Altis 1.6 or Vios 1.3 ??? (Currently have Corolla GLi 4afe 1.6)

[Dezaremos]

I'm planning to replace my Corolla GLi 1.6 for a new sedan and the main reason is to have a fuel efficient car.

Fuel efficient ba ang Altis 1.6 compare sa Corolla 4afe ko ngayon ?? May mga nka pagsabi kasi na halos prehas lng daw consumption ng altis at corolla GLi, kung may difference konting-konti lang ..

How much percentage will be the fuel efficiency of Vios 1.3 compare sa Corolla GLi 4afe 1.6 ko ngayon ??? Mabilis talaga ang 4afe ko especially sa highway pero medyo matakaw cya kung sa city driving na kaya gusto kong palitan kahit 2nd hand na vios or altis ...

Pls help po ..

[bloowolf]

I'm planning to replace my Corolla GLi 1.6 for a new sedan and the main reason is to have a fuel efficient car.

Fuel efficient ba ang Altis 1.6 compare sa Corolla 4afe ko ngayon ?? May mga nka pagsabi kasi na halos prehas lng daw consumption ng altis at corolla GLi, kung may difference konting-konti lang ..

How much percentage will be the fuel efficiency of Vios 1.3 compare sa Corolla GLi 4afe 1.6 ko ngayon ??? Mabilis talaga ang 4afe ko especially sa highway pero medyo matakaw cya kung sa city driving na kaya gusto kong palitan kahit 2nd hand na vios or altis ...

Pls help po ..

Don't you want to consider other brands aside from a Toyota? There are so many other brands out there that are better looking, more dynamic & more fuel efficient than a Toyota. The new Mazda 2 with SkyActive, for example, can go 25 kms/liter, or the Mirage G4, that goes 19kms/lit. Honda offers amazing new models that are also fuel efficient. Think outside the box.

[dct]

Don't you want to consider other brands aside from a Toyota? There are so many other brands out there that are better looking, more dynamic & more fuel efficient than a Toyota. The new Mazda 2 with SkyActive, for example, can go 25 kms/liter, or the Mirage G4, that goes 19kms/lit. Honda offers amazing new models that are also fuel efficient. Think outside the box.

Mas malaking pera ilalabas mo pag bumili ng bagong sasakyan vs continue using the old one. Pwera na lang kung gusto mo na talaga ng bago. Pero kung fuel efficiency lang talaga concern mo, yan luma na lang gamitin mo

[Dezaremos]

Mas malaking pera ilalabas mo pag bumili ng bagong sasakyan vs continue using the old one. Pwera na lang kung gusto mo na talaga ng bago. Pero kung fuel efficiency lang talaga concern mo, yan luma na lang gamitin mo

gusto ko rin mag upgrade ng kotse sir pero gusto ko rin yung mas fuel efficient na .. ang problema, i'm partial towards the corolla altis because my GLi is a corolla .. pero kung konte lang difference ng fuel efficiency nang altis at corolla GLi ko kasi pareho silang 1.6 .. then mag vios 1.3 na lng ako ...

[dr. d]

I'm planning to replace my Corolla GLi 1.6 for a new sedan and the main reason is to have a fuel efficient car.

Fuel efficient ba ang Altis 1.6 compare sa Corolla 4afe ko ngayon ?? May mga nka pagsabi kasi na halos prehas lng daw consumption ng altis at corolla GLi, kung may difference konting-konti lang ..

How much percentage will be the fuel efficiency of Vios 1.3 compare sa Corolla GLi 4afe 1.6 ko ngayon ??? Mabilis talaga ang 4afe ko especially sa highway pero medyo matakaw cya kung sa city driving na kaya gusto kong palitan kahit 2nd hand na vios or altis ...

Pls help po ..

you want fuel efficiency so much, you are willing to pay lots of money to achieve it..?
my advice is the same as dct... stick to what you have, until "it spends more time in the repair shop than in the garage".

[jut703]

Pareho lang. We had an old 1.6 GLi Corolla (AE101). Got 8.5 km/L city driving (this was back in the mid 2000s when traffic wasn't as bad).

Now, I have an Altis 1.6G that gets 8 km/L in moderate-heavy metro traffic.

I also had a 2014 Vios 1.3E AT (3rd gen). 8 km/L lang din sa city driving. The 1.3 engine paired with the heavy body and automatic transmission means that FC isn't very good.

Ang matipid na Vios is yung gen 1 and gen 2 na manual. But I don't see the point of trading your Corolla GLi for that - mas ok pa lumang Corolla kaysa lumang Vios.

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[Dezaremos]

Pareho lang. We had an old 1.6 GLi Corolla (AE101). Got 8.5 km/L city driving (this was back in the mid 2000s when traffic wasn't as bad).

Now, I have an Altis 1.6G that gets 8 km/L in moderate-heavy metro traffic.

I also had a 2014 Vios 1.3E AT (3rd gen). 8 km/L lang din sa city driving. The 1.3 engine paired with the heavy body and automatic transmission means that FC isn't very good.

Ang matipid na Vios is yung gen 1 and gen 2 na manual. But I don't see the point of trading your Corolla GLi for that - mas ok pa lumang Corolla kaysa lumang Vios.

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so kung pareho lng sa GLi ko then erase na ang altis .. ang gusto ay yung gen 1 at yung batman na vios, ayaw ko nang bagong design ng vios na malaki ang kaha, hindi daw as fuel efficient sabi ng mga medreps na kabarkada ko ..

"But I don't see the point of trading your Corolla GLi for that - mas ok pa lumang Corolla kaysa lumang Vios." - Bakit po mas ok ang lumang corolla kaysa lumang vios ?? yung 1st gen na vios ng boss ko na nabili nya ng 2nd hand sa manager ng philamlife, ok na ok nman kahit 10yrs na at saka napaka tipid pa sa gas ...

[jut703]

so kung pareho lng sa GLi ko then erase na ang altis .. ang gusto ay yung gen 1 at yung batman na vios, ayaw ko nang bagong design ng vios na malaki ang kaha, hindi daw as fuel efficient sabi ng mga medreps na kabarkada ko ..

"But I don't see the point of trading your Corolla GLi for that - mas ok pa lumang Corolla kaysa lumang Vios." - Bakit po mas ok ang lumang corolla kaysa lumang vios ?? yung 1st gen na vios ng boss ko na nabili nya ng 2nd hand sa manager ng philamlife, ok na ok nman kahit 10yrs na at saka napaka tipid pa sa gas ...

The AE101 Corolla is more spacious than the gen 1 Vios. Also much more powerful. AE101 rides better too than the gen 1 Vios. Gen 2 improved in terms of space and refinement, but also much more expensive.

You can sell your Corolla for about 130k. A used gen 1 Vios 1.3 will be about 250k. Let's assume that the Corolla does 8 km/L and the Vios does 10 km/L, price of gas is 35/L, and you travel 15,000 km a year.

Annual fuel cost of the Corolla: 15,000 / 8 * 35 = P65,625

Annual fuel cost of the Vios: 15,000 / 10 * 35 = P52,500

That's a difference of roughly 13k per year. It will take you OVER 9 YEARS to even make up for the cost of trading your Corolla for a Vios. Only after that will you be realizing savings of about 1k a month in fuel.

Other forumers have already posted previously - the cost of switching to a more efficient car far outweighs the fuel savings you get.

We can't stop you if you wanna push through with the switch, but you've been sufficiently warned. Good luck with whatever you decide.


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[Dezaremos]

The AE101 Corolla is more spacious than the gen 1 Vios. Also much more powerful. AE101 rides better too than the gen 1 Vios. Gen 2 improved in terms of space and refinement, but also much more expensive.

You can sell your Corolla for about 130k. A used gen 1 Vios 1.3 will be about 250k. Let's assume that the Corolla does 8 km/L and the Vios does 10 km/L, price of gas is 35/L, and you travel 15,000 km a year.

Annual fuel cost of the Corolla: 15,000 / 8 * 35 = P65,625

Annual fuel cost of the Vios: 15,000 / 10 * 35 = P52,500

That's a difference of roughly 13k per year. It will take you OVER 9 YEARS to even make up for the cost of trading your Corolla for a Vios. Only after that will you be realizing savings of about 1k a month in fuel.

Other forumers have already posted previously - the cost of switching to a more efficient car far outweighs the fuel savings you get.

We can't stop you if you wanna push through with the switch, but you've been sufficiently warned. Good luck with whatever you decide.


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Thanks for the inputs sir .. I really appreciate it ..

I really want to upgrade to a vios because it a newer model, I also thought a Vios can give me atleast 12kl/per li .. My daily route is office to house & vice versa with light to moderate traffic .. But I also do errands from my wife's business on weekends in moderate to heavy traffic ..

Based on your computations, will it be a good move to just replaced all the underchassis components of my AE101 that needed replacements rather than replace it with a vios ???

I just wanted a Vios to have a newer car than my GLi but I'm not planning to hold on to it forever .. Maybe 3 to 4 years only ...

[dct]

Thanks for the inputs sir .. I really appreciate it ..

I really want to upgrade to a vios because it a newer model, I also thought a Vios can give me atleast 12kl/per li .. My daily route is office to house & vice versa with light to moderate traffic .. But I also do errands from my wife's business on weekends in moderate to heavy traffic ..

Based on your computations, will it be a good move to just replaced all the underchassis components of my AE101 that needed replacements rather than replace it with a vios ???

I just wanted a Vios to have a newer car than my GLi but I'm not planning to hold on to it forever .. Maybe 3 to 4 years only ...

Sisiw lang ang another 3 to 4 yrs. Ilang tulog lang yan di mo mamamalayan na 2019 na pala. Haha. Seriously, maiksi lang yan para bumili ka ng new car for the sake of better fuel consumption. Skip your plan for the vios and buy a better car in 2020. Nasave mo pa yung pera na papangbili mo sana ng vios for a better/newer car

[Jeff2308]

Thanks for the inputs sir .. I really appreciate it ..

I really want to upgrade to a vios because it a newer model, I also thought a Vios can give me atleast 12kl/per li .. My daily route is office to house & vice versa with light to moderate traffic .. But I also do errands from my wife's business on weekends in moderate to heavy traffic ..

Based on your computations, will it be a good move to just replaced all the underchassis components of my AE101 that needed replacements rather than replace it with a vios ???

I just wanted a Vios to have a newer car than my GLi but I'm not planning to hold on to it forever .. Maybe 3 to 4 years only ...

Vios MT 2016 can give you 12km per liter mix city/ highway based on full tank computation.

[jut703]

Thanks for the inputs sir .. I really appreciate it ..

I really want to upgrade to a vios because it a newer model, I also thought a Vios can give me atleast 12kl/per li .. My daily route is office to house & vice versa with light to moderate traffic .. But I also do errands from my wife's business on weekends in moderate to heavy traffic ..

Based on your computations, will it be a good move to just replaced all the underchassis components of my AE101 that needed replacements rather than replace it with a vios ???

I just wanted a Vios to have a newer car than my GLi but I'm not planning to hold on to it forever .. Maybe 3 to 4 years only ...

With the same traffic conditions that will allow 12 km/L for the Vios, you could get 9-10 km/L for the Corolla. Hmmm, have you tried computing the FC of your Corolla in the first place? Using full tank to full tank method of course, not just approximation using the fuel gauge.

I don't recommend to replace everything for the Corolla. That'll be pricey. Just replace what's really due for replacement.

If it's FC you're concerned about, start by checking the ff:

1. Engine oil - when was the last time you had your oil changed? What oil rating and viscosity are you using? Fully synthetic or semi-synthetic oil can give you a slight improvement in FC over regular mineral oil. Also make sure to replace your oil filter, preferably with an OEM one.

2. Spark plugs - as far as I remember, the Corolla doesn't use iridium plugs yet, so you have to change plugs every 20-30,000 km. Again, make sure to use spark plugs that are OEM spec to get the best power/efficiency.

3. Air filter - have your filter checked if it's already clogged. Usual replacement of filters is every 10-20,000 km depending on need. Replace if necessary.

4. Fuel filter - again, could already be clogged.

All of these are cheap maintenance items - it won't cost you more than 3k to have all of that replaced, since Corolla parts are cheap, and many shops in Banawe (and all over the country actually) carry them.


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[Peter Chien]

Stick with your old car

[dct]

Accent diesel pinakatipid. Tipid na sa consumption, mura pa ang diesel

[unmarked]

I feel like mas ok kung altis nalang ang kunin mo sir, para upgrade talaga. Hindi ho nalalayo ang konsumo ng dalawa.

[unmarked]

While it doesnt hurt to give another option, ts is asking our opinion kung okay ang 1st (Altis) or 2nd (Vios) options nya.

Maganda ang point nila OP kasi nga makaka tipid ka. Pero alam naman natin lahat na hindi mo rin mailalagay in pure numbers ung satisfaction and feeling ng upgrade sa mas batang auto.

So, why not diba?

For me, go for altis. More space, power, and features. Hanggang 9km/l ang best FC ng altis alam ko for the older generations, which is acceptable naman in the city. Of course kung highway routes ka mas gaganda pa, in theory.

[cudburry]

While it doesnt hurt to give another option, ts is asking our opinion kung okay ang 1st (Altis) or 2nd (Vios) options nya.

Maganda ang point nila OP kasi nga makaka tipid ka. Pero alam naman natin lahat na hindi mo rin mailalagay in pure numbers ung satisfaction and feeling ng upgrade sa mas batang auto.

So, why not diba?

For me, go for altis. More space, power, and features. Hanggang 9km/l ang best FC ng altis alam ko for the older generations, which is acceptable naman in the city. Of course kung highway routes ka mas gaganda pa, in theory.

ito ang hinahanap ko na sagot... kasi ibinenta ko ang Toyota Corolla ko na 1994 Model 2E. Madalas na kasi ang pagawa ko. Mas efficient po ba ang altis 1.6 G/E kesa 2E na makina ko dati? Nagdadalawang isip pa kasi ako kung Altis or Vios. Mga Altis 2007 or vios 2007 po ang balak ko. Salamat po sa sasagot...Marami po akong points na natutunan sa inyo guys.

Altis E/G 2007or2008 vs Vios E/G 2007or 2008 (Nakikita ko 2007/2008 hindi nagkakalayo ang presyo ng 2nd hand) Mileage lang ang minsan nagkatalo.)

Reason:

1. Fuel Efficient -Halos 24 Kilometers lang ang gamit ko araw- araw, hatid at sundo kasi nova to lagro lang.
2. Spacious para sa family
3. Marami ang piyesa kung may papalitan
4. Comfort

Please help me make the right decision guys. Toyota lang ang gusto ko kasi Kung sakaling gusto ko ng ibenta medyo may price rin siya. Budget ko ay 250k to 280k. Thanks po.

[dr. d]

ito ang hinahanap ko na sagot... kasi ibinenta ko ang Toyota Corolla ko na 1994 Model 2E. Madalas na kasi ang pagawa ko. Mas efficient po ba ang altis 1.6 G/E kesa 2E na makina ko dati? Nagdadalawang isip pa kasi ako kung Altis or Vios. Mga Altis 2007 or vios 2007 po ang balak ko. Salamat po sa sasagot...Marami po akong points na natutunan sa inyo guys.

Altis E/G 2007or2008 vs Vios E/G 2007or 2008 (Nakikita ko 2007/2008 hindi nagkakalayo ang presyo ng 2nd hand) Mileage lang ang minsan nagkatalo.)

Reason:

1. Fuel Efficient -Halos 24 Kilometers lang ang gamit ko araw- araw, hatid at sundo kasi nova to lagro lang.
2. Spacious para sa family
3. Marami ang piyesa kung may papalitan
4. Comfort

Please help me make the right decision guys. Toyota lang ang gusto ko kasi Kung sakaling gusto ko ng ibenta medyo may price rin siya. Budget ko ay 250k to 280k. Thanks po.

spacious and comfort... altis.
one has but to savor a vios taxi ride to come to my conclusion that that vios is un-spacious inside. big guy ako, kasi...
once you buy the car, no money in the world can enable you to squeeze more space from it.

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ito ang hinahanap ko na sagot... kasi ibinenta ko ang Toyota Corolla ko na 1994 Model 2E. Madalas na kasi ang pagawa ko. Mas efficient po ba ang altis 1.6 G/E kesa 2E na makina ko dati? Nagdadalawang isip pa kasi ako kung Altis or Vios. Mga Altis 2007 or vios 2007 po ang balak ko. Salamat po sa sasagot...Marami po akong points na natutunan sa inyo guys.

Altis E/G 2007or2008 vs Vios E/G 2007or 2008 (Nakikita ko 2007/2008 hindi nagkakalayo ang presyo ng 2nd hand) Mileage lang ang minsan nagkatalo.)

Reason:

1. Fuel Efficient -Halos 24 Kilometers lang ang gamit ko araw- araw, hatid at sundo kasi nova to lagro lang.
2. Spacious para sa family
3. Marami ang piyesa kung may papalitan
4. Comfort

Please help me make the right decision guys. Toyota lang ang gusto ko kasi Kung sakaling gusto ko ng ibenta medyo may price rin siya. Budget ko ay 250k to 280k. Thanks po.

Glad I am helping you with that old post haha. Altis pa rin all day. Go for '08 (face lifted na rin, 10th gen na ata yan) I think all disc brakes na? (can someone confirm). ung 07 ko kasi front disc brake/rear drum combo. Go for higher variant ung saken G variant AT may bumper sensor na din 2 sa harap, 3 sa rear. Very helpful sa gitgitan. If you decide Altis, inspect ng mabuti ung AC. Sakit ng altis yan. Lalo na ung 9/9.5 gen, kasi except the lowest variant w/c is sanden AC, lahat yan Denso. Pag denso ang AC babaklasin ung buong dashboard pag ang nasira e ung evaporator.

[cudburry]

May follow up question lang din pala ako.. may nakita ako VVTi Engine. Mas matipid po ba yun