Pajero Fieldmaster or Altis/Civic for a Second Car

[nelany]

If mabagal na ang acceleration mo from 0-60 out of tune na yung FM ng tatay mo. Hindi mura ang maintenance ng FM so need to put this into account.

[andrew_28]

go ako sa FM sir. isa sa mga oto na hindi bumababa ang presyo ang FM. medyo kontradikting lang ang mga comment dito sa nabasa ko sa comment ni sir Emong regarding sa FM niya. ang maganda lang sa FM kapag may nasira kapag napalitan aabutin na ng ilang taon bago ipagawa ulit. hindi katulad sa kotse minsan wala pang isang taon ipapagawa mo na ulit.
Ang maganda pa sa diesel palit langis lang at mga filter regularly tatagal ang pagsasama niyo.

[Mikemike07]

If mabagal na ang acceleration mo from 0-60 out of tune na yung FM ng tatay mo. Hindi mura ang maintenance ng FM so need to put this into account.

Mabagal lang compared to compacts sedans sir that ive used (2 lancers and 2 civics). I think for an SUV its just right. Nagbreakdown na yung turbo namin dati. So i know how slow it would be without it functioning properly. Aside from the turbo ang naging problema lang namin yung aircon. Actually hanggang ngayon problema pa rin yung aircon. Di siguro magaling yung nagseservice sa amin.

Add ko lang. Maganda rin yung paint quality ng Pajero. Di pa rin kupas after all these years. Kulay talong yung amin. Pagnakakakita ako ng white na FM napopogian pa rin ako sobra. Masmalakas dating ng pajero sakin compared to fortuner and montero.

[GTi]

Ang maganda sa Pajero, old school diesel siya. Walang sensitive electronic parts na pwede masira. Unlike old commonrail diesels, there aren't failing ultra expensive high pressure injectors to worry about. Kayang ayusin kahit nung talyer sa kanto. Suspension parts and tires may be quite expensive, but they last really long. The only thing expensive that might prematurely fail is the turbo. But even then, surplus turbos aren't really that expensive, especially for a popular engine like this.

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[jodski]

Ang maganda sa Pajero, old school diesel siya. Walang sensitive electronic parts na pwede masira. Unlike old commonrail diesels, there aren't failing ultra expensive high pressure injectors to worry about. Kayang ayusin kahit nung talyer sa kanto. Suspension parts and tires may be quite expensive, but they last really long. The only thing expensive that might prematurely fail is the turbo. But even then, surplus turbos aren't really that expensive, especially for a popular engine like this.

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Yeah... Tires pa lang nyan starts at 8K a piece

Dapat medyo masipag ka rin ipa greasing yung mga joints nyan

[nelany]

Yeah... Tires pa lang nyan starts at 8K a piece

Dapat medyo masipag ka rin ipa greasing yung mga joints nyan

Isama mo pa yung shock niya na ~8k a pc.

[vinj]

Hindi mura ang maintenance ng FM so need to put this into account.

You have one so you would know... So why is it other people are saying na mura and practical ang FM na second hand for a daily driver? Oil filter pa lang na OEM you're already spending more than half of what a full oil change for a Vios, Corolla or Jazz would cost. I've been there and done that with a lot of second hand cars (Jap, American and EU) and i would only recommend it if you're going to have it as a secondary car at first as you will need time and effort to get it running in top shape (in most cases, unless you get one from an owner who really paid attention to maintenance... but usually those guys rarely sell their units if you ask me). If the primary reason for buying a car is practicality and frugality for the daily grind, get latest model compact or sub-compact if possible.

The only thing expensive that might prematurely fail is the turbo. But even then, surplus turbos aren't really that expensive, especially for a popular engine like this.

How much now ang surplus turbo ng 4M40?

[testament11]

wala namang black smoke. well maintained din naman kasi. automatic yung pajero namin. ang bagal kasi talaga. if i drive the way i drive my car (sa tatay ko kasi yung pajero) 2.5k rpm max malalate lang ako. ang bagal kasi ng acceleration from 0-60. so i cruise at 3k pagkanakapickup na sa speed.

Uy, mataas ang 3k RPM ah. Cruising RPM ko lang eh 2k lang ang max. May problema yan gaya ng sabi ni Nelany.

If the TS will get the FM, double check lang. Usually ball joints, tie rods ang problema ng 2nd hand. Yun FM namin ganyan problema nung nakuha namin. Mga 4k din ata nagastos ko sa repair lang ng ball joints at palit brake master. OEM naman din pinalit ko at maganda ang OEM parts ng FM. Make sure din na ok pa yun kapal ng goma ng kukuning FM kasi gaya nga ng sabi, 8k din ang isang gulong at usually H/T thread pa yan. Kung A/T thread, mga 9 to 10k ang isa, with the exception of Cooper tires

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[nelany]

If in tip top condition and properly tuned ang makina ng FM mo yung acceleration niya ay comparable sa sedan. Hindi ka maiiwanan basta basta.

I think nabigay na yung pros and cons sa pinipiling sasakyan so decision nalang.

[Mikemike07]

If in tip top condition and properly tuned ang makina ng FM mo yung acceleration niya ay comparable sa sedan. Hindi ka maiiwanan basta basta.

I think nabigay na yung pros and cons sa pinipiling sasakyan so decision nalang.

Out of curiosity ginoogle ko gano katagal 0-100 sprint ng pajero. Eh nasa 20 seconds pala. Unlike yung mga montero/fortuner ngayon na talagang nakakasabay sa mga sedan. The lancer only takes 11.6 seconds 0-100 so i guess reasonable naman why i feel that it is sluggish. Ang mga naging cars ko kasi are all compacts which take less than 12secs to for 0-100.

Anyways back to topic. Pajero if you need the space and the novelty of owning one. Altis/civic if otherwise. Cheaper to maintain pa. Since parang nabasa ko dito na crv na ang car mo. The logical choice would be the compact cars.

[Brennt]

ayaw mo ng innova pre? medyo nasa 2008 na makukuha mo sa 500k budget.. diesel pa ;)

[lakarz_16]

Fieldmaster for me. Heavy duty and madami parts.

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[d_mac]

Parejo Fieldmaster, hanap ka mga 2003-2005. May binebenta sa sulit.com - may blue na mala-sariwa 2.8-litre 4M40 4x4, at manual-tranny pa akong nakita. Mas maganda kung mahabol mo chief.... Ang may ari ay nasa Canada na daw at binebenta ng mga PhP550k yata. Just swing-in a li'l bit more kung hindi negotiable. Palitan mo lang din ng magandang canvas cover ang mga leather seat cover niya na tingin ko may parang bitak na, dahil nga sa init sa Pinas, then you're good to go ;)

Medyo mausok lang ang FM lalo pag binira, sa akyatan at sa medyo hataw, pero ubod ng guapo pa rin na typical "boxy-type" SUV na may "hood-scoop" or "bonnet-scoop" pa.... Yan ang pinaka-magandang Pajero na sana di na pinalitan ng Mitsu ang design hehe....

....Or, wildcard choice, look for any Toyota Innova 2.5 D-4D around around that price range na you mention chief kung diesel-fed ang unang choice mo chief.

Cheers!

[coltfortyfive]

Parejo Fieldmaster, hanap ka mga 2003-2005. May binebenta sa sulit.com - may blue na mala-sariwa 2.8-litre 4M40 4x4, at manual-tranny pa akong nakita. Mas maganda kung mahabol mo chief.... Ang may ari ay nasa Canada na daw at binebenta ng mga PhP550k yata. Just swing-in a li'l bit more kung hindi negotiable. Palitan mo lang din ng magandang canvas cover ang mga leather seat cover niya na tingin ko may parang bitak na, dahil nga sa init sa Pinas, then you're good to go ;)

Medyo mausok lang ang FM lalo pag binira, sa akyatan at sa medyo hataw, pero ubod ng guapo pa rin na typical "boxy-type" SUV na may "hood-scoop" or "bonnet-scoop" pa.... Yan ang pinaka-magandang Pajero na sana di na pinalitan ng Mitsu ang design hehe....

....Or, wildcard choice, look for any Toyota Innova 2.5 D-4D around around that price range na you mention chief kung diesel-fed ang unang choice mo chief.

Cheers!

Go for the field master. Di ka magsisisi. I recently bought my FM 98 model 4x4 manual at 370k. Kulay puti at ang porma tingnan. Classic talaga.
Hanap ka lng ng mababang odo at well maintained. Madami din spares available.
Your FC depends on how you use your car. Never exceed 2,800 rpm on highway. From Manila to Baguio FC ko is 9km/ltr. Not bad for a big car. Wala pa akong kaba sa floods in Manila.