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    All priced nearly to each other; all pick-ups, all with 4x4.

    Which is the best for hauling stuff and doing it in bad terrain? Which one would last more than a decade?

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    I'm going Toyota with this. primarily because better steering. the suspension is really built to haul heavy items. You will have plenty of 3party options after 10years. The 2.4Liter engine is built to have maximum reliability. Toyota did not downsize too much. They didn't push too much boost with their turbo. You also get a differential lock in case you're really in slippery offroad situations.


    Isuzu philippines has really removed alot of features on the Dmax LT. And its too expensive. No airbags? No ABS? 16inch wheels? lol

    Isuzu even had the audacity to put the 5 speed manual transimission!!! You can't even download the specs from IsuzuPH's website.

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    ever since I hated pick-up pero eto Ranger ko parang love ko to kahit company car ko lang

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    Hauling stuff and bad roads matic ako Hilux. Bias ako kasi i use 1.

    Once loaded 13-15 sacks of rice sa bed ng hilux low-rider hindi nagreklamo aside sa dumapa lang yung likod. Kailangan lang sobra bagal takbo kasi hirap habulin yung brakes. Hehe

    Too bare yung isuzu but for hauling stuff i know it gets the job done.

    Ranger complete package sana but may kulang para saakin na hindi ko ma-pinpoint..

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    kulang sa paligo? Pero hinde eh pinaka pogi Ranger sa lahat

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    TS wanted to know which would last a decade?

    I currently own a raptor but I came from a hilux revo, I personally think the hilux will last for years more so than its competitors.

    With regards to looks, kanya kanya na yan.

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    They will all last more than a decade if well taken cared. DMAx will be the most frugal to operate and maintain while the ford will be the most costlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    They will all last more than a decade if well taken cared. DMAx will be the most frugal to operate and maintain while the ford will be the most costlier.
    if casa maintained. the isuzu dmax will cost the most while the ford will require yearly visit lng.

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    We have Dmaxes, Hiluxes, NP300s, Tritrons, Rangers in the fleet. After warrenty expired the Ford is costlier. I've seen one with engine out of the bay because of oil-priming issue. Also ford parts are costlier, hard-to source out because of limited supplier. The new one is not as reliable as the old ford that you could easily swap parts from Mazda.

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    I am in the same dilemma. In narrowing my choices, I have ruled out the ranger because of the percieved high cost of maintenance and more importantly the lack of rear differential lock or at least some kind of limited slip rear differential. I seriously considered the navarra el 4x4 mt. However, the dealer informed me that this variant is currently not available in most dealerships nationwide. The VL navarra is already too expensive. It seems I might have to go with the hilux. The only thing holding me back is the stiff ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spotdog11 View Post
    I am in the same dilemma. In narrowing my choices, I have ruled out the ranger because of the percieved high cost of maintenance and more importantly the lack of rear differential lock or at least some kind of limited slip rear differential. I seriously considered the navarra el 4x4 mt. However, the dealer informed me that this variant is currently not available in most dealerships nationwide. The VL navarra is already too expensive. It seems I might have to go with the hilux. The only thing holding me back is the stiff ride.

    Which is the best for hauling stuff and doing it in bad terrain? Which one would last more than a decade?
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    There are aftermarket shock absorbers available for the hilux. I would go for the 10way ridemax or 9way toughdog.

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    pinakamahal pala Ranger to maintain, isama na din natin old strada and navarra entry level mas mura ba mag maintain nito?

    personally, i like the ranger then navarra, gaano ba katipid sa FC itong mga pickup with these 2.0L - 2.5L engines, in 60 kph average?

    sorry po sa TS kung me Qs na 4x2

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    Quote Originally Posted by sp00nman View Post
    pinakamahal pala Ranger to maintain, isama na din natin old strada and navarra entry level mas mura ba mag maintain nito?

    personally, i like the ranger then navarra, gaano ba katipid sa FC itong mga pickup with these 2.0L - 2.5L engines, in 60 kph average?

    sorry po sa TS kung me Qs na 4x2
    you can download the ranger maintenance cost here

    Ford Philippines | Maintenance Service

    once you add the cost for 5years or 60000km, tell us again how expensive itd be..

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    Mga Sir, makikisali na rin ako. Pasensya na. Ang pinagpipilian ko ngayon ay Toyota Hilux 2.4 E MT at Nissan Navara 4x4 EL MT. Importante sa akin is ride comfort, matipid sa fuel at mura sa maintenance. Alin kaya dito sa dalawa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seeker101 View Post
    Mga Sir, makikisali na rin ako. Pasensya na. Ang pinagpipilian ko ngayon ay Toyota Hilux 2.4 E MT at Nissan Navara 4x4 EL MT. Importante sa akin is ride comfort, matipid sa fuel at mura sa maintenance. Alin kaya dito sa dalawa?
    GOoD luck sa pagbili mo sir, let us what you would get and pricing, payment scheme hehe

    thanks, Stock for the rAnger PMS info, ang question na lang siguro is how coslty yung ibang parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by seeker101 View Post
    Mga Sir, makikisali na rin ako. Pasensya na. Ang pinagpipilian ko ngayon ay Toyota Hilux 2.4 E MT at Nissan Navara 4x4 EL MT. Importante sa akin is ride comfort, matipid sa fuel at mura sa maintenance. Alin kaya dito sa dalawa?
    bro the hilux has the worst suspension aka stiff. if you live in the province with bad roads. baka magka stiff neck ka. cervical spine issues, thoracic and lumbar too lol. a suspension upgrade might address this issue.


    the night and day phrase here works nicely. the Navara is the best riding pickup. though comfort is still far from a midsize or even a compact like a civic.

    both will consume almost the same fuel.

    as for maintenance.. nissan is promoting every 10,000km oil changes.. like what ford is doing.

    after warranty has finished...

    maintenance cost is the same imo, clutch replacement. suspension parts, brake pads, engine oils and filters. ac filters.

    alternator or compressor failures will probably occur after 5-10 years depending on usage.

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    Salamat sa mga nag reply. For the Navara ang alam ko ay 20k na yata ang interval ng oil change. Sa ngayon mukhang 60% in favor of Navara.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seeker101 View Post
    Salamat sa mga nag reply. For the Navara ang alam ko ay 20k na yata ang interval ng oil change. Sa ngayon mukhang 60% in favor of Navara.
    kung matangkad ka bro. pinakamasikip ang 2nd row ng navara according to reviews. we still wont get the newly revised steering ratio also. so heavy steering. so thats 2 things to keep in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    kung matangkad ka bro. pinakamasikip ang 2nd row ng navara according to reviews. we still wont get the newly revised steering ratio also. so heavy steering. so thats 2 things to keep in mind.
    Noted bro. Salamat.

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    The only other option I was considering was the navarra EL 4x4. However, walang available unit for this particular variant. Pero sa totoo lang, My heart and mind is really for the hilux. In my opinion kasi, the ride quality is the only advantage of the navarra over the hilux. So, I finally decided to order the hilux yesterday. I went around and compared prices for the bumper, stepboard, bedliner, oem mags and tires. Mga 50-60k po lahat. Not bad at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by seeker101 View Post
    Mga Sir, makikisali na rin ako. Pasensya na. Ang pinagpipilian ko ngayon ay Toyota Hilux 2.4 E MT at Nissan Navara 4x4 EL MT. Importante sa akin is ride comfort, matipid sa fuel at mura sa maintenance. Alin kaya dito sa dalawa?

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