Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[chuaed]

i think its the car and its engine na talaga ang problem. The Optra is a gas guzzler talaga, changing to LPG doesn't change the fact that the engine dynamics are not in sync with the car. The car being a gas guzzler from the start doesn't pertain that you will get better mileage if you switch to LPG because your using the same engine. It will only mean that you are spending less money on the gas as compared to before but that wont change the fact that the Optra is still a gas guzzler.

yes i agree... i just wanted to share my experience in how the tune my car... ofcourse i would still like to try to find a way to minimize my fuel consumption...

[chuaed]

So you mean lalong lumakas pa sa gas consumption ang kotse mo? im planning to go there na papakabit na ako and do they install on saturdays??

hindi naman po lumakas, pero gusto ko rin makahanap ng paraan na baka sakali magawan ng paraan na makatipid pa kahit kaunti ang kunsumo sa gas...

bukas sila sa saturday, maganda maaga ka pumunta para maasikaso nila mabuti kotse mo...

tapos kwento mo rin iyun mga karanasan mo later...

[ghosthunter]

sure thing, where is Auto-Xer located? thank you very much...

You can contact Auto_xer at kotse.com since he frequents that board more than this one. Or you can email him auto_xer*yahoo.com

You can also visit his shop Fusion R located along E.Rod Sr near corner to T.Morato in QC.

[theveed]

Wondering lang, is it safe to assume na parehas lang ang ratio ng stoich ng LPG vs Gas? 14:1 din? If not, pano yung mga settings ng ECU? With a carbed car or a non-EFI car I don't see why LPG conversion can't be done, with later model cars, pano yun?

[topgun]

yes i agree... i just wanted to share my experience in how the tune my car... ofcourse i would still like to try to find a way to minimize my fuel consumption...

dear ed chua:

have u tried installing those free flow k & n air chargers they are less constricting and give you more power as your engine can suck in more air

[ghosthunter]

Wondering lang, is it safe to assume na parehas lang ang ratio ng stoich ng LPG vs Gas? 14:1 din? If not, pano yung mga settings ng ECU? With a carbed car or a non-EFI car I don't see why LPG conversion can't be done, with later model cars, pano yun?

Given these conversion kits are available in other countries, I assumed they already have figured it out.

[ghosthunter]

I wonder why there is not LPG conversion kit for diesel engines since I have seen referense to such in other countries...

http://www.ilovesponge.com/spongecars/diesel/diesel.htm
http://www.autogasonestop.com/diesel.htm
http://www.greenfuel.org.uk/faqs/
http://www.leeric.lsu.edu/bgbb/7/ecep/diesel/i/i.htm
http://www.jaymic.com/lpgblackcabs/technology.asp

[chuaed]

You can contact Auto_xer at kotse.com since he frequents that board more than this one. Or you can email him auto_xer*yahoo.com

You can also visit his shop Fusion R located along E.Rod Sr near corner to T.Morato in QC.

yeah, i've been there before a month ago i think, purchased a pivot raizin volt stabilizer color blue very expensive... (unfortunately for me i think it didn't work)... i'd already asked them if they have air/fuel mixture gauge... wala daw sila...

i didn't notice that they have device or diagnostic tool for tuning the engine of the car...

[putalittlemore]

I wonder why there is not LPG conversion kit for diesel engines since I have seen referense to such in other countries...

http://www.ilovesponge.com/spongecars/diesel/diesel.htm
http://www.autogasonestop.com/diesel.htm
http://www.greenfuel.org.uk/faqs/
http://www.leeric.lsu.edu/bgbb/7/ecep/diesel/i/i.htm
http://www.jaymic.com/lpgblackcabs/technology.asp

same here...

[jvm13]

plus...
Petron Makati Avenue
Petron Marcos Highway
Petron Fairview
Petron Shaw
Petron NAIA Rd., Pasay
Manila Autogas Araneta ave
Manila Autogas Taft Avenue

saan ung manila autogas sa taft? near where?

[jvm13]

saan kayo nagpa convert? i'm considering converting my car but i just want to know which company does the conversion best..it's best to hear from those who've already converted their cars..thanks

[nugundam93]

i've heard from janus of protegetech, pati raw catgas, they do conversions, 25K sabi niya.

[chuaed]

saan ung manila autogas sa taft? near where?

hindi ko po alam eh, hinigi ko lang ng list na may available na filling station ng lpg sa naiadss... pasyensya na po... dito lang ako around pasig, marikina, qc and cainta lang eh... very seldom ako sa manila...

[ghosthunter]

i'd already asked them if they have air/fuel mixture gauge... wala daw sila...

i didn't notice that they have device or diagnostic tool for tuning the engine of the car...

well, maybe they didn't have one for sale... but maybe they have one you can use to tune your engine.

[userfriendly]

i've heard from janus of protegetech, pati raw catgas, they do conversions, 25K sabi niya.

Went to Cat gas sa Visayas Ave. The one beside Caltex, kinausap ko at ang sabi nila na yung gamit nila ay galing NAIADSS din. Parang branch kung baga. Cat gas is also known as Autogas Manila.

Price of conversions is based on engine displacement and if EFI or carb. EFI is more expensive. I don't have a price list but I think the 25K is for a 1.6 carb engine.

[RafRaf]

My cousin had his honda civic converted. 3 years na, wala naman problema. Safe na safe. Sa renewal ng registration no need for smoke emissions testing. Tahimik pa. Same power observed with non-converted.

[theveed]

Given these conversion kits are available in other countries, I assumed they already have figured it out.

I'm sure they have, but how?

Parang tipid siguro (bottom line in peso) kung sinalpakan mo ng LPG system ang Pride, Charade etc...

Then again, how long (in savings) will it take before you recoup your 25-30K back from the conversion?

[ghosthunter]

I'm sure they have, but how?

Parang tipid siguro (bottom line in peso) kung sinalpakan mo ng LPG system ang Pride, Charade etc...

Then again, how long (in savings) will it take before you recoup your 25-30K back from the conversion?

it really depends on how much you use your vehicle. In my car, I would probably get the ROI in 7 to 8 months. In a smaller engined car, it would take a fair bit longer, like 30% more time.

[theveed]

bilis lang pala... Hmmm...

Let me read through the thread before I ask another question hehe... thanks GH.

[ghosthunter]

bilis lang pala... Hmmm...

Let me read through the thread before I ask another question hehe... thanks GH.

Simple computation lang naman eh.

Assuming you get the same fuel milage with LPG as with gasoline. So the difference in fuel price will be you savings factor.

so if the difference in fuel price is P20/L ... and multiplying that to the number of Liters of fuel you use in a month. Assuming you are getting the standard EFI kit costing P28,000... divide that number with the savings per month. That would be your ROI time.