Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[filchaser]

thanks a lot Sir, will bring my car there any day from now. Had already talked with Sharon about the price. God bless you sir

I agree w/ webmeister. I am very happy with my experience with Green Autogas. In fact, we had our 6 cylinder gas guzzling Toyota Crown converted as well. Now, we use it often. Their LPG price is also very competitive. Too bad Mindanao Ave is a bit out of my way.

[filchaser]

Filled up last night at Orbit gas (Aurora Blvdcorner Broadway) diagonally across Broadway Centrum Php25.5/liter
Fill up comes with free bottled water and lugaw.
Anyway I think if they take off the freebies there is still room to lower price by about Php20-Php30 per fill up.

Based on DOE's previous announcement we should see auto-lpg hitting Php21/ltr.

Yes. It's better if they cut off all the frills and pass on the best price to consumers. (Cebu Pacific model)

[n5110]

Hi guys,

Ive had my LPG kit for a year na with 60L tank capacity. Usually, I am only able to refill somewhere about 52L of LPG and the fuel level indicator at the back of the tank indicates 80% full (the 20% being air). Last night though, I was surprised to be able to fill it with 60L of LPG and the indicator showing that it was filled to the top of the scale!

I was quite surprised with this. Is there any problem or danger with this?

ticking time bomb waiting to explode. kanino ba dapat i forward ang ganitong irregularities??

[bigMIKE]

Yehey!

Mike, I got your SGI for my Camry and sometimes pag-start ko (not really from cold start but pag nag-park ako sandali mga 1 to 2 hours) after running on gasoline for a couple of minutes, pag switch sa LPG (either manually or auto-switch at 2500 rpm), the engine stalls. When this happens, I will normally retry for 2 to 3 times pero ganun pa rin. So, I just run on gasoline until I reach home. But the next morning, ok na naman. Any ideas? Air filter related kaya yun?

Call me or better yet bring car over so we can check if it is your filter. Try cleaning it first and let me know what happens

[samsung]

I agree w/ webmeister. I am very happy with my experience with Green Autogas. In fact, we had our 6 cylinder gas guzzling Toyota Crown converted as well. Now, we use it often. Their LPG price is also very competitive. Too bad Mindanao Ave is a bit out of my way.

hi filchaser, i also have a Toyota crown converted with lpg by vogas (econogas) my fc is only 5.5. m/t 2.0l. how about yours?

split system ko. 100% fuel 0 to 1000 rpm
1000 up to 3000rpm am using 100% lpg
3000 to 6000rpm am using 50% lpg and 50% fuel

[straker]

Hello BigMike. I'm told that you have an APV converted. Can you upload pics in your Greenfuel website?

[userfriendly]

hi filchaser, i also have a Toyota crown converted with lpg by vogas (econogas) my fc is only 5.5. m/t 2.0l. how about yours?

split system ko. 100% fuel 0 to 1000 rpm
1000 up to 3000rpm am using 100% lpg
3000 to 6000rpm am using 50% lpg and 50% fuel

so you use gas when idling?

[Mus@nG]

mga tsikteers. . .have u heard of AMBIENT installr ng Tartarini kits? any feedback dito? ok ba sila? ok ba after sales nila?TIA

[n5110]

hi filchaser, i also have a Toyota crown converted with lpg by vogas (econogas) my fc is only 5.5. m/t 2.0l. how about yours?

split system ko. 100% fuel 0 to 1000 rpm
1000 up to 3000rpm am using 100% lpg
3000 to 6000rpm am using 50% lpg and 50% fuel

automatic switching ba yan boss?

[samsung]

so you use gas when idling?

yes userfriendly, for the moment am using 100% gas pag idling ako to lubricate my engine.

please correct me if am wrong mga kapatid.

[samsung]

automatic switching ba yan boss?

yes n5110, vogas got its own computer box, it switch automatic depend on wat setting i want. split gas or lpg puwede. mixture of both fuel.

[straker]

yes n5110, vogas got its own computer box, it switch automatic depend on wat setting i want. split gas or lpg puwede. mixture of both fuel.

How much is the conversion job? Hindi ka ba na-ilang fueling both gas & lpg in the same station?

Am I correct that the system will switch to gas if the lpg side goes empty?

[ghosthunter]

How much is the conversion job? Hindi ka ba na-ilang fueling both gas & lpg in the same station?

Am I correct that the system will switch to gas if the lpg side goes empty?

Depending on the vehicle, the Vogas system does answer some things that 100% LPG systems can't. This includes some rough running conditions with some engine models. It also answers the concern of other people of valve lubrication (although with most cars already designed to run on unloaded gasoline, does it really make a big difference?).

[MFB]

I was planning to use LPG for my subaru forester turbo. I inquired at ambient and have yet to get a reply up to now. Stargas declined already as their system will not work on my vehicle. Subaru UK does not recommend fitting it on the forester turbo 09 but fits n/a versions. Ano kaya reason? May mga makukulit sa Australia, ok naman daw. But bottom line is, they used flash lube on thier engines to lubricate and prevent premature wear.

Bakit wala nag install ng flash lube locally? My local distributor but have yet to see them tie up with the lpg installers. No such this as hardened valves di ba. Mag wear and tear yan with LPG use faster than using gasoline.

[ghosthunter]

I was planning to use LPG for my subaru forester turbo. I inquired at ambient and have yet to get a reply up to now. Stargas declined already as their system will not work on my vehicle. Subaru UK does not recommend fitting it on the forester turbo 09 but fits n/a versions. Ano kaya reason? May mga makukulit sa Australia, ok naman daw. But bottom line is, they used flash lube on thier engines to lubricate and prevent premature wear.

Bakit wala nag install ng flash lube locally? My local distributor but have yet to see them tie up with the lpg installers. No such this as hardened valves di ba. Mag wear and tear yan with LPG use faster than using gasoline.

From what I know, none of the local auto-lpg conversion shops has converted a factory turbocharged engine. It is theoretically the same as a normally aspirated engine but it seems no one has the hands on experience of doing one.

As for hardened valves, actually there is such a thing. If you are running on unleaded gasoline, your engine has hardened valves and valve seats already.

Vogas might have the solution for you with their LPG/gasoline part-time system.

[samsung]

How much is the conversion job? Hindi ka ba na-ilang fueling both gas & lpg in the same station?

Am I correct that the system will switch to gas if the lpg side goes empty?

straker, my conversion is at 62,000, 6cylinder kasi crown ko with 72liters donut tank.

i usually fill up my gas ones a month. every week kasi ako nga fill up ng lpg. sometimes i forgot to check my gas gauge empty na pala.

[Redman7]

Hi guys,

Ive had my LPG kit for a year na with 60L tank capacity. Usually, I am only able to refill somewhere about 52L of LPG and the fuel level indicator at the back of the tank indicates 80% full (the 20% being air). Last night though, I was surprised to be able to fill it with 60L of LPG and the indicator showing that it was filled to the top of the scale!

I was quite surprised with this. Is there any problem or danger with this?

Hello,

I had a similar experience sa Petron Sucat naman....
one time i filled up.....38Liters na pumping pa din sya...parang energizer...keeps on going...
(natakot ako baka mag-over pressure....e sumabog)
so i ask the gasoline boy to manually stop the filling because
my tank is only 40L; and usually gets filled between 32-34liters lang.....

I gauged my mileage for that fill....sadly same mileage on my regular route... parang nag pa karga lang din ako ng 32Liters....

Ano yun, did i pay extra for the pressure or may hangin ba sya or what???....

[niky]

The problem why nobody wants to do the Forester, MFB, is that the current state of injectors for LPG kits aren't as good as the best gasoline injectors.

Your car might push the limits of the duty cycle of the LPG kit injectors and may require an auxiliary bank of injectors to compensate... something which most shops cannot tune or program.

In this case, the VOGAS system may work for you... they can program the kit so that when your car comes on boost, a percentage of gas is thrown into the mix, to give safer operation.

Otherwise, you can try getting the Greenfuel kit from Speedlab, and see if they can tune around the problem by fiddling with the overboost settings of the LPG kit, reprogramming a larger kit (for 3 liter or V8 engines) to run with your car, or tuning two kits to run in tandem on the car.

[samsung]

How much is the conversion job? Hindi ka ba na-ilang fueling both gas & lpg in the same station?

Am I correct that the system will switch to gas if the lpg side goes empty?

straker, my conversion is at 62,000, 6cylinder kasi crown ko with 72liters donut tank.

i usually fill up my gas ones a month. every week kasi ako nga fill up ng lpg. sometimes i forgot to check my gas gauge empty na pala.

[n5110]

Hello guys,
need help. i notice today i have a lpg leak sa engine bay, the leak is coming from the solenoid (tama ba?) the thing with 2 tubings and a grounding wire on the top. after i switch off the engine and open the hood i saw, hear and smell the lpg coming out at the bottom part not from the 2 tube fittings?

upon checking i saw a nut (like a 10mm in size) i tried to call greenfuel but was able to talk to Lorna only. can i just tighten the nut a bit to seal the leak? at the moment im not using my lpg. inputs is highly appreciated. Thanks a lot.