Montero_Sport_vs._Santa_Fe_Comparison_Model_2013

[GTi]

Sobrang layo. The new Santa Fe has quality comparable to true midsize SUVs like the Prado and Pajero and premium crossovers like the CX9. The Montero uses very cheap quality plastic for the interior, although the design is OK. The ride is comfortable and the handling not too shabby either. In terms of punch, I find it slightly better than the Santa Fe VGT- which, mind you, is still faster off the line. I don't know if its because the unit I drove is still green or if its just plain turbo lag, but the throttle response was very much delayed. It takes its time to slowly rev until it nears 2000rpm before it starts to really go at it, unlike the near-instantaneous throttle response of the SF VGT which hits 3000rpm within a split second of hitting the accelerator. Not to mention the 4D56, despite being tweaked to its current 178ps form, is still noisy and unrefined- much more so than the 3.0L Fortuner, let alone the Santa Fe.

[doc vince]

Back 2007, most of the fellas here were skeptic about the korean SUV, but the SF has a come a long way, and now it seems that the tide has changed in favor of the korean based german influenced SUV.

[kurtsm]

Back 2007, most of the fellas here were skeptic about the korean SUV, but the SF has a come a long way, and now it seems that the tide has changed in favor of the korean based german influenced SUV.

Just to add comment. I don't see much of Montero or Strada here in African region, Korean cars are more visible here & as we know African region cars are more of Euro Cars due to its stability & quality.

[d_mac]

Sobrang layo. The new Santa Fe has quality comparable to true midsize SUVs like the Prado and Pajero and premium crossovers like the CX9. The Montero uses very cheap quality plastic for the interior, although the design is OK. The ride is comfortable and the handling not too shabby either. In terms of punch, I find it slightly better than the Santa Fe VGT- which, mind you, is still faster off the line. I don't know if its because the unit I drove is still green or if its just plain turbo lag, but the throttle response was very much delayed. It takes its time to slowly rev until it nears 2000rpm before it starts to really go at it, unlike the near-instantaneous throttle response of the SF VGT which hits 3000rpm within a split second of hitting the accelerator. Not to mention the 4D56, despite being tweaked to its current 178ps form, is still noisy and unrefined- much more so than the 3.0L Fortuner, let alone the Santa Fe.

Wala naman ganyanan sir, sinasabi mo pawang katotohanan eh na ayaw marinig ng mga fanboys haha! Akala ko ba sir sabi ni Mitsuboshi tatapatan daw niya power ni Santa Fe hehe .... Sa dami ng Mitsuboshi banners nang lumabas si namumulang GT-V, tatapatan daw si Fe haha :D ....Ang dami namang naniniwala sa Phelipens ;)

Tama yang description mo chief, anemic yan below 2000 rpm (may hesitation) kahit pa super-power daw ang namumulang GT-V hehe ;)

Hindi nga pinapansin yan sa ibang bansa hehe, OIP lang yan (only in the Phelipens)

No further comment your honour kasi pawang katotohanan sinasabi mo, tunay kang hindi pinagdududahan idol! ;)

[oliver1013]

Wow nagsanib..gti and dmac....nice

[GTi]

Wala naman ganyanan sir, sinasabi mo pawang katotohanan eh na ayaw marinig ng mga fanboys haha! Akala ko ba sir sabi ni Mitsuboshi tatapatan daw niya power ni Santa Fe hehe .... Sa dami ng Mitsuboshi banners nang lumabas si namumulang GT-V, tatapatan daw si Fe haha :D ....Ang dami namang naniniwala sa Phelipens ;)

Tama yang description mo chief, anemic yan below 2000 rpm (may hesitation) kahit pa super-power daw ang namumulang GT-V hehe ;)

Hindi nga pinapansin yan sa ibang bansa hehe, OIP lang yan (only in the Phelipens)

No further comment your honour kasi pawang katotohanan sinasabi mo, tunay kang hindi pinagdududahan idol!

Personal experience yan sir! We had a 2008 SF 4x2 VGT which was replaced recently with a 2013 Strada GLS Sport V since the need for a bigger hauler arose. I was able to extensively drive both. Both are capable of hitting 200km/h (and have already been done, but not by me). In order for the Strada to be quick off the line, manual mode must be activated. Steering is on the heavy side, though thankfully doesn't take too many turns from lock to lock unlike our old Trooper which needs about 5 turns, though with a very light steering. I mentioned that the plastics were hard and cheap-looking, but the (old) Santa Fe's is just as hard. I was surprised with the ride quality, it doesn't feel like its on leaf springs at all! There is still some body roll when cornering at the limit, though still not half as bad as the Revo cornering at half the speed. The power locks are still not speed sensitive, and like with many Mitsubishi's, are activated from the driver's door lock itself instead of having a separate switch along with the power window controls, which is rather ergonomically incorrect. The hand brake is in a position for RHDs, and is a rather long reach. The floor pan is rather high, being a ladder frame vehicle, which makes it quite a hassle to climb up to for some, and then you'll see that it lacks any pillar-mounted grab handles!

Its still got lots of rough edges, and I backstab that car everywhere I go. But in the end I still enjoy driving the Strada a lot whenever I get the chance to.

[arsen]

Sobrang layo. The new Santa Fe has quality comparable to true midsize SUVs like the Prado and Pajero and premium crossovers like the CX9. The Montero uses very cheap quality plastic for the interior, although the design is OK. The ride is comfortable and the handling not too shabby either. In terms of punch, I find it slightly better than the Santa Fe VGT- which, mind you, is still faster off the line. I don't know if its because the unit I drove is still green or if its just plain turbo lag, but the throttle response was very much delayed. It takes its time to slowly rev until it nears 2000rpm before it starts to really go at it, unlike the near-instantaneous throttle response of the SF VGT which hits 3000rpm within a split second of hitting the accelerator. Not to mention the 4D56, despite being tweaked to its current 178ps form, is still noisy and unrefined- much more so than the 3.0L Fortuner, let alone the Santa Fe.

New Hyundai/Kia diesel engines are fitted with a close-coupled DPF (diesel particulate filter) as "standard component". See the sample of close-coupled particulate filter in the photo.

DPFs together with multiple high temp sensors will add somewhere between 150,000 to 200,000 pesos (or more) to the vehicle cost which is of course passed on to the buyer. The DPFs gives freedom to ECU programmer to apply the so-called near-instantaneous throttle response control setting without the occurrence of billowing soot which d_mac always see when trailing the montero sport... hahaha

Vehicle owners actually paid for it but all credit goes to the manufacturer... so they are clapping... hahaha

photo credit to "thekoreancarblog"

Wala naman ganyanan sir, sinasabi mo pawang katotohanan eh na ayaw marinig ng mga fanboys haha! Akala ko ba sir sabi ni Mitsuboshi tatapatan daw niya power ni Santa Fe hehe .... Sa dami ng Mitsuboshi banners nang lumabas si namumulang GT-V, tatapatan daw si Fe haha :D ....Ang dami namang naniniwala sa Phelipens ;)

Tama yang description mo chief, anemic yan below 2000 rpm (may hesitation) kahit pa super-power daw ang namumulang GT-V hehe ;)

Hindi nga pinapansin yan sa ibang bansa hehe, OIP lang yan (only in the Phelipens)

No further comment your honour kasi pawang katotohanan sinasabi mo, tunay kang hindi pinagdududahan idol! ;)

Hello there

[d_mac]

New Hyundai/Kia diesel engines are fitted with a close-coupled DPF (diesel particulate filter) as "standard component". See the sample of close-coupled particulate filter in the photo.

DPFs together with multiple high temp sensors will add somewhere between 150,000 to 200,000 pesos (or more) to the vehicle cost which is of course passed on to the buyer. The DPFs gives freedom to ECU programmer to apply the so-called near-instantaneous throttle response control setting without the occurrence of billowing soot which d_mac always see when trailing the montero sport... hahaha

Vehicle owners actually paid for it but all credit goes to the manufacturer... so they are clapping... hahaha

photo credit to "thekoreancarblog"

Hello there

Hi there boss!

Gaya nga nang pilit kong sinasabi sa yo idol kuno, kung Monterosport na tak-tak-tak lang ang makina meron kami (by my in-laws though, not from my own money hehe ) at kada piga ko sa silinyador idol natatawa ako, hindi tuwa ah, dahil bukod sa anemic sa power below 2000 rpm, maingay pate pag binira, at ubod ng usok si lumang 1986 pa na engine 4D56 GUARANTEED yan pards, HINDI NA KAILANGAN NA RATIO-AND-PROPORTION mo lang na computation ahihi.... Sumakay ka pa imbitado ka hehe

Gaya nga ng sinsasabi ko pa sa yo din, you may assume every scenario apart from what is true, yang mga pinagmamalaki mo na Monterosport, kahit pa yung may namumulang GT-V para bumenta, pag dating sa akyatan na marimi lalong hairpins o switchbacks iniiwan lang ni hinDMAXsiado kahit wastegate turbo lang ito hehe.

Yun lang naman pards.... Ngayon idol, pakita ka ulit ng ratio-and-proportion mo ahihi.... Kahit ano pang sabihin mo pa at magpakita ka ng equation kuno kung-ano-ano para i-build up yang Monterosport idol scientist ahihi, hinding-hindi ako magsasayang ng pera ko sa bulok na Monterosport na yan idol

Cheers idol!

[arsen]

Hi there boss!

Gaya nga nang pilit kong sinasabi sa yo idol kuno, kung Monterosport na tak-tak-tak lang ang makina meron kami (by my in-laws though, not from my own money hehe ) at kada piga ko sa silinyador idol natatawa ako, hindi tuwa ah, dahil bukod sa anemic sa power below 2000 rpm, maingay pate pag binira, at ubod ng usok si lumang 1986 pa na engine 4D56 GUARANTEED yan pards, HINDI NA KAILANGAN NA RATIO-AND-PROPORTION mo lang na computation ahihi.... Sumakay ka pa imbitado ka hehe

Why complain much if it is not from your own money.

Your in-laws just only get what they paid for. If they or others (the intended market) are willing to pay 200,000 to 250,000 pesos more to have the complete after treatment devices and precise but more expensive generic diesel modules for the engine, for sure they can get the same engine performance and power settings.

Gaya nga ng sinsasabi ko pa sa yo din, you may assume every scenario apart from what is true, yang mga pinagmamalaki mo na Monterosport, kahit pa yung may namumulang GT-V para bumenta, pag dating sa akyatan na marimi lalong hairpins o switchbacks iniiwan lang ni hinDMAXsiado kahit wastegate turbo lang ito hehe.

The road I always travel doesn't even have a single hairpin where I can gain much of something your hinDMAXsiado has to offer.
So how about sa rektahan, let say 99.9% of the time? How's your hinDMAXsiado compared to an MS? Nakakahabol ka pa ba?

Yun lang naman pards.... Ngayon idol, pakita ka ulit ng ratio-and-proportion mo ahihi.... Kahit ano pang sabihin mo pa at magpakita ka ng equation kuno kung-ano-ano para i-build up yang Monterosport idol scientist ahihi, hinding-hindi ako magsasayang ng pera ko sa bulok na Monterosport na yan idol

Cheers idol!

I am not building up the MS. It was already well built and well accepted for its intended market even before I joined Tsikot... hahaha
Someone like you is just trying to destroy it by all means... wag mo naman ako baliktarin pards....hahaha


Regarding my ratio and proportion, I just shared to you the simple reasoning behind the engine downsizing which is presently, the favorite enhancement of the manufacturer to accomplish the following:

1. Same fuel injection quantity, reduced piston* = increase in power**
*reduced sizes and weights of dynamic components, reduction in constant specific loses but quantity of usuable air for combustion is compromised thus needs early/better boost activation.
** how much increase in power to expect? try my ratio and proportion....its magical.... hahaha

2. Reduced piston but no increase of power = reduced fuel consumption (current eco cars)

3. Reduced piston and reduced power = more reduced fuel consumption to comply with more strict emission regulation


Kung alam mo na sana....
More cheers!

[d_mac]

The road I always travel doesn't even have a single hairpin where I can gain much of something your hinDMAXsiado has to offer.
So how about sa rektahan, let say 99.9% of the time? How's your hinDMAXsiado compared to an MS? Nakakahabol ka pa ba?

Nampucha idol na nga kita WOW! Bilis lang pala alam mo sa diretso hahahaha! NOW YOU'RE TALKING typical city boy bwahaha

Malamang ikaw din yung tipong preno nang preno sa mga corners ahihi

Regarding my ratio and proportion, I just shared to you the simple reasoning behind the engine downsizing which is presently, the favorite enhancement of the manufacturer to accomplish the following:

1. Same fuel injection quantity, reduced piston* = increase in power**
*reduced sizes and weights of dynamic components, reduction in constant specific loses but quantity of usuable air for combustion is compromised thus needs early/better boost activation.
** how much increase in power to expect? try my ratio and proportion....its magical.... hahaha

2. Reduced piston but no increase of power = reduced fuel consumption (current eco cars)

3. Reduced piston and reduced power = more reduced fuel consumption to comply with more strict emission regulation

Kung alam mo na sana....
More cheers!

YUP alam ko idol At alam ko mali sinasabi mo hehe kaya gaya nga ng sabi ko... Until now you're cluttered sa theories mo haha.... Eh kung mag-kumpara kaya tayo ng 3.0-litre D-max o Alterra fuel consumption versus yang Monterosport 2.5-litre mo. Kahit pa yung walang GT-V na Monty o Strada na 136 hp versus itong 146 hp na 3.0-litre D-max, tignan mo pare koy anong mas matipid.... Sama mo pa si hi-power GT-V mo o GLS-V Strada sa comparison. Ako pa bobolahin mo na araw araw kasama ko mga iba't-ibat 4x4 diesel pickups at isang Fortuner 3.0 D-4D sa mga services namin sa trabajo hehe.... Huwag ka kasi puros sat-sat at sa theories idol hehe....

Yun lang naman pards gaya nga ng uulitin ko pa.... Ngayon idol, pakita ka ulit ng ratio-and-proportion mo ahihi.... Kahit ano pang sabihin mo pa at magpakita ka ng equation kuno kung-ano-ano para i-build up yang Monterosport idol scientist ahihi, hinding-hindi ako magsasayang ng pera ko sa bulok na Monterosport na yan city boy


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