TCi vs CRDi

**pup2** · January 26th, 2008 05:46 PM

Ask ko lang sa inyo ... does it still make sense to get a non-CRDI diesel today? I'm asking lang kasi yung Starex almost 400K ang mahal nung CRDi unit sa non-CRDi. Kaso kung kukuha ka naman ng TCi unit baka naman mapag-iwanan ka na ng panahon at ng service and parts support?

**ianmitsulancer** · January 26th, 2008 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by pup2

Ask ko lang sa inyo ... does it still make sense to get a non-CRDI diesel today? I'm asking lang kasi yung Starex almost 400K ang mahal nung CRDi unit sa non-CRDi. Kaso kung kukuha ka naman ng TCi unit baka naman mapag-iwanan ka na ng panahon at ng service and parts support?

if you are budget constraint, you can still go for the TCi. looking at the present day brand new adventure (non TCi and Rotary type fuel injection) and pajero field master, it is still using this tried and tested format. also, the 4D56 has been around for some time now- kahit nakapikit ang mekaniko- he can still do fix the engine!

you can worry about this engine going prehistoric by say... uhm... year 2020, presumably! by that time, you would have sold that starex na!

**lui** · January 26th, 2008 10:02 PM

depende po. ung ibang tci model kasi kahit power lock at side mirror wala :sad:

**pup2** · January 27th, 2008 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by lui

depende po. ung ibang tci model kasi kahit power lock at side mirror wala :sad:

Ugh. Ouch. Salamat, lui. Akala ko kasi pareho lang sila ng trim and features eh.

**mark_t** · January 27th, 2008 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by pup2

Ask ko lang sa inyo ... does it still make sense to get a non-CRDI diesel today? I'm asking lang kasi yung Starex almost 400K ang mahal nung CRDi unit sa non-CRDi. Kaso kung kukuha ka naman ng TCi unit baka naman mapag-iwanan ka na ng panahon at ng service and parts support?

Hindi ka naman mapag iiwanan, andami pa nga mercedes na luma dyan na tumatakbo pa at may new old stock parts pa.

**Dieseldude** · January 28th, 2008 11:55 AM

Old technology ang TCI. Practical mag TCI kung nasa probinsiya ka dahil maraming nakakaalam magrepair nito.

Kung nasa city ka naman, ok mag CRDI. Available ang support dito sa new technology engines. Matibay ang CRDI basta gumamit lang tayo ng original fuel filters and clean diesel fuel. Medyo sensitive ang CRDI sa fuel quality and "water in fuel".

**GSTM9** · January 28th, 2008 11:36 PM

Aside from the obvious benefits of increased power and torque, does the CRDi really translate into fuel savings?

One can go on about the advantages power wise, but if you end up paying more for the fuel, it defeats the purpose of trying to economize in the first place.

I computed that for a CRDi to recover the higher investment cost over the TCi, one would have to drive for over 12 years or 230,000+km! (this assumes average of 50 km driven per day, or 18,000+ km per year, with TCi averaging 6.5kpl and CRDi 8kpl. The price difference is P300,000 and diesel cost is P38.50/liter).

Can Starex/Grand Starex owners validate these assumptions?

One last thing...the Grand Starex is much heavier than the Gen 3 Starex....expect that the fuel economy will suffer a bit more because of the added weight.

**Dieseldude** · January 29th, 2008 11:40 AM

Great calculation GSTM9.

Hyundai should respond to this.

**XTO** · January 29th, 2008 12:20 PM

my opinion, TDIC repair pa lang ay hindi na biro what more yung mga CRDi’s when time comes? Considering that the one who will shoulder or even suffer this are the "would be" 2nd, 3rd and so owners. So if I’m going to look for a pre-owned diesel powered, I would still go for non CRDi’s. Dumating ka man sa situation na medyo major eh hindi ganun kabigat.

**Bogeyman** · January 29th, 2008 12:30 PM

I'd give CRDi five more years siguro before considering its viability for me, knowing the quality of local diesel fuel.

In the meantime, I'm sticking to my 4D56.