Used 86/BRZ vs Used WRX MT/CVT vs Brand new Civic RS turbo

[Janemar]

I am referring to the gasoline variant as opposed to my diesel variant, it should perform with better acceleration. I made it clear that the Mustang is the sure winner.

2017 86 MT - 0-100km/h: 7.79 sec, 1/4 mile: 15.69 seconds at 146.8km/h
2017 Toyota 86 GTS (manual) 0-100km/h & engine sound - YouTube


2017 RS CVT -0-100km/h: 7.54 sec, 1/4 mile: 15.65 seconds at 148.4km/h
2016 Honda Civic RS turbo 0-100km/h & engine sound - YouTube


2016 MX-5 6MT - 0-100km/h: 7.7 seconds
2016 Mazda MX-5 1.5L (manual) 0-100km/h & engine sound - YouTube


2013 IS250 - 0-100km/h: 7.6 seconds
2013 Lexus IS 250 engine sound and 0-100km/h - YouTube


2016 WRX CVT - 0-100km/h: 6.6 sec (Intelligent mode. 6.7 seconds in Sport Sharp) / (around mid 14sec. for 1/4 mile time)
2016 Subaru WRX 0-100km/h & engine sound (manual vs CVT auto) - YouTube


2016 Forester XT CVT - 0-100km/h: 8.27 sec, 1/4 mile: 16.18 sec at 143.7km/h
https://youtu.be/qsKwLl0mpZg


2017 Mazda 6 2.5L, 6A/T - 0-100km/h: 8.34 sec, 1/4 mile: 16.16 sec at 142.4km/h
https://youtu.be/CWOAvnpgDkQ


2017 Accord v6, 3.5L, 6AT - 0-100km/h: 5.7 sec, 1/4 mile: 14.2 sec * 98.6 mph
http://www.motortrend.com/news/honda...ear-contender/


2016 Passat 6DSG, 2.0TDi - 0-100km/h: 9.30 sec, 1/4 mile: 16.93 seconds at 137.7km/h
https://youtu.be/s_vrz0vgMQg

[E@tpc]

My mazda 3 and mx5 left my gt86. Sold it this yr and if you plan to use it for barkadas then your friends will hate you if you want to seat them at the back. The gt86/brz/frs is a fast looking slow car. Subaru owners will recommend that you just get the 2.0 wrx rather than the sti version for a couple of good reasons.. the wrx has a newer, smaller displacement engine but packs almost the same hp as the sti model. The sti engine is the decades old engine that is such a gas guzzler.. you'll be getting around 4-5km/l in todays phil traffic.

[StockEngine]

My mazda 3 and mx5 left my gt86. Sold it this yr and if you plan to use it for barkadas then your friends will hate you if you want to seat them at the back. The gt86/brz/frs is a fast looking slow car. Subaru owners will recommend that you just get the 2.0 wrx rather than the sti version for a couple of good reasons.. the wrx has a newer, smaller displacement engine but packs almost the same hp as the sti model. The sti engine is the decades old engine that is such a gas guzzler.. you'll be getting around 4-5km/l in todays phil traffic.

gt86 pag 2 passengers kolelat na? 😅

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[StockEngine]

bro how hard did you push that 1.6cvt altis? sarap ng 1-2-3-4-5 if manual mode 😉

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[AltisAndMZ3FAN]

2017 86 MT - 0-100km/h: 7.79 sec, 1/4 mile: 15.69 seconds at 146.8km/h
2017 Toyota 86 GTS (manual) 0-100km/h & engine sound - YouTube


2017 RS CVT -0-100km/h: 7.54 sec, 1/4 mile: 15.65 seconds at 148.4km/h
2016 Honda Civic RS turbo 0-100km/h & engine sound - YouTube


2016 MX-5 6MT - 0-100km/h: 7.7 seconds
2016 Mazda MX-5 1.5L (manual) 0-100km/h & engine sound - YouTube


2013 IS250 - 0-100km/h: 7.6 seconds
2013 Lexus IS 250 engine sound and 0-100km/h - YouTube


2016 WRX CVT - 0-100km/h: 6.6 sec (Intelligent mode. 6.7 seconds in Sport Sharp) / (around mid 14sec. for 1/4 mile time)
2016 Subaru WRX 0-100km/h & engine sound (manual vs CVT auto) - YouTube


2016 Forester XT CVT - 0-100km/h: 8.27 sec, 1/4 mile: 16.18 sec at 143.7km/h
https://youtu.be/qsKwLl0mpZg


2017 Mazda 6 2.5L, 6A/T - 0-100km/h: 8.34 sec, 1/4 mile: 16.16 sec at 142.4km/h
https://youtu.be/CWOAvnpgDkQ


2017 Accord v6, 3.5L, 6AT - 0-100km/h: 5.7 sec, 1/4 mile: 14.2 sec * 98.6 mph
http://www.motortrend.com/news/honda...ear-contender/


2016 Passat 6DSG, 2.0TDi - 0-100km/h: 9.30 sec, 1/4 mile: 16.93 seconds at 137.7km/h
https://youtu.be/s_vrz0vgMQg

Never thought Civic RS is capable to hold it's own in terms of 0-100 times

[AltisAndMZ3FAN]

bro how hard did you push that 1.6cvt altis? sarap ng 1-2-3-4-5 if manual mode 😉

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Takbong gentleman hehe, but i had Speedlab power package just in case i want to have fun

[AltisAndMZ3FAN]

How I envy you at your age, getting that 86/BRZ... Since this is your dream car, one thing I can guarantee to you is this: it is the exhilarating feeling whenever you are inside and driving it. It's like your first crush smiling back to you, the feeling of excitement and that rushing of your heart.

With your age, never mind the issues I mentioned. It's a long way for you to ever consider it. So what do I say? I say go for it!

Now, to answer your question. Will it pass as a daily drive? It depends on where you usually go. I remember that it has a very low ground clearance when compared to other cars. If you travel around provinces and unfamiliar roads, this car is not a good choice. Potholes are your worst enemy. Another thing to consider is that why these people are selling these cars? I had the impression before that this kind of car is something that you'll keep and passed on the next generation. I thought that this will be the case, but I think it's not when in fact they are selling it. You might want to read the article from Top Gear about this 86/BRZ exchanging it to Lexus (not sure about this brand).

As a daily drive, take into consideration the fuel consumption. Newer cars have better fuel consumption, generally speaking.

Getting your dream car is the "second best" thing that can happen in your life. What's the "first best"? It will be your wife... the "right" wife will be like "heaven" here on Earth, the "wrong" wife will be like "hell" here on Earth.

Actually my long term Gf and I just broke up that's why i'm planning to just shell out my fund to my dream car. I've read the article you mentioned and it's about comfort vs sport. If i get the 86, i think i can upgrade the wheels to use 18s 235/40 for additional ride height .

[StockEngine]

so were witnesses of your next marriage 😅

7s car vs 6s vs 5s car 😁

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[AltisAndMZ3FAN]

so were witnesses of your next marriage 😅

7s car vs 6s vs 5s car 😁

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Planning to enjoy single life :D
Anyway i'll transfer the piggyback to whatever car i'll purchase that's for sure

[Egan101]

Planning to enjoy single life :D
Anyway i'll transfer the piggyback to whatever car i'll purchase that's for sure

The piggyback might not work for turbo cars like the WRX. It is best to just get a different mod or keep the car stock. The WRX in stock setup has more than enough juice to make the drive more fun compared to the softer, laid-back, more boring drive of the Altis.

[jut703]

Sorry to hear about what happened with you and your ex. But that said, is blowing your money on a sports car really what will make you happy?

There isn't any right or wrong answer btw. As I always say - spend on what makes you truly happy.

Like you, I was contemplating on getting a sports car too (Miata) a few months ago. Yes it's really fun to drive and you'll look really cool as a twenty-something with a sports car.

But ultimately, I found it irresponsible, especially as I haven't even finished paying my house off yet. I could use the money for a Miata to shorten my loan term, or to get better furniture, or to secure my future kids' future. Peace of mind and financial prudence makes me happier than going bonkers on a fancy car.

I guess if you have all those covered, go ahead and enjoy the thrill of a sports car.

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[Walter]

Same sentiments ...

[dr. d]

Actually my long term Gf and I just broke up that's why i'm planning to just shell out my fund to my dream car. I've read the article you mentioned and it's about comfort vs sport. If i get the 86, i think i can upgrade the wheels to use 18s 235/40 for additional ride height .

...make it red...
heh heh.

[mda]

Yung okay sa MX5 though... is that 20 years later, assuming you take good care of it, maganda pa rin.

I don't think you should sell the Corolla for an impractical car.

If ever you pull the trigger on something, tingin ko dapat 2nd car nalang.

[jut703]

Yung okay sa MX5 though... is that 20 years later, assuming you take good care of it, maganda pa rin.

This is what I love about the Miata - instant classic.

The 86/BRZ feels very much like a fad to me. Everyone wanted one, and then suddenly it became so ubiquitous and now it just doesn't feel all that special.

The WRX is the fastest, most sensible sports car under 2M, but sensible and sports car are often at odds against each other. If it would be my only car, the WRX is the obvious choice because it has 4 doors. But as a sports car, I think the Miata has more appeal even with far less horses.

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[mda]

Aside from the price and some increase in weight, malaki ba yung difference ng hardtop models? While I like the standard MX5, having a soft top and parking it in MM doesn't feel safe at all to me... haha!

[Calistro]

I'd say keep the current car and blow your money trying out new things and travelling. A sports car's only fun when the road is wide open or during track days. How often would those be?

I'm sure everyone here dreamed of driving evos and stis everyday, but when life dawns on you that it really isn't practical..

Reviews mostly point out that you have to be mostly in the redline to enjoy the twin's boxer engine opposed to the miata that its already fun even in moderate speeds. Haven't driven either, but the mx5 is much more appealing.


I don't know about the wrx.. it sure looks more fun with a lot of power, good handling and a bit more practical with the boot space and added seats.. but how's the maintenance of this car?

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[Egan101]

Reviews mostly point out that you have to be mostly in the redline to enjoy the twin's boxer engine opposed to the miata that its already fun even in moderate speeds. Haven't driven either, but the mx5 is much more appealing.

I don't know about the wrx.. it sure looks more fun with a lot of power, good handling and a bit more practical with the boot space and added seats.. but how's the maintenance of this car?

With the new Subaru turbo engines, you don't need to push it to redline to get some decent performance out of it. The FA20 engine of the WRX, Forester XT, and Levorg 2.0DIT offers ample amount of torque below 2k rpm and once the turbo spools just before 2500 rpm, it can do much better and you find yourself at triple digit speeds in a few seconds. If you want to push it to its limits, set the vehicle into Sport# mode and the tach can rise easily to redline. With the CVT, power delivery is handled well across the rev range. Even at 200 kmh, the engine is not yet pushed to its redline.

If opting for the CVT model, maintenance would be about the same as the Forester XT. The FA20 engine requires 5L of FS 5w30 oil per change. CVT fluid (13L) needs replacement around 45k KM. The FA20 have plugs that are good up to 100-120k KM but each one costs around P1600.

I think the more expensive ones to consider are the tires and the brake pads. If you are driving aggressively every day on the express ways, tires and pads get worn out faster.

[mda]

The 86/BRZ feels very much like a fad to me. Everyone wanted one, and then suddenly it became so ubiquitous and now it just doesn't feel all that special.

I still want one!

Another one of the nicer cars you can park anywhere.

Pag tipong RC-F na yung dala mo, nakakatakot na magpark kung saan saan haha

[Egan101]

The 86/BRZ feels very much like a fad to me. Everyone wanted one, and then suddenly it became so ubiquitous and now it just doesn't feel all that special.

It's the aesthetics and looks that catches the usual folks. They don't care that much on performance and most would drive it like their usual compact. Not everyone drives their cars to their limits, some have not even tried to push their cars to redline.

If only Subaru puts a more powerful turbo engine on the BRZ, maybe by then you can get the most out of the platform. However, it's like slapping Toyota in the face as it has no turbo option unless Toyota plans to put the Lexus 2.0L turbo engine on it.