Pajero 2003 or isuzu trooper, which is better??

[jay crew]

yung bagong paj mga next year pa yan,i think ganun pa rin makina nyan yung 2.8 parin,if i were u bili ka nalang ng imported na paj para gas na ,baka di ka na ibitin nun,and yung bagong paj is woth the wait

[mbt]

litoh,

mukhang matagal-tagal pa darating yung gen3 pajero dito, and there's no guarantee right now na 4m41 ilalagay dun, or kung 4wd siya. pwedeng 4m40 pa rin yung i-offer dito, since that engine fits in the gen3 chassis

[lui]

pajero nalang.. aanin mo power ng mkina e lagi nmang TRAFFIC... sagwa ng rear a/c nung trooper e... mtaas pa resale ng pajero kesa trooper... may gps na dn 4 aded security...

sarap maging ganyan ang problema:lol:

[pajerokid]

dude, if you thing the current Paj blows the trooper away in terms of styling, wait till you see the gen3. (Of course we do have to look at the next Trooper :D ) On whether or not the 4M41 is gonna be released here..... well.......... we can always hope, right? :wink: But if ever, it will definitely be worth the wait. Actually, some magazines recommend this over the gas engine because of the flat powerband!

Mahal pa mga grey Gen3s..... Mga 2.7M to 3.1M 4x4 3.5Gas. Thats the price of being first. :D

On engine power, ako i actually get around with 99hp :lol::lol::lol: Alis na lang ako maaga hehehee :D :D :D

But seriously, between the Gen2.5 Paj and the Current Trooper. Trooper. (Unless you have access to a Paje w/ the 3.5GDI Gas engine hehehe. )

On reviews, i dont think anyone here has a gen3. just open google.com and type "pajero review" :D

[OTEP]

Some thoughtful Pajero details:

*You can step on BOTH the front and rear bumpers. You can even take out the top half of the front bumper's center section to make stepping on it even easier.
*The power antenna can be lowered via a dash mounted switch.
*You can fold down the 2nd row seats without having to remove the headrests and without the need for straps to secure it in the folded position.
*The rear a/c can be controlled from the driver's seat and each outboard rear reat gets its own air duct neatly integrated into the headliner.
*There is a rear door mounted toolkit with a battery operated flashlight.
*There is magnetic flashlight in the luggage compartment. It can be powered by any of the Pajero's three power outlets.
*Numerous assist grips in the cabin.
*Good pedal spacing (I have wide feet).
*A dead pedal (footrest) made out of hard plastic so you can still step on it even with muddy shoes.
*Rear axle has a breather extension up to the chassis crossmember.
*Fully boxed ladder frame (hindi C-shaped).

Marami pa iyan, eh...

[pajerokid]

deym!!!!!! wala ako nung flashlight! :mrgreen: Arbor na lang yung sayo Otep!!! :mrgreen:

[marshall]

the pajero is really a comfortable ride comparing it to the isuzu, when i rode one, the difference is not major. i'd say isuzu wins by 10 - 15%. on looks pajero wins, power hands down to the trooper, interior accessories almost equal, resale value pajero gets a thumbs up.

overall the determinant is preference.

the Gen3 pajero has been out abroad for a long time already but since the current model is still selling like pancakes we have to wait (why not set a boycott :D).

[litoh]

i herad that isuzu japan is already bankrupt ( news from a japanese friend on vacation here) any facts to this?? will it affect the current one in terms of parts and accessories

:roll:

[mbt]

i think it's been confirmed that there will be no new Trooper worldwide. in the US, the Ascender based on the GMC Envoy SUV has replaced the Trooper as Isuzu north america's flagship

[pajerokid]

thats bad news for Isuzu fans............... :|

[litoh]

:mrgreen:

I am planning to get a japanese converted pajero 2.8 1995 model sa japan o 1999 dito. what say nyo? I brought along a mechanic and he said that the engine is still good, 111,000 km na bago pa ang tires at mags, slightly scratched sides, bull bar with 2 big(8 inch) fog lights, ladder and tire case cover na bakal yung side tapos hars plastic yung gitna. madumi lang ang luob pero workable. :?:

comments please bilis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gusto ko rin sana pa buff at retouch yung mga gasgas,
lagyang ng fake wood paneling,
palinis ng luob, seats, floor, dashboard retouch,
saan magaling at bagkano??????? :?:
:lol:

[GlennSter]

how much mo bibilin!~?

wag ka magmadali chong....baka pagsisihan mo.

[marshall]

i have a friend that knows a mechanic that does conversion. basically, he said that even though how good the conversion is there is still that factor that being converted that it has problems. something worth thinking or taking into consideration. i would personally get a pajero here.

[boybi]

yung friend ko, bumili ng trooper/big horn sa subic, so converted sya. it took him 4-5 na atras/abante para magbwelta (tama ba spelling?) sa road sa labas ng haus namin. e yung patrol ko, 2-3 lang kuha na.

[pajerokid]

my unsolicited opinion: DONT BUY CONVERTED! :wink:

[litoh]

is it reallly that bad?
:roll:

[boybi]

is it reallly that bad?
:roll:

yung friend kong bumili ng big horn, meron din converted na LC80. sariwang sariwa pa ang body, one time while driving along the highway, nag-break sya para may iwasan (don't know kung what), hindi daw nya gaano na-control yung steering wheel, ayun, bumangga ata sya sa puno. very shocked daw yung 2 nyang kasama.

[pajerokid]

ser litoh::: i have personally taken a Pajero J-Top for a test drive. Ganda ng porma from the outside, but the one ive driven seems to have a steering bias. di po pantay liko. All the proof i need however, is the sheer number of privately owned converted "for sale" units by owners who are not into the buy and sell trade. I think its been discussed already somewhere in this forum. If you buy converted, expect to pay around 100k more for repairs. And then again, thats still no guarantee na di kayo bibigyan ng sakit ng ulo later on.

Goodluck sir and happy hunting. :D

[mbt]

sa akin lang, as with pajerokid, i'll never consider owning/driving a converted RHD vehicle

[ming999]

as for me....... Pajero has the looks but trooper has the power.:|