mazda 3 maxx 899k

[xiven02]

ok po ba itong kotse na toh? ang laki yata na naimura. pwede na ba toh sa mga first timer , mazda kasi. dapat ba toyota or honda na lang?

http://www.mazda.ph/mazda3maxx/

[Mikemike07]

Nakita ko yan sa fb. Although im a fan of its looks, grabe naman yung engine specs at transmission. Napakaunderpowered tapos 3 speed lang. Im not sure but i think its the same engine from the previous gen. Not the skyactiv one. So things will stay the same. Bad fc because its underpowered coupled with a bad transmission. Looks lang talaga selling point. Sayang. The 2.0 version is nice though.

[basti08]

Marami naka misinterpret. Hindi kasi inayos ng Mazda ang ads nila.

It is Mazda 3AT sa ads nila when in fact, it should be Mazda 3 4AT.

4 AT naman sya. San pa ba sila kukuha ng 3AT ngayon hahaha....

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[Mikemike07]

Oops. Sa comments ko lang kasi nabasa. Pero naisip ko baka nga 3AT pa rin kasi 3AT lang yung previous gen. But still, ang hina talaga nung engine. Yung 1.6 nga na elantra nasa 124 hp na eh. Lol. Di ata 100k dapat yung price cut na ginawa nila. More like 300k. Given the fact that the specs are bad and palabas na rin yung next gen.

[basti08]

Mazda gusto ko pa din yung Mazda 3 1.6V hatch. Kaso sobrang mahal 1.099M pa din. sana yan ang gawin 899K pwede na!


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[E240]

Actually late na kasi dumating yang kaha na yan satin luma pa engine. Ewan ko ba sa mazda bakit ganun. May all new na nga eh, ilang taon palang dito yang generation na yan. Hawig sa new mazda 6 yung pinaka bagong mazda 3.

[jhnkvn]

Well, with the release of the all-new Mazda3 "Kodo" design, looks like the current Mazda3's going to have a limited run. If they stick to their promise to release a new one sa 2014, expect a lot of Mazda3 owners to be angry. But I'll take my chances that they'll bring it in probably a year late -- 2015 to strike a balance.

The engine is the old 1.6L DOHC engine from the first-generation Mazda3 but I believe. I have no information regarding the 4-speed automatic though.

Trying to judge a car based on its specifications is a newbie's mistake. In day-to-day cases, the torque figure would give you a better know-how on the vehicle's performance rather than their horsepower ratings. A more experienced person would then want to know what is their given torque and hp given the RPM range.

The second-generation Mazda3 is also significantly lighter than its predecessor. The 2.0L engine variant is over a hundred pounds lighter than the outgoing 1.6L model -- what more for the 1.6L variant.

The Mazda3's transmission isn't bad. It's just that it isn't suited for daily traffic hence not suitable for driving around the metro. The gear ratio's quite short and the transmission is quite happy to allow the user to reach higher-revs before shifting up. It's more suited for track/spirited driving use compared to the rather boring 2000-RPM-shift-up tranny of fuel-efficient cars.

And why the heck are people obsessed with more gears? They practically mean nothing unless you're cruising down the highway. It's not like you're doing 60km/h in EDSA on peak hours. Hell, my Sonata has 6-gears and yet I'm doing 5-6km/L (thanks to mods) so unless you spend most of your time plying the highways, most people are good with 4-5.

But in all seriousness, a 4-speed automatic can even be more fuel efficient than a 5 or 6 speed. What if the 5/6 speed's final gear kicks in at 60km/h while the 4-speed has an insanely long 3rd gear and kicks in at 90km/h? This means that the 4-speed wins in cruising down NLEX/Skyway/etc. at 100km/h at a fuel-sipping contest.

[s10pao]

Trying to judge a car based on its specifications is a newbie's mistake. In day-to-day cases, the torque figure would give you a better know-how on the vehicle's performance rather than their horsepower ratings. A more experienced person would then want to know what is their given torque and hp given the RPM range.

saan ba nakukuha ung ganitong info?

But in all seriousness, a 4-speed automatic can even be more fuel efficient than a 5 or 6 speed. What if the 5/6 speed's final gear kicks in at 60km/h while the 4-speed has an insanely long 3rd gear and kicks in at 90km/h? This means that the 4-speed wins in cruising down NLEX/Skyway/etc. at 100km/h at a fuel-sipping contest.

clarify ko lang. eto pagkakaintindi ko dun sa statement mo, mas matipid (possibly) ang 4AT during HW runs kasi mas mabilis sya mag-accelerate to 100KPH? can you mention specific car models that behave this way (3rd gear and kicks in at 90km/h)?

[jut703]

Fact is, you can't really tell from paper specs how the car drives. Simple as that.

A Vios 1.3 makes 85 hp, a City 1.3 makes 100. But anyone who has driven both will tell you that for the most part of the rev range, the Vios is peppier.

[JohnM]

clarify ko lang. eto pagkakaintindi ko dun sa statement mo, mas matipid (possibly) ang 4AT during HW runs kasi mas mabilis sya mag-accelerate to 100KPH? can you mention specific car models that behave this way (3rd gear and kicks in at 90km/h)?

Pagkakagets ko dito at hiway legal speeds (100kph satin) anong rev ng engine? The Vios AT runs at 2500 rpm while the MT runs at 3000 rpm. At 100 parang mas matipid ang AT because mas mababa revs nya. So in that sense kung nasa 2500 rpm din ang 6AT at 100kph wala ring real reason to take the 6AT over the 4AT kung hiway driving lang paguusapan.

[SiRbossR]

Fact is, you can't really tell from paper specs how the car drives. Simple as that.

A Vios 1.3 makes 85 hp, a City 1.3 makes 100. But anyone who has driven both will tell you that for the most part of the rev range, the Vios is peppier.

I agree on this one, The Vios feels torqueir than the City in revs lower than 5k.

[basti08]

Actually late na kasi dumating yang kaha na yan satin luma pa engine. Ewan ko ba sa mazda bakit ganun. May all new na nga eh, ilang taon palang dito yang generation na yan. Hawig sa new mazda 6 yung pinaka bagong mazda 3.

Thing is kelan ba ni-release ng Mazda ang current 3 dito sa Philippines? Mga mid-late 2011 na ata. Priced too high with outdated engine. I think FGP really did that on purpose kasi they have plans to drop Mazda later on. So, pag laglag nila sa Mazda, wala nang followers, priced too high, with outdated engine, tapos tamang tama yung brand new Focus nila, newer tech, newer more powerful engine tapos halos similar price. That's how they tried to sabotage the 3.

[jhnkvn]

saan ba nakukuha ung ganitong info?

Google. Simple search for "<brand name> <car> horsepower and torque graph". Unless you're part of the first-buyers, most cars have their dyno figures easily accessible. It isn't like you have to knock on Speedlabs' or Autoplus front doors to get it.

And tama si JohnM, if a 4-speed cruises down the highway at 2,000RPM while a 5-6 speed cruises down the highway at 2,500RPM.. kahit ano gawin mo, the 4-speed is still more fuel-efficient. It's all about the gearing of the transmission. Of course, we can always say that 5-6 speed trannys are more fuel efficient in general thanks to a higher selection of gear but it isn't always more fuel efficient.

Always remember that the car is what it is based on the sum of its parts. It's not always about the engine. It's useless to have 700 horses under the hood if super slick tires in rainy weather. It's all about how great the synergy between the drivetrain, engine, etc. that delivers the term you call "performance".

The sad fact I feel is that a lot of people are recommending cars based on their paper specifications alone without even driving both cars themselves or that they simply drive one car but not the other one (one-side bias). This is especially important in a car comparison thread where we compare X car with Y car and see which is better suited for the threadstarter's aim. Gayahin niyo naman si niky -- nagtest drive ng madami and gives honest feedback regarding his opinions

[s10pao]

Google. Simple search for "<brand name> <car> horsepower and torque graph". Unless you're part of the first-buyers, most cars have their dyno figures easily accessible. It isn't like you have to knock on Speedlabs' or Autoplus front doors to get it.

thanks for this info.

And tama si JohnM, if a 4-speed cruises down the highway at 2,000RPM while a 5-6 speed cruises down the highway at 2,500RPM.. kahit ano gawin mo, the 4-speed is still more fuel-efficient. It's all about the gearing of the transmission. Of course, we can always say that 5-6 speed trannys are more fuel efficient in general thanks to a higher selection of gear but it isn't always more fuel efficient.

ah ok. so mas matipid ang 4AT as compared to a 6AT in the HW due to the gear ratio at the highest gear.

[TopEngine]

So ang Fuel Efficiency ay naka-depende sa RPM value? Kung halimbawa both cars traveling at speed 100km/hr; si car A at 2300rpm, while car B at 2500rpm, ibig sabihin mas matipid si car A?

I'm driving 1.5E City AT, napansin ko it changes gear at 2000rpm (for lower gears). Hindi ko na tinitignan at higher gears ano rpm ko since I'm more focus on the road.

Anyway, I remember this info for my 2nd buy soon

[speed_kills]

I think it's better wait for the next gen Mazda 3 or choose something else if you need to buy a new car soon. You might just feel disappointed knowing that your car will be obsolete in less than a year.

The next gen Mazda 3 is really nice based on the newly released photos as it represents a new direction for Mazda just like the CX-5 and 6.

Plus, with how Mazda is positioning their new models, I'm pretty sure the new 3 will be priced and packaged very aggressively.

[sabawballs]

maganda naman siya. I just dont like how it guzzles up gas. Tried the older Mazda 3 but i think its the same engine as this one as other stated? It feels somewhat heavy... BUT i commend and love its handling!!! Very connected ang driver sa wheel. Fun to drive hands down!

[basti08]

Lower RPM at top gear is what matters for efficient cruising. Kahit pa 6AT sya pero mataas RPM nya, mas ma-konsumo sya. Pero mostly, having highers gears permits a tranny to cruise at much lower RPM.

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[JohnM]

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[Mikemike07]

I hope it isnt too much for the 1.6 to drag this car. Well, goodluck to the current and future owners of this one. I hope it wont have the same story with the previous gen 1.6 m3. What im looking forward to is the new m3. The hatch looks nice and im sure the sedan would be too. If priced right like the m6 which undercuts the camry it could be a big hit since compacts are the go-to vehicle class of the majority aside from subcompacts.