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    #21
    Between the two, mas type ko interior at exterior ng Mazda 3.

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    Up! Jazz VX vs Mazda 3 1.5V
    adding in Altis 1.6 G CVT

    this will be my first car, so I really have limited knowledge in terms of maintenance and etc.

    -will be used everyday 9am to 6pm; Antipolo to Makati via Rosario Pasig, C5, EDSA, Ayala (parang lahat ng impyernong traffic dadaanan ko) around 40 KM travel per day (back and forth)
    -it will be a long ride so fuel efficiency, comfort, and reliability are the criteria
    -i don't care about looks or any subjective nonsense, so objective reasons please
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    Quote Originally Posted by kio View Post
    this will be my first car, so I really have limited knowledge in terms of maintenance and etc.
    Mazda's Yojin3 gives you free maintenance for 3 years. All you have to do is bring in your car at the recommended schedule (they're understandably strict about this). The comfort and FC are just bonuses

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    Quote Originally Posted by kio View Post
    Up! Jazz VX vs Mazda 3 1.5V
    adding in Altis 1.6 G CVT

    this will be my first car, so I really have limited knowledge in terms of maintenance and etc.

    -will be used everyday 9am to 6pm; Antipolo to Makati via Rosario Pasig, C5, EDSA, Ayala (parang lahat ng impyernong traffic dadaanan ko) around 40 KM travel per day (back and forth)
    -it will be a long ride so fuel efficiency, comfort, and reliability are the criteria
    -i don't care about looks or any subjective nonsense, so objective reasons please
    Take the Altis.

    CVT will mean good fuel efficiency.
    The Mazda 3 / Jazz chassis/suspension is tuned for a more sporty drive so the Altis will be more comfortable (this is Toyota's forte).
    There are many Corollas on the road, so parts and future service outside the Toyota dealerships will be plentiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kio View Post
    Up! Jazz VX vs Mazda 3 1.5V
    adding in Altis 1.6 G CVT
    I'd go with the Mazda3. It may not be as spacious as the Altis but it strikes a good balance in handling, comfort, and looks. SkyActiv technology has gotten good reviews in fuel efficiency.

    If you want a compact car with the big and comfortable interiors, the Altis is a good choice and so is the Nissan Sylphy. These cars are more comparable in size to older midsize cars. The Jazz is spacious for a subcompact hatchback but I don't dig the current Stormtrooper look. It does offer great utility options with its ability to have its rear seats fold flat to allow bigger cargo compared even to compacts. The Jazz offers good handling (better than its sedan brother, the City) but not as responsive and sporty as the Fiesta hatchback.

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    With your route? Id take the jazz. Fuel efficiency is top notch. Much easier to maneuver in that crawl of a drive due to its short overhangs. Lots of space and flexibility and better absolute performance than either the 1.5 mazda or 1.6 corolla. Comfortable seats help on the drive as well.

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    I am currently keen on getting the Jazz because it's the most fuel efficient and will surely have low running cost because it's a subcompact (lower registration cost, insurance, fuel cost, maintenance). But considering its price, pwede na talaga magmove 1 level up kasi konting dagdag nalang. Pero worth it ba na magcompact ako? coz I will only ride it alone 95% of the time. What are the advantages? or the Jazz would suffice?

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    I am currently keen on getting the Jazz because it's the most fuel efficient and will surely have low running cost because it's a subcompact (lower registration cost, insurance, fuel cost, maintenance). But considering its price, pwede na talaga magmove 1 level up kasi konting dagdag nalang. Pero worth it ba na magcompact ako? coz I will only ride it alone 95% of the time. What are the advantages? or the Jazz would suffice?

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    Put it this way: when i drive (similar route qc to makati via c5 or edsa) i choose the jazz as my car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kio View Post
    I am currently keen on getting the Jazz because it's the most fuel efficient and will surely have low running cost because it's a subcompact (lower registration cost, insurance, fuel cost, maintenance). But considering its price, pwede na talaga magmove 1 level up kasi konting dagdag nalang. Pero worth it ba na magcompact ako? coz I will only ride it alone 95% of the time. What are the advantages? or the Jazz would suffice?

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    I am currently keen on getting the Jazz because it's the most fuel efficient and will surely have low running cost because it's a subcompact (lower registration cost, insurance, fuel cost, maintenance). But considering its price, pwede na talaga magmove 1 level up kasi konting dagdag nalang. Pero worth it ba na magcompact ako? coz I will only ride it alone 95% of the time. What are the advantages? or the Jazz would suffice?
    If you need space go for the bigger car. Also, consider those out of town trips, who'd be hitching a ride with you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kio View Post
    I am currently keen on getting the Jazz because it's the most fuel efficient and will surely have low running cost because it's a subcompact (lower registration cost, insurance, fuel cost, maintenance). But considering its price, pwede na talaga magmove 1 level up kasi konting dagdag nalang. Pero worth it ba na magcompact ako? coz I will only ride it alone 95% of the time. What are the advantages? or the Jazz would suffice?

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    I am currently keen on getting the Jazz because it's the most fuel efficient and will surely have low running cost because it's a subcompact (lower registration cost, insurance, fuel cost, maintenance). But considering its price, pwede na talaga magmove 1 level up kasi konting dagdag nalang. Pero worth it ba na magcompact ako? coz I will only ride it alone 95% of the time. What are the advantages? or the Jazz would suffice?
    If you need space go for the bigger car. Also, consider those out of town trips, who'd be hitching a ride with you?

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    Don't care about looks? Get a Vios E instead for only 778k, plus a 30k discount so that's about 750k. You save close to 200k vs your other options, more than enough to pay for gas for about 3 years. Maintenance is very cheap, the car is very reliable. Space is even bigger than an Mz3. Very easy to drive and it actually has good handling. FC will be the same as all your other options since it's stop and go traffic. You'll probably average around 8 km/L.

    Objectively, I don't see how this isn't your best option. Subjectively, it's obviously not as classy as your options, but subjectiveness is nonsense right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Don't care about looks? Get a Vios E instead for only 778k, plus a 30k discount so that's about 750k. You save close to 200k vs your other options, more than enough to pay for gas for about 3 years. Maintenance is very cheap, the car is very reliable. Space is even bigger than an Mz3. Very easy to drive and it actually has good handling. FC will be the same as all your other options since it's stop and go traffic. You'll probably average around 8 km/L.

    Objectively, I don't see how this isn't your best option. Subjectively, it's obviously not as classy as your options, but subjectiveness is nonsense right?
    i based my options on carguide ph top 5 of 2014.
    I was also considering Ford Fiesta, but I don't like their automatic tranny

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Don't care about looks? Get a Vios E instead for only 778k, plus a 30k discount so that's about 750k. You save close to 200k vs your other options, more than enough to pay for gas for about 3 years. Maintenance is very cheap, the car is very reliable. Space is even bigger than an Mz3. Very easy to drive and it actually has good handling. FC will be the same as all your other options since it's stop and go traffic. You'll probably average around 8 km/L.

    Objectively, I don't see how this isn't your best option. Subjectively, it's obviously not as classy as your options, but subjectiveness is nonsense right?
    i based my options on carguide ph top 5 of 2014.
    I was also considering Ford Fiesta, but I don't like their automatic tranny

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    Quote Originally Posted by kio View Post
    Up! Jazz VX vs Mazda 3 1.5V
    adding in Altis 1.6 G CVT

    this will be my first car, so I really have limited knowledge in terms of maintenance and etc.

    -will be used everyday 9am to 6pm; Antipolo to Makati via Rosario Pasig, C5, EDSA, Ayala (parang lahat ng impyernong traffic dadaanan ko) around 40 KM travel per day (back and forth)
    -it will be a long ride so fuel efficiency, comfort, and reliability are the criteria
    -i don't care about looks or any subjective nonsense, so objective reasons please
    Accent HB diesel ayaw mo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kio View Post
    Up! Jazz VX vs Mazda 3 1.5V
    adding in Altis 1.6 G CVT

    this will be my first car, so I really have limited knowledge in terms of maintenance and etc.

    -will be used everyday 9am to 6pm; Antipolo to Makati via Rosario Pasig, C5, EDSA, Ayala (parang lahat ng impyernong traffic dadaanan ko) around 40 KM travel per day (back and forth)
    -it will be a long ride so fuel efficiency, comfort, and reliability are the criteria
    -i don't care about looks or any subjective nonsense, so objective reasons please
    Accent HB diesel ayaw mo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kio View Post
    i based my options on carguide ph top 5 of 2014.
    I was also considering Ford Fiesta, but I don't like their automatic tranny
    So you based your decision on an article written by someone else, who probably has a different set of criteria from yours.

    For example, the Mz3 ranked #2 primarily because it's a head-turner. Which goes against your statement that subjective criteria is nonsense.

    The Jazz is a great package, until you realize that it's almost 200k more expensive than a Vios. For people who care about looks and toys, it might be worth it, but again, subjective criteria is nonsense right?

    The Altis is a better car than the Vios in every way (except handling, the Vios is more agile because it's smaller), but you don't need the Altis since the Vios offers everything you said you need (reliability, efficiency, comfort) for much less money.

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    Yes you're right, but I want to maximize the budget that I'll be receiving which is 950K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kio View Post
    i based my options on carguide ph top 5 of 2014.
    I was also considering Ford Fiesta, but I don't like their automatic tranny
    Have you test-driven a Fiesta? You better take it it out for a test drive, specially the 1.0L Ecoboost model. For about the same amount of money, I'd take the Fiesta Ecoboost over the Jazz VX. It is just so much fun driving a small car with about the same power and torque as bigger cars. It is even very thrifty on the highway. I drive daily a Fiesta Ecoboost and it is a way better drive than our previous-gen City and Jazz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Have you test-driven a Fiesta? You better take it it out for a test drive, specially the 1.0L Ecoboost model. For about the same amount of money, I'd take the Fiesta Ecoboost over the Jazz VX. It is just so much fun driving a small car with about the same power and torque as bigger cars. It is even very thrifty on the highway. I drive daily a Fiesta Ecoboost and it is a way better drive than our previous-gen City and Jazz.
    Until the DCT starts to conk out on you hehe. Did they already update this on the newer models? Ford has been having DCT even with the launch of the Ecosport.

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    binuhay tong old thread ko a, hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    Until the DCT starts to conk out on you hehe. Did they already update this on the newer models? Ford has been having DCT even with the launch of the Ecosport.
    As per our survey in FCP, most Fiestas with tranny failures are those manufactured between 2011 and 2012. The newer Fiestas have updated TCM. Also, Ford extended tranny warranty up to 150k km for their cars with the dry-type DCT (Fiesta, Focus, Ecosport).

    There are a bunch of Fiesta Ecoboost owners on the road. I guess the available torque at low RPM is an advantage of sorts for the Ecoboost model. The DCT works well with the small turbo engine. It can easily break 100kmh in just over 9 seconds from a dead stop, even with its traction control switched on.

    Besides, Honda also had its share of tranny failures with their previous AT models. Not all manufacturers are free of such things.
    Last edited by Egan101; June 23rd, 2015 at 12:32 PM.

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    Test drive all your options to find out which one suits your needs the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kio View Post
    Yes you're right, but I want to maximize the budget that I'll be receiving which is 950K.
    If you have to consume your 950k budget anyway, then I'd suggest Mz3 1.5 among your choices. It doesn't have low-end power, but you don't need it. It doesnt have space, but you don't need it. It looks hideous with the stock 16" rims, but you don't mind.

    However, it's feature packed, comfortable, efficient, and easy to maintain because of Yojin3. The only practical drawback is that it will most likely have lower resale value than the Altis or Jazz.

    But IMO best value for money is the Sylphy 1.8. It'll be priced around the same as the Mazda after discounts, but is more comfortable, has more space, and comes with more features.

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