RE: Honda and F1. F1's relation to actual road engines is very very tenuous. There's as much F1 in any Honda as there is an a Toyota Hiace.

That said, Jenson finished pretty well in Turkey, too. Honda's F1 package is very good, and after their stumble last year, they can only go up. Toyota? They had a pretty good package last year, helped by the tire change rule, but this year, they're middle of the field.