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    #1
    Hi,

    We will be replacing my wife's Swift M/T with any of the three M/T. Which do you think is the best? My wife will be using it daily Pque-Makati, and my wife prefer M/T and I also want M/T as my other car is A/T. I asked my wife, regarding just looks, best for her is Cruze, but we haven't seen the Focus in Flesh.

    With the three, what will you choose? Normal points to consider:

    1. Looks
    2. Fuel Consumption
    3. Maintenance Cost
    4. Interior Space
    5. Trunk Space
    6. Engine Response

    Thanks
    Charles

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    Personally, I'd go for the Cruze LS.

    However, given your criteria, it seems that the Lancer EX GLX is the best fit for you.

    1. Looks - it doesn't look good for me, but it might look good for you.

    2. Fuel consumption - being a 1.6, it's categorically more fuel efficient than the Cruze. Should be roughly the same as the Focus (since that uses a slightly retuned Fiesta engine).

    4. Interior Space - The Lancer and Cruze are both huge inside, but the Focus is just so-so.

    5. Trunk Space - The Focus has the largest trunk among the 3. Not only is it the deepest, but the wheel wells don't get in the way, unlike in the Lancer and Cruze.
    Last edited by jut703; September 2nd, 2012 at 02:01 AM.

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    Thanks for the reply. Can I add Resale Value? Which is better? And what my wife don't like with the Lance is it don't have audio controls in steering wheel, nasanay sya sa swift nya eh.. and also for the addons/gadgets, sino mas ok?

    Thanks again.

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    I'll pick lancer. Mas pasok sa requirements mo. I think mas may resale value to, compared to others. In features and gadgets, i think mas lamang focus

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    Lancer:
    - No fog lamps
    - No parking sensors
    - Steering wheel doesn't have telescopic adjustment (tilt only)
    - No steering wheel audio controls
    - Has an 8" LCD head unit that plays DVDs and also has Bluetooth connectivity
    - Cheapest of the bunch at 825k

    Focus:
    - Steel rims w/ hubcap (!)
    - No parking sensors
    - No ABD
    - No fog lamps
    - Tilt/telescopic steering wheel adjustment
    - Has steering wheel audio controls
    - Newest among the 3, priced at 858k

    Cruze:
    - Has a rear backup camera
    - Has front and rear fog lamps
    - Tilt/telescopic steering wheel adjustment
    - Has audio controls on the steering wheel
    - Most expensive at 929k
    Last edited by jut703; September 2nd, 2012 at 02:31 AM.

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    Cruze pa rin ako. But the Lancer is the most practical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    Cruze pa rin ako. But the Lancer is the most practical.

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    Agree ako diyan . . . If you can get past the branding issue, mas macho at mas malaki ang cruze ... Not sure about durability and fuel consumption though ...

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    I'd rather get the Cruze. Better built and more throttle-responsive than the Lancer and the Focus.

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    Guys,

    Looks like we are leaning over Lancer, Diba ung Lancer GLX, projector type na Headlight kaya lang dipa HID? Tama ba? Kasi I will upgrade to HID kung sakali.. and add ko rin ng Fog lamps.. un siguro kulang.. We visited Ford, Chevy and Mitsu dealers unfortunately, we are not able to find display any of these MT variants, even the GLX AT sana, kasi with just 30K diff, baka GLX AT na lang.. ok ba ang AT ng Mitsu?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasVN View Post
    Guys,

    Looks like we are leaning over Lancer, Diba ung Lancer GLX, projector type na Headlight kaya lang dipa HID? Tama ba? Kasi I will upgrade to HID kung sakali.. and add ko rin ng Fog lamps.. un siguro kulang.. We visited Ford, Chevy and Mitsu dealers unfortunately, we are not able to find display any of these MT variants, even the GLX AT sana, kasi with just 30K diff, baka GLX AT na lang.. ok ba ang AT ng Mitsu?

    Thanks
    no problem with AT of mitsu. pero 4AT lang sya. which others find it underpowered. but for me, ok lang naman

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    4AT Non-CVT ang alam ko sa Lancer. No projector HLs.

    I really like the Cruze. Chevy makes solid cars. Their build, especially the interior is just fantastic. Wala un interior ng GLX Lancer. Reliability is ok naman as per our past experience w/ optra. Pag may major parts lang talaga minsan matagal i-order at medyo may kamahalan. But it's really solid

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    Guys,

    Parang ang layo ng price ng Cruze LS M/T vs Lancer EX M/T. Ok din ba ang Cruze L M/T? I think lahat yata ng wala sa L vs LS ay madaling i add like fog lamps or can't do without like USB...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasVN View Post
    Guys,

    Parang ang layo ng price ng Cruze LS M/T vs Lancer EX M/T. Ok din ba ang Cruze L M/T? I think lahat yata ng wala sa L vs LS ay madaling i add like fog lamps or can't do without like USB...
    Yup, there's not much differentiating the L and LS variants.

    50k gets you fog lamps, a rear backup camera, usb/ipod connectivity and 2 extra speakers. Stuff you can live without, if you ask me.

    Hindi ko lang sure kung madali magsource ng fogs sa labas.

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    Pre,

    Get the Lancer.

    Sakit sa ulo Focus sa gastos.

    Chevy same.

    In general I think American cars.

    How is the Tucson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesto View Post
    Pre,

    Get the Lancer.

    Sakit sa ulo Focus sa gastos.

    Chevy same.

    In general I think American cars.

    How is the Tucson?
    Meh. All new cars have expensive parts. The Lancer EX 1.6 is the new EX model... not the old Cedia one. The difference is really not worth noting... especially for parts you will only replace once (or not at all) over five years of ownership.

    Besides, the Focus and Lancer are both made in Thailand. The Focus has a European chassis and an egnine co-developed in Japan.The Lancer has a Japanese chassis with an engine engineered by a Korean company.

    The Chevrolet? Built and designed in Korea, just like the Tucson.

    "American" versus "Japanese" don't mean nothing but where the stockholders hold their board meetings.
    Last edited by niky; September 3rd, 2012 at 03:00 PM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Meh. All new cars have expensive parts. The Lancer EX 1.6 is the new EX model... not the old Cedia one. The difference is really not worth noting... especially for parts you will only replace once (or not at all) over five years of ownership.

    Besides, the Focus and Lancer are both made in Thailand. The Focus has a European chassis and an egnine co-developed in Japan.The Lancer has a Japanese chassis with an engine engineered by a Korean company.

    The Chevrolet? Built and designed in Korea, just like the Tucson.

    "American" versus "Japanese" don't mean nothing but where the stockholders hold their board meetings.
    Nice info di ko alam na korea narin pala chevy and engine ng lancer eh korea din. How about toyota and honda sir.

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    ^

    huwag lang made in china. lol.

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    One often overlooked spec is the suspension. Both the Focus and the Lancer have independent rear suspension while the Cruze only has Torsion beam. I suggest you do a test drive para macompare mo kung ano magugustuhan mo.

    Dont listen to "urban legends" like "Brand X" has poor quality kasi sabi ng kapitbahay ng pinsan ng kaibigan ko. Another misconception is the American vs. Japanese vs. Korean Cars. Siguro nung 80's and 90's this is valid but I dont think there's much difference now. Both the Americans and Koreans have stepped up with their new offerings. Yun nga lang resale value is mostly based on reputation built through the years and this hurts other brands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    no problem with AT of mitsu. pero 4AT lang sya. which others find it underpowered. but for me, ok lang naman
    For a 1.6 engine, okay na 4AT.

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    Toyota and Honda are also made in Thailand.

    The torsion beam is not a big issue in terms of ride. The Cruze rides softer with the torsion beam than the Lancer does with the IRS.

    Torsion beams only matter in terms of suspension alignment adjustability. You can't give them the same range of dynamic camber as IRS. Having camber increase when the suspension is loaded makes the car more stable in cornering. But new cars use directional bushings to induce dynamic toe changes instead, even on torsion beam cars. Increasing toe-in during cornering does the same thing as increasing negative camber. Some torsion beam cars like the old Jazz and the Mazda2 handle very, very well.

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