NEED HELP - best compact sedan around 800K (AT)

[ice15]

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The Mitsubishi Mirage Is the Worst New Car You Can Buy - YouTube

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I once sent an email to a car site about the Mirage...

Since if you look at it's Wikipedia page... Mas madami syang Negative reviews than positives...
Top Gear listed it as one of the worst cars you can buy right now.
Top Gear Philippines rated it 18 out of 20!

Then the site replied... (I'm paraphrasing)
The review was made with Pinoys in mind.
Cheap car, good FC, ok aircon and features.

Mas maingat din daw tayo sa car kaya bihira ka makakita ng driver na maxed out ang RPM...

There are better cars in the International Market. Kaya lang sa atin, for it's price range mahirap bigyan ng negative review and Mirage.

[StockEngine]

I once sent an email to a car site about the Mirage...

Since if you look at it's Wikipedia page... Mas madami syang Negative reviews than positives...
Top Gear listed it as one of the worst cars you can buy right now.
Top Gear Philippines rated it 18 out of 20!

Then the site replied... (I'm paraphrasing)
The review was made with Pinoys in mind.
Cheap car, good FC, ok aircon and features.

Mas maingat din daw tayo sa car kaya bihira ka makakita ng driver na maxed out ang RPM...

There are better cars in the International Market. Kaya lang sa atin, for it's price range mahirap bigyan ng negative review and Mirage.

have you tried both cars?

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[Wh1stl3r]

Always thought the Mirage is a smaller car that competes with the Brio, Wigo and Eon.

Almera should be the same category as the Vios, City and Accent.

It's probably because the Almera lags so much behind its rivals in sales that it is priced to sell vs the smaller subcompacts.

Given that it is a category higher, the parts used and interior appointments should be a notch higher than the Mirage.

[ice15]

have you tried both cars?

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Yes...

I posted a long list of complains about the Mirage on another thread...
Passenger lang wife and daughter ko and they both hated it.

Almera handled much better.

But as I posted din earlier (also on another thread)

My ex staff bought a GLS G4 and it's her first brand new car... Tuwang tuwa naman sya and much better than her old Corolla E100.

[StockEngine]

good. you know na [emoji16]

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[Woof]

NEED HELP

My fiance is looking to buy her first car soon with the ff. main priorities:
1. Automatic transmission (not an option)
2. Comfort - good A/C, easy driving experience (daily driving from Makati and QC during rush hour)
3. Durability (will panic if car breaks down - 2nd hand not currently an option)
4. Price (around 800K)
5. Size (compact sedan - she's only 4'11")

Performance is not a concern as she'll probably be driving very slow.

She's currently thinking about the following:
Honda City 1.5E - 868K (pricier side)
Kia Rio 1.4SL - 807K (parts availability concern)
Mitsubishi Mirage G4 GLX - 717K
Nissan Almera 1.5E - 824K
Suzuki Ciaz 1.4GL - 845K
Suzuki Dzire GL+ - 698K (good price but still with a stick)
Toyota Vios 1.3E - 841K

P.S. I did not include Fiesta and Accent due to reliability issues.

Any advice and/or past experiences with the above choices?

THANK YOU!!!

Suzuki Dzire with the AGS looks like a good contender. It's priced at the lower end of the range and it is easy to drive, economical, decently equipped (rear AC vents and 12v socket) and is an automatic… well of sorts. Is there something glaringly bad or missing about this car?

[Egan101]

^^^ Is it me or is the Suzuki D-Zire an ugly-looking car? The Swift looks better.

[coiter]

^^^ Is it me or is the Suzuki D-Zire an ugly-looking car? The Swift looks better.

saw the actual unit already and to me it's ok and definitely better looking than the old Swift D-zire. inside, i was surprised by the space, rear aircon vents and 12v socket. medyo alangan lang ako sa AGS since i have the QQ AMT which is similar though most likely the Suzuki AGS is more refined.

[ice15]

IMO, based on the car's mentioned at the start of this thread...

#1 Honda City 1.5E or Toyota Vios 1.3E (I prefer the bigger engine, but if my wife or daughter is driving, safety first so it'll be the Vios)

#3 Mitsubishi Mirage G4 GLX or Nissan Almera 1.5E (yes the Almera will handle and age better, but the Mirage will be easier to sell plus it has more toys... Based on the mentioned prices, the Mirage is also 83k below the 800mark!)

[coiter]

IMO, based on the car's mentioned at the start of this thread...

#1 Honda City 1.5E or Toyota Vios 1.3E (I prefer the bigger engine, but if my wife or daughter is driving, safety first so it'll be the Vios)

#3 Mitsubishi Mirage G4 GLX or Nissan Almera 1.5E (yes the Almera will handle and age better, but the Mirage will be easier to sell plus it has more toys... Based on the mentioned prices, the Mirage is also 83k below the 800mark!)

price of the Vios 1.3E CVT is already at PHP878,000.

agree with ice15 but I'd also add the Ciaz 1.4GL in #1 for closer comparison/consideration just because of its size and my experience with the Ertiga and Suzuki in general, which is quite good.

[Wh1stl3r]

Forgot to throw in my vote for the City 1.5E as well. Best ride quality and driving experience imho. Well worth the asking price.

[chronicle]

My ex staff bought a GLS G4 and it's her first brand new car... Tuwang tuwa naman sya and much better than her old Corolla E100.

I like my old rola compared to the mirage.
Fc lang talaga ang nagpanalo sa mirage.

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[Woof]

^^^ Is it me or is the Suzuki D-Zire an ugly-looking car? The Swift looks better.

It's not comparable to the City or Vios that's for sure - presyo pa lang ang layo na eh. The Swift of course looks better because it is better proportioned for its size, being a hatch. But compared to other small sedans like the Mirage G4 and Brio Amaze, the Dzire actually looks decent. For sedans of that size and category pilit na kasi talaga proportions when you have to squeeze in a proper trunk. That trunk is something that many can appreciate (i.e. to put stuff into to maximize limited interior passenger space, put dirty stuff like wet market goods and shoes that won't soil/stink your interior cabin, act as a rear crumple zone for rear passenger safety, etc.). I suppose buyers in this price segment are more concerned about overall practicality than just mere good looks. Aside from the rear vents and 12v socket, it also has foglamps, touchscreen infotainment system, I-MID, power everything, rear center armrest with cupholders and steering mounted controls - just about everything that bigger subcompacts offer. Kulang na lang yata stability control eh. I just found the Dzire's overall value proposition at P698K to be very compelling when I chanced to look at it.

saw the actual unit already and to me it's ok and definitely better looking than the old Swift D-zire. inside, i was surprised by the space, rear aircon vents and 12v socket. medyo alangan lang ako sa AGS since i have the QQ AMT which is similar though most likely the Suzuki AGS is more refined.

I can't recall where but I read somewhere that the Dzire has the second generation AGS. And yes, it is surprisingly roomy inside for its class.

Now if there's evidence that the Dzire's AGS is going to be a problem later, well then let's hear it.

[KcireReaver]

Yes...

I posted a long list of complains about the Mirage on another thread...
Passenger lang wife and daughter ko and they both hated it.

Almera handled much better.

But as I posted din earlier (also on another thread)

My ex staff bought a GLS G4 and it's her first brand new car... Tuwang tuwa naman sya and much better than her old Corolla E100.

ung g4 ng nanay(kapatid ko ung driver nya) ko wala nmang problema. its a basic car nga talaga best for those who are still learning to drive. 70k kms na ung mileage nya about 1 and 3/4 years palang but properly maintained sa casa so far no problem. fully loaded pa nga kadalasan including the trunk. ung sinasabi nila mahina ung rear suspension hindi nman mahina malambot lang talaga at ramdam mong pangit sa fast corners. sa dalas na mafull load wala pa nman silang nakikitang leak sa suspension.
since habol ni ts ung para sa fiance nya hindi nman cguro kelangan ng aggressive na car. more on toys kasi cguro if para sa mga babae as long as maihahatid ka from point A to point B.
kung si ts sana naghahanap honda city would be the best talaga among the rest.

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[babkalakal]

price of the Vios 1.3E CVT is already at PHP878,000.

agree with ice15 but I'd also add the Ciaz 1.4GL in #1 for closer comparison/consideration just because of its size and my experience with the Ertiga and Suzuki in general, which is quite good.

OT lang natandaan ko yun 1994 Honda Accord 2.0 Exi A/T namin 878,000 din. hehe talk about inflation.

[Egan101]

OT lang natandaan ko yun 1994 Honda Accord 2.0 Exi A/T namin 878,000 din. hehe talk about inflation.

That was 24 years ago. A Civic EG would have been priced around 500k back then.

If you ask me though, despite a new City's toys and gadgets, a 5th gen Accord will be a much better car to drive back then and even now (assuming properly maintained).

[babkalakal]

That was 24 years ago. A Civic EG would have been priced around 500k back then.

If you ask me though, despite a new City's toys and gadgets, a 5th gen Accord will be a much better car to drive back then and even now (assuming properly maintained).

We also had a 96 vti manual. priced at 560k naman. the city would probably be superior interms of drive pero kung comfort lang accord pa din. Damn now I miss our old car hehe.

[Egan101]

We also had a 96 vti manual. priced at 560k naman. the city would probably be superior interms of drive pero kung comfort lang accord pa din. Damn now I miss our old car hehe.

Superior against a 5th gen Accord? I would have reservations about that if talking about how it drives. We had a 6th gen Accord (2001) and a previous gen City 1.5E (2009) before. The City is just a bore to drive. Accords are more responsive, better control, and more plush interiors.


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[ale828]

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get your fiance a test drive to the cars she wants. since she will be the one to drive, you are gonna need her inputs once she tried test driving the available cars.
Ask her which one she finds the easiest to drive and PARK. since first time drivers usually have a hard time parking cars.
From the test drive you can narrow down your choices.
Personally would pick the Toyota vios simply because of its safety features which is a much needed feature for your peace of mind.
the honda city will come in a close second. You could also check the Honda jazz/Toyota yaris or the mobilio. not sure if it will fit the budget thou.

[skyflakes]

Try mo din hyundai accent diesel

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