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    #41
    Quote Originally Posted by kimbon View Post
    OT lang - observation ko naman sa mga girl driver na marunong din sa MT, in general mas madiskarte magdrive sa daan pero kung A/T lang pa-bebe yan...

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    Tama tama. Pag marunong ng manual panay ang change gear e. Hahaha

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    #42
    Quote Originally Posted by jomskeet View Post
    I really want to drive a manual. Pero dahil sa mga suggestions na nabasa ko dito, parang ayaw ko na hahaha.

    Pero ang isa kasi sa iniisip ko, pag nasanay ako sa automatic, kahit marunong ako mag manual baka mahirapan na ko magdrive ng manual heheheh.
    try them both out, first.
    drive MT, and drive AT. then compare.
    some folks here prefer MT, even as they drive both AT and MT.
    as the long AT vs. MT thread says, "it's a personal choice".

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    I like the M/T better. It makes me feel in better control. But then again, there's no traffic on my route to and from work so I don't mind a manual. Another advantage, I let my battery die. Pag inabutan sa labas, push start na lang Then I go home and call motolite. Hehe.

    Kung traffic sa route mo, you might consider an AT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I like the M/T better. It makes me feel in better control. But then again, there's no traffic on my route to and from work so I don't mind a manual. Another advantage, I let my battery die. Pag inabutan sa labas, push start na lang Then I go home and call motolite. Hehe.

    Kung traffic sa route mo, you might consider an AT.
    right!
    i have not yet seen an AT or CVT that allows me the fingertip (o sige.. toe-tip) control offered by MT.
    that CVT over-ride.. "manu-matic" as others refer to it.. it's next to useless, in my opinion.. its effect is minimal, unless you aggressively push the pedal..
    pag AT ang dala ko, lagi akong "na-sisingitan.." dahil mahina ang acceleration..
    Last edited by dr. d; October 1st, 2015 at 11:41 AM.

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    #45
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    try them both out, first.
    drive MT, and drive AT. then compare.
    some folks here prefer MT, even as they drive both AT and MT.
    as the long AT vs. MT thread says, "it's a personal choice".
    isa ako dito.
    i prefer using the MT because of the control... maski trapik pa yan.
    kaya mas lagi kong gamit yung altis na MT ko, kesa dun sa MS ko na matic na pinapagamit ko kay misis.
    si misis naman, medyo matagal na nag drive, pero di talaga nya magamay ang MT....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    try them both out, first.
    drive MT, and drive AT. then compare.
    some folks here prefer MT, even as they drive both AT and MT.
    as the long AT vs. MT thread says, "it's a personal choice".
    isa ako dito.
    i prefer using the MT because of the control... maski trapik pa yan.
    kaya mas lagi kong gamit yung altis na MT ko, kesa dun sa MS ko na matic na pinapagamit ko kay misis.
    si misis naman, medyo matagal na nag drive, pero di talaga nya magamay ang MT....

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    #46
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
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    pag AT ang dala ko, lagi akong "na-sisingitan.." dahil mahina ang acceleration..
    Only true for CVTs and older 4 speed AT transmissions without manual mode. Most of the newer non-CVT automatics with manual mode are very good. In manual mode, upshift is very quick. Downshift not as fast, but fast enough as any decent manual driver. Can easily downshift if needed for that boost in acceleration. If you've ever tried a DCT, you'll be floored at how quick it shifts. That's why Porsches with PDK/DCT have ridiculous acceleration. They shift faster than a human possibly can.

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    #47
    Baka dumudulas na AT transmission nyo sir hehe.

    Yung 1997 EK civic namin dati hindi naman ganun...

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    Gandang ganda ako sa CVT ng Subaru. Was a non-believer before, but when I tried it, mas ok power delivery niya because of better ratios compared to a traditional AT. I drove the Forester 2.0 and CX-5 2.0. I thought the Forester would feel too heavy but it's actually the CX-5 that feels sluggish at 40-80 kph because of the long second gear.

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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Kestana View Post
    If you've ever tried a DCT, you'll be floored at how quick it shifts.
    Pair that DCT with a turbo and you'll smile how quickly it shifts. Problem though is that DCT is clanky in low crawling traffic, conditions where you switch constantly between 1st and 2nd gears. On a straight though, once it gets into into 3rd gear and with continuous gas input, 4th & 5th gears passes quickly and you're already on 6th gear.

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    #50
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I like the M/T better. It makes me feel in better control. But then again, there's no traffic on my route to and from work so I don't mind a manual. Another advantage, I let my battery die. Pag inabutan sa labas, push start na lang Then I go home and call motolite. Hehe.
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    newbie question here. di ba ang term ng push start ay pag start ng engine na hindi na "pinapasok" ang key sa ignition switch at kadyot naman ang tawag to re-start ang engine pag dead batt na???

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    #51
    Quote Originally Posted by kimbon View Post
    newbie question here. di ba ang term ng push start ay pag start ng engine na hindi na "pinapasok" ang key sa ignition switch at kadyot naman ang tawag to re-start ang engine pag dead batt na???
    Ganun ba? Basta pag na dead batt ako, nagpapatulong ako itulak yung auto. On ko ignition. Lagay ko sa second gear, tapos apak clutch at gas, pag naramdaman ko na engine, press sa gas, release ng clutch, start engine. Basta mabilisan haha.

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    #52
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Ganun ba? Basta pag na dead batt ako, nagpapatulong ako itulak yung auto. On ko ignition. Lagay ko sa second gear, tapos apak clutch at gas, pag naramdaman ko na engine, press sa gas, release ng clutch, start engine. Basta mabilisan haha.
    Simula non nabasa ko un jumper cable story ni lsb, naappreciate ko lalo ang AT cars hahahah

    On topic, just make sure you know how to drive a MT. Matatantya mo naman during driving lesson kung mas pabor ka sa AT or MT. Sabihin mo sa instructor idaan ka sa traffic heheh. Parang mas ok minsan un MT para parehong binti ang masakit, hindi lang kanan pag AT haha

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    #53
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Ganun ba? Basta pag na dead batt ako, nagpapatulong ako itulak yung auto. On ko ignition. Lagay ko sa second gear, tapos apak clutch at gas, pag naramdaman ko na engine, press sa gas, release ng clutch, start engine. Basta mabilisan haha.
    Jump start ang tawag

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    #54
    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    Baka dumudulas na AT transmission nyo sir hehe.

    Yung 1997 EK civic namin dati hindi naman ganun...
    between dumudulas and older cvt...
    older cvt na lang siguro ang excuse ko!
    heh heh.

    jump start or push start?
    jump start... needs jumper cables.
    push start.. needs pushers!
    heh heh.. couldn't resist.
    Last edited by dr. d; October 1st, 2015 at 05:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kestana View Post
    Only true for CVTs and older 4 speed AT transmissions without manual mode. Most of the newer non-CVT automatics with manual mode are very good. In manual mode, upshift is very quick. Downshift not as fast, but fast enough as any decent manual driver. Can easily downshift if needed for that boost in acceleration. If you've ever tried a DCT, you'll be floored at how quick it shifts. That's why Porsches with PDK/DCT have ridiculous acceleration. They shift faster than a human possibly can.
    i haven't driven a porsche AT lately.. do they still use fluid interface? how did they get over the slip inherent in the traditional fluid interface?

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    #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Calistro View Post

    On topic, just make sure you know how to drive a MT. Matatantya mo naman during driving lesson kung mas pabor ka sa AT or MT. Sabihin mo sa instructor idaan ka sa traffic heheh. Parang mas ok minsan un MT para parehong binti ang masakit, hindi lang kanan pag AT haha
    nice one

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i haven't driven a porsche AT lately.. do they still use fluid interface? how did they get over the slip inherent in the traditional fluid interface?
    oh! dct! i didn't notice...
    ..have to change glasses na yata..
    sorry.



    but... that's a far cry from what the more affordable city and altis AT/CVTs have..
    still.. technology advances..
    Last edited by dr. d; October 1st, 2015 at 07:48 PM.

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    #58
    Naging MT vs AT na talaga tong thread na to bwahahah. Parang Altis na ang kukuhanin ko =)

    Pero ang dilemma ko naman na ngayon ay MT vs CVT! Not yet driven AT that's why di ako makapag decide! Tsaka ang Altis 1.6 G CVT ay lampas na sa budget, budget limit ko di lalampas ng 900k e =(

    Thanks sa inyo lahat mga ma'am sir!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jomskeet View Post
    Naging MT vs AT na talaga tong thread na to bwahahah. Parang Altis na ang kukuhanin ko =)

    Pero ang dilemma ko naman na ngayon ay MT vs CVT! Not yet driven AT that's why di ako makapag decide! Tsaka ang Altis 1.6 G CVT ay lampas na sa budget, budget limit ko di lalampas ng 900k e =(

    Thanks sa inyo lahat mga ma'am sir!!
    I'll play devil's advocate: Mazda 3 Maxx at 899K Php. 1.6 engine with 6 speed automatic with tiptronic/manual mode. May 3 years of free maintenance pa yan. Yes, 3 years. :devil:

    This is what this trim level looks like:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kestana View Post
    I'll play devil's advocate: Mazda 3 Maxx at 899K Php. 1.6 engine with 6 speed automatic with tiptronic/manual mode. May 3 years of free maintenance pa yan. Yes, 3 years. :devil:

    This is what this trim level looks like:
    that "free" maintenance was built into the price.
    heh heh.

    but i know what you mean.. hassle-free trips to the casa for pms.. every little bit of convenience, builds customer satisfaction..

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