SIR,MIT EVO which is faster?

[niky]

Best Motoring always harps on the fact that an R34's best lap is its first. And yes, it would be faster through a gymkhana than an EVO, due to the Mitsubishi's understeer. The Mitsubishi is more of a point and squirt weapon, while the GTR can be muscled around sideways.

Part of the problem with the R34 was emissions, but the whole model line was getting old anyway, and it wasn't making money, since they weren't selling any of the Skyline models outside of Japan. The new "Skyline", which shares architecture with the 350Z, is a much more commercially viable car, and the next GTR will be better marketed than the old one.

Launching an Evo is a no-brainer. Even a poorly launched Evo can cream a well-driven SiR in the 1/4 mile. You dial in launch revs, let go of the clutch, and there's a minimum of wheelspin before the tires grip and you're off. Of course, do a dozen launches like this and you'll destroy the clutch, but that's a given with any powerful AWD (manual Lamborghini's will only take three or four full-power launches before destroying the clutch). I think it was Jay Leno who said that owning a Lamborghini sucks, because anyone in an econobox can beat you at the stoplight. You're too worried about your clutch to actually race anyone from a standing start. (clutch replacement on a Lambo is around 17,000 dollars, I think).

With the SiR, it's also tough to judge the launch right. I've seen a lot of wannabe dragsters burn up their tires and/or clutch on the dragstrip on the way to a pathetic time. It's tough to judge because the launch rpm window is so high up compared to other 1.6 and 2.0 engines (where you just dial in 3-4k and go). If you launch an SiR at 3k, it'll bog like anything, and if you don't slip the clutch right on a high-rpm launch, you'll just be spinning tires.

[orly_andico]

Launching an Evo is a no-brainer. Even a poorly launched Evo can cream a well-driven SiR in the 1/4 mile. You dial in launch revs, let go of the clutch, and there's a minimum of wheelspin before the tires grip and you're off. Of course, do a dozen launches like this and you'll destroy the clutch, but that's a given with any powerful AWD (manual Lamborghini's will only take three or four full-power launches before destroying the clutch). I think it was Jay Leno who said that owning a Lamborghini sucks, because anyone in an econobox can beat you at the stoplight. You're too worried about your clutch to actually race anyone from a standing start. (clutch replacement on a Lambo is around 17,000 dollars, I think).

which leads me to a question.. does that mean that cars with DSG-type clutches like the RS6 Audi and even the Bugatti Veyron can destroy their clutches if you floor the throttle too many times? or is a DSG clutch inherently superior to the crude human "launch at 4k and slip the clutch"?