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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Hi fellow car lovers,

    Planning to buy a new car this week and need your input on this two cars. Which do you think is the better buy, in terms of durability, fuel consumption, Interior space and riding comfort, I plan to keep this car for at least 5 or more years. Love the subaru but am afraid of the availability of parts since there is only one distributor and I don't know if the parts are available from our friendly banawe store. As for the toyota i don't think that will be a problem. Help. TIA

    Josh

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    The rav's overpriced, imagine it's being priced at 1.4 million.
    Well yeah, you wont have any problems when you have a toyota, the parts availability, the PMS cost etc etc.

    As for the subaru, well yeah, in after 5 years or so, MAYBE the parts wont be that available. But I tell you, it's a nice car after all. FC? Not sure about it.

    If you're just looking for a 5 seater then the forester or the CRV is a good buy.

    7 seater? It's either the santa fe or the montero sport o teka :offtopic: na ko....

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    SUBARU FORESTER.... wag ka na tumingin pa ng iba..di ka magsisi dun...lalo na kung cSUV hanap mo..

    well, pwede na din ang xtrail--250x na xtrail cost about the same as the forester 2.0, both are very capable offroaders than the hyped-cSUVs in the market...mas magaganda pang mga cSUV na yan than the hyped-RAV4 and CRV.

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    Isa pa rin talaga malaking problem ng Subaru. Isa lang CASA nila. Kaya ako ayaw ko pa rin, maybe if they expand I will consider it...

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    un lang talaga.. hmm paano kaya magpa-open ng dealership franchise

    kung dealership is a prob, xtrail is a better cSUV next to forester

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    between your choices, Subaru siempre. But the Forester I want is the boxer diesel whc unfortunately isn't for sale here yet.

    pero personally, I'd wait for the 2010 KIA Sorento XM coming out this year (july or august ata). Like the upcoming 2010 Santa Fe, it comes with a 2.2L 200hp 436Nm CRDI EVGT engine mated to a 6-speed auto with manual mode. Seven seater pa.

    You can also take a look at Montero Sport GLS SE 4x4 3.2 if you don't trust Koreans.

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    tipong gas fed ang gusto ng TS. subaru for me. even mag sedan ako in the future- will go for subaru

    at least may casa dito so depende na sa ingat kung magiging madalas ka dun

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    #8
    THINK FEEL DRIVE.

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    in your case the price offset won't be an issue here, get the rav4 more peace of mind to you the price offset of 100k you will regain it after 5 years when you're selling it...both are cbu from japan but practicality favor to rav4 (bigger engine but fc is comparable) if you just keep it for 5 years....goodluck bro...
    Last edited by saipeme; June 24th, 2009 at 04:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh888 View Post
    Hi fellow car lovers,

    Planning to buy a new car this week and need your input on this two cars. Which do you think is the better buy, in terms of durability, fuel consumption, Interior space and riding comfort, I plan to keep this car for at least 5 or more years. Love the subaru but am afraid of the availability of parts since there is only one distributor and I don't know if the parts are available from our friendly banawe store. As for the toyota i don't think that will be a problem. Help. TIA

    Josh

    Durability=Slight Forester Edge
    FC=tie
    Interior Space=Not sure but possibly slight RAV4 Edge
    Riding Comfort=Slight Forester Edge

    Subaru parts are NOT usually available in banawe but they ARE available. Meaning, kung replacement parts ang hanap mo, wala.

    Pero sa akin hindi disadvantage yun kasi it also means hindi kasing nakawin ang parts ko.

    Yun nga lang, ang RAV walang AWD (for 1.4 Mil!?), walang big-a$$ sun roof, at AFAIK walang 6 airbags. I guess you just have to weigh which are more important to you.

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    I own a 2.0 Forester & very happy with it. Just to give my 2-cents to help you with your decision:

    Forester

    Pros:

    • Lots of features for its price: AWD, 6-airbags, 6-disk changer, fog lamps, traction control, moonroof,etc - Essentially everything the Turbo version has except the Turbo engine & 17" mags.
    • FC - around 7.5 km/l city driving - not bad for an AWD/AT vehicle (Makati-QC) route. You're not tied down to 95 octane in this version.
    • Stylish & Newest of the pack of CUVs - it'll take some years before it gets dated by a newer model.
    • Performance - it runs fast & stable, doesn't have an impressive jump as the Turbo, but when you get to speed, you'll be one of the fastest on the SCTEX! It outdoes other CUVs in rough terrain (yeah I know about the endless CUV arguments about off-roading). Oh, try out the steering- it so easy to steer - lambut-lambut! My wife will have more muscles than me by year's end.

    Cons:

    • Maintenance - if the casa is not easy to access from your place, you may want to reconsider. Its definitely not a Banawe client & the casa will be your best bet to keeping it in top form (But as per owners, service is relatively good).
    • Re-sale - Well, this maybe from a historical point of view, CRVs & RAV4s have higher re-sale, but older Foresters were a bit more quirky, don't know if this plays a factor for 2nd hand buyers. This new one is better appealing to wider tastes.

    Now for the RAV4, I honestly can't elaborate as much as the Forester, I'll need the help of satisfied RAV4 owners to give their experiences... I did consider the RAV4 during my search, these are my personal reasons for not choosing it:

    • One of the oldest among the current gen CUVs - I have a Vios na nalaos ng newer version Vios, I didn't want the same thing happening to my CUV, haven't seen any new version RAV4 release but it's due for one in a couple of years - my guess.
    • A bit bare for its price - partly due to its age, when it first came out the CRV model it was pitted against was almost well - AUV-ish (I had the 2nd gen CRV) so it didn't need to spice up a lot to impress. Current gen CUVs have a lot of features packed in.

    As always, test drive first to get a feel for yourself between the cars, also consider your needs & wants, and of course... your budget!

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    #12
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4SN9tXvrRQ"]YouTube - 2009 Subaru Forester[/ame]
    This video is an eye opener with regards to the many merits of the Forester (over its competition).

    The current Rav4 has been in the market since Feb 2006. An all new body model is slated for 2011. See the difference bet. a 2006 and 2009 model in the pics below.

    For Php 1.4M, no MID on the Rav4.










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    I used to drive a WRX, so wife is a lil biased on subarus. Wife wants an 09 forester. While I like forester's styling, the 4EAT is a huge disappointment. Gee, it's 2009, cant subaru update to a 5EAT?? Wife will be waiting til next year to replace her car. We will not be considering the Forester unless 5EAT or 6CVT becomes available on that model. Currently, we have our sights set on the 2010 Outback.

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    having riden both, ill definitely go for the forester.

    It rides better, has more features (lots of toys inside) better interior plastics.

    Overall, it feels so much more expensive than the Rav 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayz_yummy View Post
    mas magaganda pang mga cSUV na yan than the hyped-RAV4 and CRV.
    The Toyota RAV4 has been particiating in dakar rally races since its first gen. so it has proven itself to be one capable offroader (actually most of the Toyota SUVs are participating). Subaru Forester first entered the competition in 2008. So these two are considered "real" compact sport utility vehicles, and not crossover utility vehicles.

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    well, WRC and dakkar cars are almost completely rebuilt, and you cannot get those extras on your standard, road going version...only the body you get....best example: is there a ford focus that has 4wd aside sa wrc cars? i'm talking about stock-to-stock, the ones you can get straight from the dealer's showroom.

    ok, kung may forester na nakapunta sa pinatubo and back... why not a rav4 owner risk it?

    eto gusto ko makitang comparo sa magazines: local awd/4wd cSUVs(outlander, vitara, xtrail, crv, forester, sta.fe, tucson, sportage, rav4, jimny) comparo:venue--pinatubo, along side with the LC40s there......light rain preferably. who's the most all-rounder?

    Quote Originally Posted by agent_ysann View Post
    The Toyota RAV4 has been particiating in dakar rally races since its first gen. so it has proven itself to be one capable offroader (actually most of the Toyota SUVs are participating). Subaru Forester first entered the competition in 2008. So these two are considered "real" compact sport utility vehicles, and not crossover utility vehicles.

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    #17
    Forester na, yun nga lang isa lang ang casa. yun rav4 naman mukhang overpriced.

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    basta toyota......at honda..overpriced...b-new or used..

    ngayon pati koreans(except ata ang ssangyong at chevy phils), nakiki-overprice din.

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooQRxlChvMw"]YouTube - Subaru AWD vs. competitors[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayz_yummy View Post
    well, WRC and dakkar cars are almost completely rebuilt, and you cannot get those extras on your standard, road going version...only the body you get....best example: is there a ford focus that has 4wd aside sa wrc cars? i'm talking about stock-to-stock, the ones you can get straight from the dealer's showroom.
    i know. i am just pointing out that RAV4 and Forester are "real" compact SUVs and are not just crossovers like the CR-V. i just mentioned the dakar rally because of the toughness and durability issue. just like the Pajero and Land Cruiser series, their durability have been tested in the said competition that's why people know they are tough, but they won't go offroading because they know they are equiped with stock suspensions and stock wheels. i have nothing against anything, just pointing out.peace

subaru Forester 2.0 2009 or Rav 4 4x2 2009