MONTERO SPORT or FORD EVEREST

[Xt7]

Tara na at pag usapan naman natin ang mga pagkakaiba sa dalawang mga "halimaw" na SUV na ito..

interior, exterior, engine, FC, maintenance, resale value, negative and positive comments, off-road performance (sa 4x4 models), comfort, safety...

parehas ko kasi idol tong mga to eh..

[dadz]

Off road performance dito tol wala pa ako nakita na EVEREST sa bundok hindi siya pumatok dito sa thailand hehehehehhehe but for MS yup we have some friends na ginagamit sa bundok ang rig nila.

Interior and exterior mas gusto ko pa din ang MS but the EVEREST is macho at malaki hehehehehehhehe.

[FWC]

Off road performance dito tol wala pa ako nakita na EVEREST sa bundok hindi siya pumatok dito sa thailand hehehehehhehe but for MS yup we have some friends na ginagamit sa bundok ang rig nila.

Interior and exterior mas gusto ko pa din ang MS but the EVEREST is macho at malaki hehehehehehhehe.

Of course, you won't. Thailand is a large valley. There are no mountains, only low hills. The mountains are only along the borders with the other countries. I traveled for 10 hours from Bangkok all the way to Chiang Mai in the north and it was flat terrain all the way. It was only when we reached Chiang Mai that we saw a mountain -- and not even a tall one, at that.

You will never find these heights in Thailand unless you go to the border areas:




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[dadz]

Of course, you won't. Thailand is a large valley. There are no mountains, only low hills. The mountains are only along the borders with the other countries. I traveled for 10 hours from Bangkok all the way to Chiang Mai in the north and it was flat terrain all the way. It was only when we reached Chiang Mai that we saw a mountain -- and not even a tall one, at that.

You will never find these heights in Thailand unless you go to the border areas:

Tol bago mag salita na walang bundok dito pwede alamin mo muna ang sinasabi mo. Chang Mai is just one of the provinces. Make a research and find out muna before you make a comment, not just what you see in the highway or on the road.

Maybe you just want your everest to be noticed, okay got to agree mukang 4wheeler ka nga kasi me picture ka na nasa bundok. Being a 4wheeler and commenting about a truck's performance in a diffrent terrain is a big deal, its not just that the everest is not good dito because it's simply not good.

[JPG111]

Maybe you just want your everest to be noticed, okay got to agree mukang 4wheeler ka nga kasi me picture ka na nasa bundok. Being a 4wheeler and commenting about a truck's performance in a diffrent terrain is a big deal, its not just that the everest is not good dito because it's simply not good.

:massmoon:

[FWC]

Tol bago mag salita na walang bundok dito pwede alamin mo muna ang sinasabi mo. Chang Mai is just one of the provinces. Make a research and find out muna before you make a comment, not just what you see in the highway or on the road.

Maybe you just want your everest to be noticed, okay got to agree mukang 4wheeler ka nga kasi me picture ka na nasa bundok. Being a 4wheeler and commenting about a truck's performance in a diffrent terrain is a big deal, its not just that the everest is not good dito because it's simply not good.

You want research? How about this:

"Thailand is comprised of a large central plain, with the Khorat Plateau in the east and some mountains elsewhere, particularly at the borders of Burma, Cambodia, and Malaysia. Highest point is at Doi Inthanon which is 2,576 meters above sea level."

Compare this with the highest peak in Luzon (Mt. Pulag) which is 2,922 meters high and you'll see the difference. Their highest point in Thailand is even just comparable to Mt. Tapulao in Zambales.

I did not refer only to Chiang Mai. What I wrote was that I traveled for ten (10) hours from Bangkok in the south to Chiang Mai in the north and all I see were open plains. No high mountains at all. In the Philippines, get out of Manila and in a couple of hours, you can be in the mountains of Sierra Madre in the east, or the Batangas mountains in the south, or the Zambales peaks in the nortwest. Move just a little bit father north and you would be in the Cordilleras or the Caraballo mountains.

You can't conclude that the Everest "is simply not good" because you have not seen one at the trails or the mountains in Thailand. If that is your premise, then by the same token, would you accept it if I say that the MS is not good because I have not seen one yet in the trails and mountains here in the Philippines?

Peace bro! Merry Christmas.

[dadz]

hahahahahahaha i can see that you dont have an idea about 4wheeling hehehehehe any way peace bro.

[1D4LV]

imho.

Interiors = MS
Exteriors = MS
FC = Everest
Maintenance = bit even
Resale = bit even
Offroad performance = Everest (subok na ito....)
Comfort = MS
Safety = slightly, MS

[Xt7]

ano ba mas malaki sa dalawa? ano mas mataas ground clearance?

[yebo]

although i chose the santa fe over these 2 (di naman kasi ako mag-off road, the "worst" i'd take it is to the beach) i had checked out both everest and MS before when i was on "dream mode", that was when i was still dreaming of getting one. hands down MS wins. here's why...

- everest is masikip ang 3rd row. i'm not just talking leg room, head room din masikip. sa MS the 2nd row is adjustable so the leg room can be remedied. head room is also better on MS.

- ang di ko maintindihan, tagal na nga everest sa market pero hangang ngayon wala pa din head rest ang 2nd and 3rd row seats. why??? everest 2nd and 3rd row seats are also very uncomfortable kasi wala support sa shoulders, parang nakaupo ka sa bench na yung sandalan e kapos.

- MS has "softened coil springs" for rear suspension (they must have read the tsikot thread on the bumpy fortuner hahaha!) while everest has leaf springs. unless you plan to load 10 sacks of rice at the back the MS is way better hands down. (but after riding on the santa fe, both of these 2 were cancelled out from my list. passenger comfort ranks #1 on my check list since i have small kids)

- everest has an ugly face, the MS has an ugly butt. so it depends on you whether you like it missionary or doggy.

- everest is wider a bit but you still will not be able to fit 4 adults in the 2nd row seats of the everest. so this is not a plus, tabla sila.

- engine, parehas lang sila. subok na ang engine ng MS (from pajero) but so is the engine of the everest (from the ranger).

[JJCarEnthusiast]

- everest has an ugly face, the MS has an ugly butt. so it depends on you whether you like it missionary or doggy.

lol :rofl:

MS for me. i admit i became an everest fan before. but ms has more attractive styling exterior and interior. it has the combination of ruggedness and versatility at the same time. and i heard (and think) that ms should have more comfortable ride because of coil springs. though everest's leaf springs should be more stronger in the long run. and everest's third row seats rides bumpy daw. pero you can't go wrong with both

[Drave]

Both trucks are great but it seems that the MS would win in comfort, styling and interior.

One thing I can say though for the everest, it's just so damn reliable. No out-of-the box problems with my truck whatsoever. I just had to change all the shocks to Procomps for a mere 17k and the ride comfort might approximate or even beat the MS.

[1D4LV]

- everest has an ugly face, the MS has an ugly butt. so it depends on you whether you like it missionary or doggy.

OT: what a comparison...

[kian2x]

Sir for me everest... in terms of engine power and off road capability everest you can rely on it has a highest horsepower in its class including fortuner and MS.. id not prefer kc sa looks na futuristics kc pag dumami cla sa kalsada wow damn nakakasawa na in a matter of months,, unlike the boxy looks of everest even after 5 years of owning it hindi siya nakakasawa dahil flexible ang exterior kahit tumanda kna at dalhin mo to sa province for relaxation or turn over it to your son...and in terms of FC it reach 12km per liter on highway driving and 10km per liter on city or traffic driving,awsome FC unlike other gagguzzler JAP SUV's,.. on its power plant sobrang lakas nito humatak dahil sa class leading torque nitong 380 Nm na only navara can beat because it has 420Nm of torque..
id remenber na ngreverse mode ako ng almost 30 meters and 30 degress incline wow sisiw na sisiw sa everest even in not 4X4 mode,its suspension is leap spring its bacause it is more preferable on though condition of the road ,wherever you want to bring this beast,it will never pull you down and its groud braking safety including four airbag in (4X4 version) dual front airbag, and two side airbag for elbow support..and it has also an LSD (Limited Slip Differential) to aviod slipped on the muddy tracks on off road driving...

what colud you ask for....on having a powerful,reliable,safest and capable offroad BEAST SUV

[JPG111]

in terms of engine power and off road capability everest you can rely on it has a highest horsepower in its class including fortuner and MS..and it has also an LSD (Limited Slip Differential) to aviod slipped on the muddy tracks on off road driving...

The Montero Sport & Fortuner has a higher horsepower rating at 163 hp compared to the everest.. The everest only has a higher torque at 380 Nm..

The MS also has a Hybrid LSD ..

[Xt7]

nga pala, sa MS mo lang pala magagamit ng wasto ang HID diba?.... MS naka projector pero sa everest hindi pa rin. parang everest na lang ang hindi naka projector type headlight.. new fortuner, MS, alterra, sta.fe, cr-v, captiva, rav4 at pajero lahat sila naka projector na..

subok na nga engine ng MS, dati lagi tong panalo sa Dakar rally championship..

for me, mas may hubog ang MS,yun bang mas aerodynamic ba yung design. maganda humati ng hangin sa kapag hi speeds.

[yebo]

curb weight ng everest 3.0 = 2005 kg, hp= 156 hp, trq = 380 NM
curb weight ng MS = 2105 kg, hp = 163, trq = 343 NM

power to weight ratio lamang ang everest ng konti
MS = 0.0774 hp/kg
Everest = 0.0778 hp/kg

torque to weight ratio lamang ang everest.
MS = 0.1629 NM/kg
Everest = 0.1895 NM/kg

as can be seen above, mas mataas ratios ng everest in both power and torque. so hindi po kung alin ang mas mataas ang HP, tignan po dapat yung weight ng vehicle.

[karlbo]

di ako bias.. pero mas ok performance ng everest eh..

everest na yan..

[PhazotroN]

Good eve, mga sirs!
Ask lang po ako about the price of each SUV that you're talking about?
I heard kc that nissan will market the pathfinder here minus the 4.0L engine, instead they will use the navara's 2.7L(??) engine with a market price of about 1.6-1.7M php.
thanks po sa lahat!

[arbe]

curb weight ng everest 3.0 = 2005 kg, hp= 156 hp, trq = 380 NM
curb weight ng MS = 2105 kg, hp = 163, trq = 343 NM

power to weight ratio lamang ang everest ng konti
MS = 0.0774 hp/kg
Everest = 0.0778 hp/kg

torque to weight ratio lamang ang everest.
MS = 0.1629 NM/kg
Everest = 0.1895 NM/kg

as can be seen above, mas mataas ratios ng everest in both power and torque. so hindi po kung alin ang mas mataas ang HP, tignan po dapat yung weight ng vehicle.

true,mas malakas ang hatak ng eve but i've notice that after 140 kmh hindi na cya kasing tulin ng MS..one time nakasakay ako with my friend's eve 4x4 and running at 140kmh hindi na cya makahabol sa MS na sinusundan namin..but running at 20kmh then pedal on the floor zoom iwan namin ang MS....yun nga lang after awhile nandyan na naman si MS sa harapan namin...I believe that was 3.2 4x4 MS..kahit naka GLS lang nakalagay sa likod I know na that was 3.2 kasi ang tulin eh..