.

i believe that's the best reason to convert--> save the environment

[carbomb]

LPG is still 40% cheaper than gasoline. The more often your use your LPG fueled vehicle, the faster you get back your investment.

If you don't believe in the cost savings of using auto-LPG, then its your loss. Think why thousands of taxi cabs are now running LPG.

so kailangan ko pa palang mag aksaya sa pag gamit ng lpg para lang maramdaman kong nakatipid ako? lpg is an alternative solution for the skyrocketing prices of gasolines. but the real question is until when? so sabi mo nga, kailangan ko ngang gamitin more often yung vehicle just to feel that i am saving. pagtitipid ba yun? well, kung marami kang pera, yes nakakatipid ka but if u r just an ordinary worker earning at least enough for your family, that thing you are saying is not saving. para mo ring sinabing para makatipid ka sa pag bili mo ng donut eh kailangang mag dunkin ka na lang at wag nang mag krispy cream kc sa dunkin eh 10 petot lang, sa krispy cream eh 30 petot so para maramdaman mo yung savings mo, bumili ka na lang ng 3 boxes of dunkin kesa bumili ng one box ng krispy cream para makatipid ka kung ang isang tao ay talagang nagtitipid, di na lang cya bibili ng donut kundi ma mamalenke na lang cya at bibili na lang ng pang araw araw na ulam nila sa pang araw araw. so lets go back with the gasoline thing. so if u want to earn and save more fuel, the permanent solution is to save gas more often by allowing yourself to try public trasport everyday and just use your vehicle kapag kasama mo na lang family mo. just my opinion, nothing personal...really

[ghosthunter]

so kailangan ko pa palang mag aksaya sa pag gamit ng lpg para lang maramdaman kong nakatipid ako?

I didn't say drive around the city aimlessly and purposelessly. I said if you use your vehicle more often, you can realize the cost savings faster. So that means if you have two vehicles, simply using the LPG fueled vehicle over the gasoline vehicle will save you a few pesos ever time you fuel up.

lpg is an alternative solution for the skyrocketing prices of gasolines. but the real question is until when?

Until when you ask? Until the next break through in technology that can make a car even more economical to fuel up with whatever substance. Currently, even hybrid cars are NOT the answer (at least for us). It's because the purchase price of the cheapest available car (Prius) will still require eight or more years to recover the cost of the vehicle against savings in operating costs.

A recent car comparison (in another web-forum) where the Toyota Prius was compared to the Ford Focus turbo diesel, the cars fared about the same in terms of fuel costs. This was done in Metro Manila and normal traffic conditions we have during the week day.

so sabi mo nga, kailangan ko ngang gamitin more often yung vehicle just to feel that i am saving. pagtitipid ba yun?

well, here's my point. If you only drive less than 100km in an average week (like 30 to 70 km a week), it would NOT be economically feasible to convert to LPG since the cost recovery would take more than 3 years. My target would be a maximum of two years to make it feasible to convert a private vehicle to run on LPG.

well, kung marami kang pera, yes nakakatipid ka but if u r just an ordinary worker earning at least enough for your family, that thing you are saying is not saving.

If you can save more than P30,000 a year in fuel cost, why not? You don't have to be rich to realize that every peso saved is like a peso earned, right?

para mo ring sinabing para makatipid ka sa pag bili mo ng donut eh kailangang mag dunkin ka na lang at wag nang mag krispy cream kc sa dunkin eh 10 petot lang, sa krispy cream eh 30 petot so para maramdaman mo yung savings mo, bumili ka na lang ng 3 boxes of dunkin kesa bumili ng one box ng krispy cream para makatipid ka

Your donut analogy is faulty. If I have to buy a dozen donuts, then buying from dunkin donuts will only cost me P120 while if I buy from krispy creme it will cost me P360. So buying from dunkin will save me P240 per transaction.

If I had the need for more donuts, then buying more boxes from dunkin would save me even more. I don't need to buy 5 boxes to see the cost saving. Even buying a SINGLE donut would already save me a few pesos.

so lets go back with the gasoline thing. so if u want to earn and save more fuel, the permanent solution is to save gas more often by allowing yourself to try public trasport everyday and just use your vehicle kapag kasama mo na lang family mo. just my opinion, nothing personal...really

For my personal and business requirements, public transportation is not a viable answer. For some people it is but not for me. I am not forcing you to convert your vehicle to LPG. We all are complaining about the high cost of gasoline. But there are alternatives if we would just take that first step towards it even if those alternatives are not the same for you and me.

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[carbomb]

Until when you ask? Until the next break through in technology that can make a car even more economical to fuel up with whatever substance. Currently, even hybrid cars are NOT the answer (at least for us). It's because the purchase price of the cheapest available car (Prius) will still require eight or more years to recover the cost of the vehicle against savings in operating costs. If you can save more than P30,000 a year in fuel cost, why not? You don't have to be rich to realize that every peso saved is like a peso earned, right?

break through? r u trying to say that it will take more years for the lpg to be the dominant fuel efficiency/savings in our country? i think sooner or later, the prices of gasoline shall be the same as lpg. di mo ba ina anticipate na pwedeng mangyari yun mr. ghosthunter? what if mangyari yun in less than a year? mababawi mo pa ba yung convertion expenses mo? just think of it. my only comment earlier is wala talaga akong kati-katiwala sa mga lpg convertion which means, i alone and that is on my personal opinion only.

[ghosthunter]

break through? r u trying to say that it will take more years for the lpg to be the dominant fuel efficiency/savings in our country?

I am not saying the LPG will overtake gasoline as the fuel of choice for vehicles. I just mean that there will be MORE OPTIONS for motorist to choose from. And the power of choice is often overlooked by people.

i think sooner or later, the prices of gasoline shall be the same as lpg. di mo ba ina anticipate na pwedeng mangyari yun mr. ghosthunter?

I have thought of it long before you have considered it. But I have made an assumption. LPG is a price sensitive commodity which places some restrictions on the industry from raising the price too much. And even if gasoline and LPG prices would be the same one day, then that's the day I would remove the LPG system from my car. But like the price difference of diesel and gasoline, I think there would always be a sizable price gap between gasoline and LPG.

what if mangyari yun in less than a year? mababawi mo pa ba yung convertion expenses mo? just think of it.

Well, since I already converted my car and have recovered my installation costs, I am just happy driving along with the thought that I am saving money on my fuel bills.

Other people who want to stay safe by letting others be the "guinea pig" go on complaining on this and that reasons and when the "investment" does prove itself correct, they go on blaming others why they didn't encourage him to jump into it earlier.

How am I so assured that converting to LPG will save money? Simple, I did a feasibility study on the cost of the LPG conversion, costs of operation and on the past performance of LPG vs gasoline prices. Having that done, I made a simple short term projection of LPG/gasoline price difference vs cost recovery and gave myself a target, if recovery time goes down to 12 months or less, then I would deem it acceptable and go for conversion. It's very similar to doing a project study for any business venture, risk and all.

Of course some people are so "allergic" to taking risks and need to be 101% assured of being a safe decision that they simply end up not doing anything at all but gripe about this and that.

[boydapa]

basta para sa akin nagpaconvert ako para hindi sumakit yun ulo ko kakaisip everytime na pupunta ako sa gas station eh halos mag 45 or 50 na ang gas. im happy that for more than a year hindi ako nagmomonitor kng magkano gas basta gamit lng ng gamit. yun lang no need for me to compute sulit na yun hindi sumakit ulo ko

[smdelfin]

Meron na ba pong nagpa-convert ng Vanette?
Thanks!

[webmiester]

so kailangan ko pa palang mag aksaya sa pag gamit ng lpg para lang maramdaman kong nakatipid ako? lpg is an alternative solution for the skyrocketing prices of gasolines. but the real question is until when? so sabi mo nga, kailangan ko ngang gamitin more often yung vehicle just to feel that i am saving. pagtitipid ba yun? well, kung marami kang pera, yes nakakatipid ka but if u r just an ordinary worker earning at least enough for your family, that thing you are saying is not saving. para mo ring sinabing para makatipid ka sa pag bili mo ng donut eh kailangang mag dunkin ka na lang at wag nang mag krispy cream kc sa dunkin eh 10 petot lang, sa krispy cream eh 30 petot so para maramdaman mo yung savings mo, bumili ka na lang ng 3 boxes of dunkin kesa bumili ng one box ng krispy cream para makatipid ka kung ang isang tao ay talagang nagtitipid, di na lang cya bibili ng donut kundi ma mamalenke na lang cya at bibili na lang ng pang araw araw na ulam nila sa pang araw araw. so lets go back with the gasoline thing. so if u want to earn and save more fuel, the permanent solution is to save gas more often by allowing yourself to try public trasport everyday and just use your vehicle kapag kasama mo na lang family mo. just my opinion, nothing personal...really

Actually yes, you'll feel the savings of purchasing Dunkin Donuts after you've purchased 3 boxes vs 1 box of Krispy Kreme. However, you dont have to buy 3 boxes all at the same time. If you purchase 1 box a week, then you'll feel the savings after 3 weeks.

Unlike donuts though which arent really a life necessity, fuels are often a way of life for many of us. We need to consume a certain fuel to go to where we work,to go home, to go shopping, etc. LPG being a cheaper fuel will allow us to do this at a lower cost.

You've actually been advocating the use of LPG, you just dont know it. By using public transportation, you are actually supporting the use of cheaper fuels, like LPG. Most taxis use LPG while jeepneys and buses use diesel, all of which are cheaper than gasoline. The LRT uses electricity derived from power plants using bunker, or coal fuel or kinetic energy from hydro or geothermal sources (we dont use nuclear yet in the philippines), all of which are also cheaper than gasoline. Cheaper fuels, like LPG, keep our public transportation systems running. And thanks to LPG, you still have taxis to ride on when you decide to use public transport of this kind. Soon, even jeepneys and buses will have LPG or CNG systems inistalled.

Until when will LPG be cheaper than gasoline? Maybe forever. Just like Diesel, whose prices have continually gone up, it still remains to be cheaper than gasoline. LPG's price will also go up, but its price might not ever be like that of gasoline (parang diesel). It has become a socially relevant fuel (like diesel).

There are only 4 things which are sure in life:

Change, Inflation, death, and God's love for you.

Kaya, if the solution you are looking for is one whose price never changes, then you're right about LPG. It isnt the solution you seek. My best wishes and hopes that you do find something like it.