new top of the line vios leather 1.5 a/t or civic 1.8v a/t

[rv]

mga bro,

i'm torn between the 2 cars. both are nearly identical in price. which would you get?

[niky]

Durh. Civic. Better engine. Better transmission (though it's still sluggish compared to the MT).

If it's the Vios 1.5 MT... it's a bargain for the space and performance, but if it's the AT... Toyota's ATs suck.

[mazdamazda]

Civic!

If you can stretch your budget by a bit, get the Civic 1.8S A/T instead.

[BlueBimmer]

dali lang malaos ang sedan....(sabi nung isang tehmod)

kaya outlander nalang


civic hehe

[baludoy]

but if it's the AT... Toyota's ATs suck.

i've heard this comment more than once already. so i'd like to ask, what's wrong w/ the a/t systems of toyota bos?

btw, i'd go w/ the civic on this one. definitely more bang for the buck

magkano na nga ba presyo nilang dalawa ngayon?

[niky]

4 speeds only, long ratios (which means slower acceleration in traffic), sluggish response (which means you have to hit the gas pedal harder to make it downshift), and a traditional torque converter (as opposed to the Honda City's CVT, which is lighter, thus saving you fuel and incurring less power transmission loss).

What's sad is that Toyota has great engine technology. They match or nearly match Hondas for specific power output while nearly always having more torque. They're also very fuel efficient, like Hondas.

I don't recommend Toyota automatics, simply because it's a waste of a great engine.

[pup2]

Civic na. Same price, bigger space/engine, better tranny. Pero kung ako, MT kukunin ko.

[rv]

hmm...still undecided till i see the vios up close. the vios comes with all the bells and whistle kasi. plus its easier to maintain (cheaper parts) and its more fuel efficient. plus toyota reliability pa. then again civic looks so good! spacious pa plus that engine! i'm confused (vios 811k civic 817k)

[EuroFD]

The Civic has a larger space, longer service intervals (every 10Tkms), and awarded Car of the Year twice. But the more economical choice is the Vios.

[Lucius]

Civic. Why think twice of the parts, di naman kagad masisira yan. Ingat lang and matagal ka pa magpapalit. Dun ka nga sa mura ung parts, parang nagsisisi ka naman all along pag nakikita and dinadrive mo na hehehehe

[number001]

Vios
1.3J - 575K
1.3E - 649K
1.5G MT - 730K
1.5G AT - 765K
1.5G A/T leather - Php 811K

Civic 1.8 V MT PHP 777,000.00
Civic 1.8 V AT PHP 817,000.00
Civic 1.8 S MT PHP 849,000.00
Civic 1.8 S AT PHP 884,000.00


Civic 1.8. Get the "S" , which gives you the important safety features, that is if you want to stretch the budget.

***

Fuel Mileage (as per motioncars)

Vios 1.5G A/T (prev. gen, but it is still the same 1NZ-FE engine) - 15.34 Km/li (also take note, the new Vios has a bigger (and heavier)body so expect the numbers to be a little lower).

Civic 1.8S A/T - 12.31 Km/li

The Vios wins but not with such a big margin over the Civic and to think the Civic has a 1.8li engine and bigger (and heavier body) vehicle.

***

Re: parts.

You really dont have to worry about any parts changes until you hit around 40,000 Kms, when things like brake pads need to be replaced, rack boot repacked, and so on...

Re: Toyota reliability.

I guess both brands are quite close in terms of reliability. I have owned a EG and EK Civics, both which remained very reliable and trouble-free till they were sold off. I think you need to watch for the build quality of the Civics here bec. the Sta Rosa plant is known for its substandard quality output. I dont if they have solved the defective driver's side power window and the noisy engine support. Also noticed a Civic in the showroom with bad paint. I dont know if its just a unique case, a one-off or something.

[ozcity]

afaik the only thing that they upgraded with the 1nzfe is the EPS
and it has 4 wheel disc brake already.. still ill pick city a/t over the new vios/yaris

1.8S M/T civic for me..

[restituto]

Civic! simply a notch higher and classier than vios- ninja turtle look. Pagdating ng panahon maging lagam naman yang bagong vios (taxi) sa daan.
Sa toyota..Altis ang ka level ng Civic hindi ang Vios.

[tebs]

civic, M/T na lang na 1.8S

[rv]

my budget is up to a civic a/t v lang. i still have to consider chatel mortgage, insurance and registration plus i'll be financing it for 4yrs. mahal! don't like manual bec of the traffic. any idea when the new vios hits the show room? and btw plus points for the vios coz it has the feel and smell of leather! fantastic!

[number001]

The new Vios will debut in "The First Philippine International Motorshow" at the World Trade Center, August 9-12.

Btw, I used to be a leather upholstery fan ten years when the only Japanese sedans that had OEM leather were the '96 Honda Accord 2.2 VTi or the Lancer (pizza pie) MX Invecs. Later realized that leather is truly hot to sit on after leaving the car in outside. Leather needs constant attention and maintenance, otherwise it would deteriorate quickly. As it ages, there would line, indents, or cracks, etc...and for some reason it turns shiny and discolored over time.

[niky]

If you're buying an automatic for practical reasons, buy a City 1.3 or a City 1.5. Once you've had the CVT a while, you'll wonder why you even considered a traditional automatic.

And no, the current City doesn't look like an "ipis" any more than the current Vios does. The current Vios has the same "huge face" problem that the Civic does and that the previous City did (but the current one corrected) and it has proportions that are similar to the City's, and not much like the previous "***y" Vios.

[rv]

The new Vios will debut in "The First Philippine International Motorshow" at the World Trade Center, August 9-12.

Btw, I used to be a leather upholstery fan ten years when the only Japanese sedans that had OEM leather were the '96 Honda Accord 2.2 VTi or the Lancer (pizza pie) MX Invecs. Later realized that leather is truly hot to sit on after leaving the car in outside. Leather needs constant attention and maintenance, otherwise it would deteriorate quickly. As it ages, there would line, indents, or cracks, etc...and for some reason it turns shiny and discolored over time.

really? all the while i thought leather is cooler and more durable. btw, i plan to keep the car for the next 10yrs. thats why it has to be durable. i think this is where toyota has an edge. thats just my opinion

[BlueBimmer]

ayoko lang sa civic is the gigantor like dashboard, di talaga makita hood..pero very roomy and airy

[a4Tech]

Vios
1.3J - 575K
1.3E - 649K
1.5G MT - 730K
1.5G AT - 765K
1.5G A/T leather - Php 811K

Civic 1.8 V MT PHP 777,000.00
Civic 1.8 V AT PHP 817,000.00
Civic 1.8 S MT PHP 849,000.00
Civic 1.8 S AT PHP 884,000.00


Civic 1.8. Get the "S" , which gives you the important safety features, that is if you want to stretch the budget.

***

Fuel Mileage (as per motioncars)

Vios 1.5G A/T (prev. gen, but it is still the same 1NZ-FE engine) - 15.34 Km/li (also take note, the new Vios has a bigger (and heavier)body so expect the numbers to be a little lower).

Civic 1.8S A/T - 12.31 Km/li

The Vios wins but not with such a big margin over the Civic and to think the Civic has a 1.8li engine and bigger (and heavier body) vehicle.

***

Re: parts.

You really dont have to worry about any parts changes until you hit around 40,000 Kms, when things like brake pads need to be replaced, rack boot repacked, and so on...

Re: Toyota reliability.

I guess both brands are quite close in terms of reliability. I have owned a EG and EK Civics, both which remained very reliable and trouble-free till they were sold off. I think you need to watch for the build quality of the Civics here bec. the Sta Rosa plant is known for its substandard quality output. I dont if they have solved the defective driver's side power window and the noisy engine support. Also noticed a Civic in the showroom with bad paint. I dont know if its just a unique case, a one-off or something.

I saw one too. Sa Shaw yung 1.8S na habanero red. May chip yung paint sa may rear bumper.