Hyundai starex 2.5 CRDi vs Nissan Escapade 3.0

[Silverwrench]

my dad and i are looking for the best Family hauler for 12 person. medyo di nya kasi gusto interior ng '06 HI-ACE. kaya were choosing between this two.
were looking for Power, RIDE and good maintenace.

[rayban7g]

More space = Escapade ...pasok ang dose dyan!.. yun nga lang less power than the new Starex.

fair space (for max of 10+/-), power & torque = Starex.. of course, CRDi w/ turbo, 145ps, 320+NM of hatak!!! ..definitely, my choice! panalo saken 'to!

maintenance?? ...nasa sa inyo yan bro,.. depende sa pag-aalaga! ..piyesa siguro, not sure pero pareho lang siguro,.. I think!

[OTEP]

Nissan Urvan Grand Estate ata yung 3.0 (non-turbo version ng ZD30 of the Nissan Patrol). Nissan Urvan Escapade yung old school van still powered by the TD27 2.7 diesel (also used on the Nissan Frontier).

Urvan Escapade:


Urvan Grand Estate:


Rear passenger comfort, hands down sa Nissan Grand Estate. Parang Victory Liner ang likod niyan, eh. The a/c system also has individual roof vents for passengers up to the last row.

Though not as spacious, the Starex can hold its own. It has better interior appointments including built in cupholders, flourescent cabin lighting with dim and mood settings, hard plastic sidings (not pressed vinyl as on the Urvan), easy clean flooring, front/rear cabin heater (great for Baguio, Tagaytay, etc.). Seats also feature more adjustments including split folding fro the rear seats (allows flexible passenger/luggage arrangements) and three point ELR seatbelts for all outboard rear passengers.

The CRDi Starex also makes more power than either Urvans. ABS/Airbag are available as options. The Starex is more car like in driving position and dynamics than the buslike Urvans.

But for the Php1.5M they're selling Grand Estates, I'd rather just add a little more cash and drive home a Grandia which already has ABS and Airbags (none of the Urvans has these features).

[OTEP]

Starex:


New instrument panel:

[IMm29]

I'd go with the 12 seater Starex CRDi. It's got loads of power and torque, the ride is comfy and, with HARI around, there are alot of Hyundai service centers and parts going around.

[cocoy]

yup id go for the starex 12 seater too.i own 9 seater starex so i think its a good deal. plus if u buy it at HARI, u get the warranty. but if u realy want a big van asked toyota if they are planning to bring the bigger versions of the hiace hir. the ones with high roof and slightly longer than the grandia. they have lots of them in thailand. used for tourist shuttle.i think it seats 15 COMFORTABLY. meaning u dnt have to have ur knees up to ur chin. hehhe if u no wat i mean.

[alwayz_yummy]

un ung "jumbo" starex na may 2-door na tailgate?

sir cocoy, un ang gusto kong hi-ace: ung extra-high roof..pero ung di long wheel base...

un service namin sa thailand ganun...LWB na extra high roof..

ung sa atin dito is the standard roof, ung mid-roof ung katulad sa grandia na bago, ung high roof ung nakikita sa JDM hiace na may 3-sunroof...ung extra high-roof, pwede ka maglakad ng halos straight sa loob!

[finchy18]

Nissan para sakin.

StareX underpowered yan.

[vinj]

If you don't like the interior of the Hiace, Seat Mate does interior conversions for it. ;)

[yebo]

ang nasa isip yata ni finchy yung old starex. meron na crdi starex, 145hp/320N-m torque. yung urvan 105hp/213N-m torque.

[OTEP]

Tama si Yebo, malayong mas malakas Starex sa Urvan. Escapade is around 70bhp only, Grand Estate is 105 bhp. Taob pareho sa CRDi powerhouse ng Starex.

[totoybato]

baka nasa isip niya yung lumang starex,

[cocoy]

ah ok. for me lang i like the new look hiace with the high roof and long wheelbase. i guess dats just me. i dnt no y they dnt hav them available hir. oh and ya the starex has definetly more power than the urvan,or estate evn my non CRDi starex is faster.belive me when i say that.

[yebo]

OT: bawal daw mag-post dito ng style sms/text. spell the words fully kasi meron mga nag-complain before na mahirap basahin.

[IMm29]

I think even the TDIC (pre CRDi) Starex, for as long as it's a manual, can match up with the manual Urvan. Anyhow, the CRDi Starex is a totally different story, giving some large diesel SUVs problems on the open road.

As regards the Grandia, heard from an owner that his unit, despite its size, was fun to drive up north. They went up to Baguio, and further north to Ilocos and according to him, despite the full load and the size, it did not miss a step. It's only available with a manual tranny tho, so city driving is probably another story.

[OTEP]

The verticle tailgate is a Korean-market option. Lift up tailgates come standard on all Starex passenger vans.

[cocoy]

i am so sorry for the text type writing. so i guess we will have to use proper grammar and spellings too? il try my best to type properly.

[OTEP]

It's ok. No problemo.

[megatron]

my uncle owns a 9 seater starex crdi. power-wise, it was impressive. you could make the entire cabin buckle like a horse if you wanted to. on the other hand, in terms of suspension, we both noticed that the starex had a little too much "play", or it had that extra "rocking motion". when he had it brought in the casa for fixing, almost all the other owners were complaining of the same thing... their suspension had too much play and caused some discomfort for the passengers. he had already changed his shocks and stabilizers in his less than 1 year starex.

as for the urvan escapade, i also rode this too for a few days in the province. if your not picky about looks, the typical van ride, and the no-nonsense people carrier, this is a no brainer. but in case you are, just remember this model has been on the market for quite some time. i believe only the mitsubishi L300 outdates this one. its very bare and plain. power wise...lets not even touch that topic. it roars, but the pull is hardly felt. its a very antiquated hunk of metal to me.

i'm interested in this topic because i'm looking for a family van myself. on top of my list right now is the GL grandia of TOYOTA. but i'm waiting just a few more months coz they will be coming out with a SUPER GRANDIA before the 3rd quarter of this year. so i'm keeping my fingers crossed.

[IMm29]

megatron,
i noticed the same thing about the new starex. the suspension seems to be too soft, giving you a boat ride. reminds me of my '99 Exped XLT. perhaps you can try sourcing aftermarket shocks/springs from bilstein or the like to stabilize the ride a bit.

as regards the Super Grandia, i sure hope the amenities/features will justify the price. the GL Grandia is already 1.3M+. i wonder how much the Super will go for.