Subaru Impreza wrx or wrx sti?

[jjmichaels]

Forester nalang. Mataas ang wife acceptance factor. Hindi kasi nya mahahalata na WRX ang makina. Hehe
Seriously, the STi would be a better deal in the long run.

[Jun aka Pekto]

Mas ok ang WRX kaysa STI version,medyo di ok ang WRX STI rito dahil Euro-Asian version ang nandito hindi yung 300hp USDM...Oh well sulit naman ang WRX...

I doubt you'll miss that 20 hp esp for such a relatively light car.

[boyscout]

IMHO always get the highest variant. Specific car model was designed by the manufacturers based on the highest variant.

[redorange]

ser thread starter, ano choice mo?

btw, is it true that the upgrade kit for the WRX can make it more powerfull and faster(max 280kph) than the STI?...and is cheaper.

Yes, you can make a regular WRX as powerfull as the STI, not sure about faster though. My nephew had a WRX with the old 2.0L(EJ205) with the 227 stock and by the time he was done tuning it with the help of Vishnu Tuning it was making STI numbers on the dyno. The current 2.5L(EJ255) engine on all WRX models should be easier to tune for STI level power, granted you won't get the suspension and all the other stuff(6 speed being one) with the STI but you can get the power to equal at the very least. Too bad he sold it after he parted out all the tuning parts and returned it to stock to get the new 3 series.

[ptk675]

yung kakilala ko baliktad.. he has a gc8v with an STI egine swapped in for weekend/rally racing chores and he just bought a new STI from motorimage last week as his daily driver

[kmo]

go with the STI you wont regret the waiting time and the money spent ... iba parin ang stock power than a wrx that you upgraded to make 280hp and int he long run the sti would have a better resale than the wrx

[boyscout]

just got my Sti last wednesday. Sulit!!!!

[jjmichaels]

Congratulations are in order! :banana:

What color did you get?

[boyscout]

WR Blue Mica.

[Karding]

di ba pedeng baguhin shocks para lumambot? lalo kung hindi naman sya pang-track?

see, this is why suspension is not a big factor for me when choosing between the STi and the WRX. How many STi owners really kept their suspension stock anyway?? More often, they replace it with full coil-over suspension. I know I would have.

btw, is it true that the upgrade kit for the WRX can make it more powerfull and faster(max 280kph) than the STI?...and is cheaper.

again, most STi owners doesnt stay stock anyway. Why dont we equally modify both WRX and STi? ;) And it could be a matter of time and HP before tranny on WRX needs upgrading. When that happens, an STi tranny upgrade 6-spd, DCCD, LSD = $6995* plus 02+ WRX installation kit $1499*

*price quote from gruppe-s

anong lugar ba naman sa Pinas ang hindi matagtag?

Boyscout, congrats on the purchase.

[Blackraven]

Kung kaya niyo, go for a Legacy (Sedan/Wagon) or yung Legacy Outback.

It feels more rewarding (in a class of its own)

[bad driver]

Congrats to the STI owner! Always get the best version! It would be hard to sell a non-sti wrx anyways! and you will always wonder how it would feel like to drive the real thing

To Karding and tsikot peeps,

aside from lowering, what advantages does a coil-over spring have over my stockers? it'll corner better but will piss off my wife right?

thanks

[Karding]

Congrats to the STI owner! Always get the best version! It would be hard to sell a non-sti wrx anyways! and you will always wonder how it would feel like to drive the real thing

To Karding and tsikot peeps,

aside from lowering, what advantages does a coil-over spring have over my stockers? it'll corner better but will piss off my wife right?

thanks

bad driver, piss off your wife? coil-over is actually better because you can set the damper to softer settings when driving with the wife. if you are by yourself and do some spirited driving, set it to a stiffer settings.

first, I should have been more specific, its the full coil-over with adjustable damper settings. Most mid-to-high end coil-over has this feature. the adjustable damper is what you want from a coil-over suspension (not spring). which means, you can adjust how stiff or soft your suspension would be. dont confuse it with sleeve-over suspension.

I've had TEIN SS, but Tanabe TEAS sounds good. TEAS is electronic adjustable. Unlike conventional coil-over, the damper setting needs to be adjusted manually by turning a knob on the strut top itself. Whereas on the electronic version, you can adjust it from the driver seat. TEAS is similar to EDFS. However, TEAS took a step further by incorporating an "active" damper settings.

http://www.tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/teas.asp

http://www.tein.com/flexdamp.html plus http://www.tein.com/edfc.html

bad driver, there's a thread somewhere with comprehensive explanation and comparisons of sleeve-over, coil-over, and springs set-up. Im gonna stop know before the OT-ness gets worst.

sorry for the OT

[bad driver]

haha... thanks a lot! sorry for the OT

[Dr.Kamiya]

Don't know about you, but for a street car the local WRX feels a lot better than the local STi. I'm guessing it's the tires, but the WRX is a lot comfier and quieter.

Another thing I don't like about the STi is the narrow powerband. The US and EUDM engine uses a push-bearing type turbo, so even if the block is 2.5li, spool comes pretty late, around about 3-3.5k rpm. Couple that with the lower 7k rpm redline, and all of a sudden that close-ratio 6-speed tranny doesn't sound like such a good idea. IIRC the ratios were designed with the JDM engine's twin-scroll turbo and 8k rpm redline in mind, and they just don't seem to be that well matched to the US/EUDM's 7k redline and slow turbo.

And yes, i've driven both cars. I have the current WRX, was going to put money down on an STi but after having driven it and compared back-to-back with the JDM variant I'm not too sure anymore. I might go for a JDM spec-c instead.

[yuichi]

Don't know about you, but for a street car the local WRX feels a lot better than the local STi. I'm guessing it's the tires, but the WRX is a lot comfier and quieter.

Another thing I don't like about the STi is the narrow powerband. The US and EUDM engine uses a push-bearing type turbo, so even if the block is 2.5li, spool comes pretty late, around about 3-3.5k rpm. Couple that with the lower 7k rpm redline, and all of a sudden that close-ratio 6-speed tranny doesn't sound like such a good idea. IIRC the ratios were designed with the JDM engine's twin-scroll turbo and 8k rpm redline in mind, and they just don't seem to be that well matched to the US/EUDM's 7k redline and slow turbo.

And yes, i've driven both cars. I have the current WRX, was going to put money down on an STi but after having driven it and compared back-to-back with the JDM variant I'm not too sure anymore. I might go for a JDM spec-c instead.

did you get your WRX from Motorimage?

[boyscout]

Don't know about you, but for a street car the local WRX feels a lot better than the local STi. I'm guessing it's the tires, but the WRX is a lot comfier and quieter.

Another thing I don't like about the STi is the narrow powerband. The US and EUDM engine uses a push-bearing type turbo, so even if the block is 2.5li, spool comes pretty late, around about 3-3.5k rpm. Couple that with the lower 7k rpm redline, and all of a sudden that close-ratio 6-speed tranny doesn't sound like such a good idea. IIRC the ratios were designed with the JDM engine's twin-scroll turbo and 8k rpm redline in mind, and they just don't seem to be that well matched to the US/EUDM's 7k redline and slow turbo.

And yes, i've driven both cars. I have the current WRX, was going to put money down on an STi but after having driven it and compared back-to-back with the JDM variant I'm not too sure anymore. I might go for a JDM spec-c instead.

You own a WRX i have an STi we definitely have very diffirent opinions. Though we both own imprezas which in my opinion is the most fun to drive car i have ever driven ever.

[Dr.Kamiya]

did you get your WRX from Motorimage?

Yup. I got the car this January.

I also have an evo which takes care of "fast" duties. Been using the WRX as a daily drive.
Shopping for another car so I can retire the evo already, 2.5li STi na sana but like I said I wasn't happy with the car's powerband and gearing. Hopefully the spec-c will do that once I get to drive it.

[rj_tim]

Aside from the engine, what are the differences in features between the STi and WRX?

[yuichi]

You own a WRX i have an STi we definitely have very diffirent opinions. Though we both own imprezas which in my opinion is the most fun to drive car i have ever driven ever.

how's their(motorimage) aftersales service?
i really wanted one, but still tossing between the STi or WRX, but leaning towards the Rex for its more humane ride.
i really like the STi, but its harsh ride might defeat its purpose as a daily car due to the soft and very good ride of my Santa Fe, baka magsisi ako.