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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by SiRbossR View Post
    *TS:

    Crosswind nalang. mas okae yun. more reliable.

    Nakita ko na din ung Grand Starex na colorum. haha
    Meron din mga GL Grandia na colorum hahaha. Kulay black pa

    Ang nakikita ko lang na pwede:
    Isuzu Crosswind
    Mitsubishi Adventure
    Nissan Urvan
    Mitsubishi L300 FB Dual A/C or Versa Van

    Wag ka kukuha ng Hiace kasi CRDi ang engine nun. Toyota pa. Sasakit lang ulo mo kasi laspagan ang gamit diyan.

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    Meron din mga GL Grandia na colorum hahaha. Kulay black pa
    Yan ang hindi mahuhuli.

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    SIR ang recommend ko eh mag mb140 kayo... bigger cya sa mb100... matibay ang mb... maluwag na maluwag... mas malapad cya sa urvan ng 11inches... mas mataas din ang ceiling... mas mahaba mas malaki leg room... MURA PA ANG PARTS... kung pamasada malaking bagay ang malaki ang capacity... (17pasengers mb140) ang isang byahe mo para ka nang nakadalawang byahe... ANG MGA UPUAN PO Ng mb class A... sofa type or uratex type... hindi po naluluma, unlike other van na napipipe... tapos po yung loob ng mb maganda talaga compare mo sa kahit anong van.. maliban sa super grandia.. mura pa at matibay ang mga parts... economical din... mas matipid sa urvan... mas malakas sa HIACE NA D4D.. pag dating sa engine.... build to last a lifetime po ang engine ng mb... hindi din umuusok kahit floorred pa ang tapak mo sa gas pedal... chain type pa ang engine... sa a.c. naman centralized ang a.c. ng mb.. need mo lang pa dual condenser.. ang compressor eh 17C good for 3 evaporators... then pagdating sa bangaan australia crash test ratings sa mb is highest at 5! ang urvan, grace, at L3 is lowest at 1.. ang downside lang ng mb eh... yung tranny maingay po talaga... at ang fan belt... mahirap magpalit at serpintine type isa lang ang fan belt.. parang timing belt ang fan belt ng mb... at pag nagpalinis kayo ng a.c. mas mahal po kasi need pa ibaba ang rear ceiling at tangalin ang dashboard.. meron pang forum dito regarding mb100 po... from b.new parts to surplus parts... pati mga gagawa at advice kung ano ang sira or problema at mga gagawin madami po dun... its korean made but daimler benz technology... its tranny is similiar to a mid engine mb cars... its like the new mb van sprinter... same chassis platform.. and made in india... but mercedez still technology... dont forget its still a mercedez benz... lemon daw sabi ng iba... thats a misconcepcion... kahit bmw pa yan kahit anonng sasakyan nasisira yan, kahit nga bago nasisira... kahit nga bakal napupudpod eh..... nasa gumagamit at nagaalaga lang ang bottom line...
    Pards, sigurado ka ba sa lahat ng pinagsasasabi mo?

    Lalo na sa mas malakas humatak than HiAce D-4D?

    Tsaka sa crash test ratings, pare-pareho lang yan flat nose van, pag nabangga ka ng malakas, crumple zone ang legs ng driver! At siguradong baldado ang driver. hahaha

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    Pards, sigurado ka ba sa lahat ng pinagsasasabi mo?

    Lalo na sa mas malakas humatak than HiAce D-4D?

    Tsaka sa crash test ratings, pare-pareho lang yan flat nose van, pag nabangga ka ng malakas, crumple zone ang legs ng driver! At siguradong baldado ang driver. hahaha
    sir ang mb tubular ang frame... its like the t3... if sisilipin mo ilalim ng mb makikita mo may malaking tubo sa harap hanggang likod and its not like the other vans... na ang engine nasa ilalim ng upuan... ang engine ng mb eh nasa harap sa may area ng dashboard thats why the mb's dashboard is unnaturally big... yung crash test sir actually real car to car crash accident yung pinagbasihan ng australian govt...
    pag dating sa hatak mas malakas ang d4d sa hatakan... ang ibig sabihin ko po eh mas matipid cya sa urvan... pero mas malakas ang fc nya sa d4d.... pero pag dating sa rekta ewan ko lang kung ano ang mas matulin... matulin din kasi talaga sa rektahan ang mb van... lalo na yung highspeed nya at 5 cylinder po yun na 2.9... engine is the same as the mb300D 5 cylinder model.. also a rebadge catterpillar engine... may crash test yun sa youtube ssyanyong istana... a rebadge mb100 van.. doing 44kph....

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    #25
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    matulin din kasi talaga sa rektahan ang mb van.
    Uhm... I remember the MB100 screaming it's engine to the high heavens. Red line, 5th gear at 135kph.

    It was a good van design in terms of space maximization and comfort (still one of the best for me) but reliability is very iffy after a while. Parts were affordable and we maintained ours well enough but after three years, it would always have a problem or repair needed after any long trip up north.

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    #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Sir Andrei79 are you the same person at MCP? hehe

    The Grace is just like the L300 versa van of Mitsu so engine aintenance and parts won't be a problem. It depends upon your budget kasi what would be best for you? But Hyundai Grace is fine if that fits your budget. Nissan Urvan I would also recommend.
    sir si andrei79 nga po ito ng MCP hehehe nagreresearch ksi ako ng new biznes na pasukin ko balak ko ksi mag negosyo ng UV dto sa bulacan member karin pla dto sir RY TOWER hehehe ayos may mapagtatanungan nako.

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Ang mahal naman ng Isuzu i-Van eh. Not to mention that its unrefined too. 2008 lang ang pwede? Akala ko fifteen years ang service life ng mga express service.

    *TSL Kung city driving, best bet is the 21 seater Urvan, napakadaming nahahakot in one go. But then kapos sa budget... Siguro kung may mahanap ka na Hyundai Grace which is still in good condition, ayun... OK naman ang Grace. Its basically a rebadged and improved long wheelbase Delica. Very dependable and spare parts are cheap. How much is your budget, by the way? Baka may mahanap tayong iba. Kung kaya pa ng budget, siguro magugustuhan mo ang Korea surplus Starex Jumbo. Kapag nakitang Starex siguradong lahat yan magpapahatid sayo!
    sir nasa 200-250k lng po ang budget ko sguro hanggang 300k kasama na ang Franchisa niya sana po makakuha ako sabi po nila pareho lang ng makina ang Grace at Mitsubishi L300 totoo po yun?

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    Uhm... I remember the MB100 screaming it's engine to the high heavens. Red line, 5th gear at 135kph.

    It was a good van design in terms of space maximization and comfort (still one of the best for me) but reliability is very iffy after a while. Parts were affordable and we maintained ours well enough but after three years, it would always have a problem or repair needed after any long trip up north.
    sir how old is your mbvan at that time? is it the local version? marami kasing misconception talaga dun sa van na yun... marami din pagkakamali ang mga gumagawa kaya after awhile pag pinagawa mo may nasira pala yung gumawa or mali ang pagkakagawa kaya na sisira ulit... or nagpapalit ng mga japan na parts like bearing, etc.... hindi talaga tumatagal ang mga japan parts sa mb...

    pag dating naman sa 135kph.. talagang maugong ang engine... 5 CYLINDER EH.. BAKA malamang sir sliding clutch ka na kung ganun... check mo youtube meron dun 155kph near redline.... i think its a little over 4.3 rpm...

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    sir how old is your mbvan at that time? is it the local version? marami kasing misconception talaga dun sa van na yun... marami din pagkakamali ang mga gumagawa kaya after awhile pag pinagawa mo may nasira pala yung gumawa or mali ang pagkakagawa kaya na sisira ulit... or nagpapalit ng mga japan na parts like bearing, etc.... hindi talaga tumatagal ang mga japan parts sa mb...

    pag dating naman sa 135kph.. talagang maugong ang engine... 5 CYLINDER EH.. BAKA malamang sir sliding clutch ka na kung ganun... check mo youtube meron dun 155kph near redline.... i think its a little over 4.3 rpm...
    We bought it in 1996, brand new from CATS (it was also serviced there) and sold it in 2002 (replaced with a 3.0 Hiace Grandia, which we then replaced with another Hiace Grandia GL in 2008). It had around 90,000kms by the time we sold it. It was regularly driven on the highway since day one so definitely that's really the speed range it can attain (even the MB brochure listed its top speed at that).

    The number of cylinders has nothing to do with the engine sound; in fact vehicles with more cylinders generally run smoother. Its really the design insulation, vibration control and the engine is just really loud. :D Stuffing the gearshifter with cotton and rag did reduce the noise.

    But going back to the topic of the TS, i still maintain that its best to get a new or the newest possible vehicle to minimize repairs needed. My officemate before has several GT service vehicles and once the van/AUV ages, more and more income is lost to repairs and service, and the vehicle downtime that accompanies it.

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by andrei79 View Post
    sir nasa 200-250k lng po ang budget ko sguro hanggang 300k kasama na ang Franchisa niya sana po makakuha ako sabi po nila pareho lang ng makina ang Grace at Mitsubishi L300 totoo po yun?
    I see. For GT Express, I do not recommend AUVs like Crosswinds, Revos or Adventures that much since they have limited seating capacity and their fuel consumption is similar to that of bigger vans since they have the same sort of engines. Naku~ medyo mahirap makahanap ng matinong sasakyan for that budget... Hindi na talaga maaring maistretch yan? You'll probably need at least 300k and above to get a good vehicle. And since pang araw araw na harabas yan, hindi talaga pwedeng ititipid yan. So far you are right... Hyundai Grace lang ata ang kumakasya sa budget mo. Pero karamihan mga early to mid 90s na Korea surplus din ang mga to kaya ingat ingat lang baka makakuha ng laspag na unit. Subukan mo rin maghanap ng Kia Pregio 2.7L engine yan and its basically the van version of the Kia K2700. Makakakuha ka ng mas bagong unit as compared to the Hyundai Grace at baka in better condition rin. I find this van a lot more modern at comfortable din ang ride niya. My late great grandmother liked Pregios a lot. Yung anak niya (kapatid ng lola ko) always had a Pregio at my great grandmother's disposal. So far they have bought three Pregios in all, pinapalitan agad once it gets a bit old. One in '96, another in '99 and the last one in '02. Noong 2002, sinubukan nilang palitan ng Hiace Super Grandia (yung lumang model) and my great grandmother complained na ang tagtag daw sobra as compared to the Pregio. Kakatuwa nga eh, napakaikli ng stay ng Hiace diyan. Yung plaka nun XCJ-xxx tapos yung plaka ng Pregio that replaced it XDS-xxx

    Ito mga Pregio, tingnan mo: Buy and sell online in NCR: Kia Pregio - Ayosdito.ph

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