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  1. Join Date
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    My mom says we might finally be able to buy our next car soon.

    We've been considering the Lancer GLX and the Vios E when we thought we would be able to buy the car last month and we nearly bought a GLX.

    However, we have heard that the price of the GLX is back to the 685k margin. With this, I have opened up the possibility of the Vios and the City A to my parents, although my personal preference is the City A.

    My mom also wants the City because it is a Honda and Honda has not let us down for the past 11 years. My dad, on the other hand, still thinks the Lancer is more worth it, considering that the prices of the three are at around the same region, and it has a bigger body and bigger engine. On the other hand, the City produces 100hp while the Lancer is at 105hp(?, please correct me if I'm wrong.)

    I would appreciate it if you share your two cents about this three-car toss up. We're just looking for a car which is decent enough for city driving, and the occasional trips to Tagaytay and maybe even Bicol.

    No need for the really fancy features, just a car with a spacious and neat interior and trunk, with airconditioning, with a radio, with seatbelts, and hopefully with ABS. We're also looking for a reliable and fuel efficient car, easy to maintain and we hope the car is already established to be a good and decent car. And I hope your options are Japanese, and not Nissan. My dad has some sort of allergy with Korean, Chinese and Nissan cars.

    Yeah, I know I'm in a weird situation because of weird prerequisites, and I hope I can make the most out of it.

    Thank you very much for your inputs!

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    Akala ko decided na kayo sa GLX? Haha.

    Prices in ascending order:

    Vios 1.3E MT 664,000
    City 1.3A MT 676,000
    Lancer GLX 1.6 685,000
    City 1.3S MT 716,000

    Assessments:
    VIOS
    Car to beat. It's the cheapest, offers 1 Airbag safety-wise despite having a smaller body, and it's toyota durability. For a 2007/2008 model, I think that there's going to be a worldwide facelifted car (pics are on the net, but nothing much - just see what they did with the 2009 civic)

    LANCER
    Compact car with an aging design. Obviously more expensive than the Vios. However compared to the Vios, the car is 200mm (20cm) longer, packs more punch than the Vios (85HP vs 110HP), carries double disc brakes and a pair of airbags. You get the pros of a larger car with a bigger engine, but also the disadvantages that come with it. Main advantage would be its size. Try to enter each car to see how much bigger the Lancer really is over the others you are comparing it with.

    CITY A
    Newest of the bunch, but with the lowest trim. Powerful engine potential for a 1.3L WHEN you redline it, but lacks some basic things compared to the 2 other cars such as airbags, keyless entry, REAL alloy wheels (if you're particular about this) among others. The city also reportedly has one of the largest trunks for a subcompact sedan.

    Would rather have you check out the City S-
    +airbags
    +keyless entry/stock alarm
    +ipod connectivity via USB (the A can't charge your ipod)
    +alloy wheels (LOL)

    IMO/Final conclusion:
    Toss up between the Vios and the Lancer depending on what you want/need.

    The City A is too bare for me to justify (this is coming from a person who prefers hondas, mitsubishis and subarus to toyotas)

    If you really want to do a little more research objectively:
    - Get a price list of the regular preventive maintenance service from the casa.
    - Check out which car offers greater front/back legroom and trunk space for the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    Akala ko decided na kayo sa GLX? Haha.

    Prices in ascending order:

    Vios 1.3E MT 664,000
    City 1.3A MT 676,000
    Lancer GLX 1.6 685,000
    City 1.3S MT 716,000
    City S is already too much, hanggang Lancer GLX na lang siguro. But then and again, we initially considered this kasi sa 638k lang pumapatak yung price after discounts, cheaper than the 20k discount offered to us for the Vios. Now, we might end up going for the Vios kung price lang pag-uusapan

    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    Assessments:
    VIOS
    Car to beat. It's the cheapest, offers 1 Airbag safety-wise despite having a smaller body, and it's toyota durability. For a 2007/2008 model, I think that there's going to be a worldwide facelifted car (pics are on the net, but nothing much - just see what they did with the 2009 civic)


    LANCER
    Compact car with an aging design. Obviously more expensive than the Vios. However compared to the Vios, the car is 200mm (20cm) longer, packs more punch than the Vios (85HP vs 110HP), carries double disc brakes and a pair of airbags. You get the pros of a larger car with a bigger engine, but also the disadvantages that come with it. Main advantage would be its size. Try to enter each car to see how much bigger the Lancer really is over the others you are comparing it with.

    CITY A
    Newest of the bunch, but with the lowest trim. Powerful engine potential for a 1.3L WHEN you redline it, but lacks some basic things compared to the 2 other cars such as airbags, keyless entry, REAL alloy wheels (if you're particular about this) among others. The city also reportedly has one of the largest trunks for a subcompact sedan.

    Would rather have you check out the City S-
    +airbags
    +keyless entry/stock alarm
    +ipod connectivity via USB (the A can't charge your ipod)
    +alloy wheels (LOL)
    For me the Vios is a really good car, but sometimes it happens to be too plain (you see a lot of Vios units around, but that's also good thing, speaking of the car's reliability and value). Pero it's actually quite elegant and stylish too, some of my rich friends were given by their parents a Vios E (and they have drivers for that car!) and the feel is very much comparable to more expensive cars daw.

    The Lancer used to be cheaper than the Vios, that's why we nearly bought it. But yes, it's a bigger car and it has more power. I got to ride in it and it's actually a pretty nice car, but I really feel it's quite dated, and even though there are only a few '09 Lancer GLX/GLS around, I have a bad feeling that it has something to do with the car's reliability kaya hindi masyado maganda ang sales niya. This isn't really a bad car, but for me it's quite so-so.

    The only "disturbing" thing for me about the City is the lack of REAL alloy wheels, but everything else is fine. And we definitely need the trunk space. However, the price is somehow painful for a 1.3 given its features nga (but this is obviously better than a Vios J, in my opinion). And we can't afford to stretch our budget just for the City 1.3S, and personally I don't think the 50,000 price difference to get real alloy wheels, FLEX Audio and 2 airbags is worth it.

    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    IMO/Final conclusion:
    Toss up between the Vios and the Lancer depending on what you want/need.

    The City A is too bare for me to justify (this is coming from a person who prefers hondas, mitsubishis and subarus to toyotas)

    If you really want to do a little more research objectively:
    - Get a price list of the regular preventive maintenance service from the casa.
    - Check out which car offers greater front/back legroom and trunk space for the price.
    Personally it's a toss-up for me between the Vios and the City, but your opinions have somehow made me realize that the Lancer should actually be given real consideration (I just considered it dati thanks to parental brainwashing, hehehe).

    The City A might be too bare but actually for my family, it's ok na. We just wish na the price is quite competitive sa Vios E (681k na ngayon yung City) AND they put real alloy rims. Kung for some sort of miracle mangyari nga yun, baka City pa bilhin namin.

    About the legroom, I personally don't have qualms about that of the City (a friend has one, maluwag siya!) and the Lancer (I didn't really expect that the interior is that spacious). Yung sa Vios, yung sa likod maluwag (confident ako diyan, and that's why I really love riding Vios cabs) while yung sa harap medyo masikip (or maybe that's because nung nakisabay ako sa friend ko from a class to my dorm, the front seat was put forward because usually no one sits there and she sits at the back right corner, that I didn't really notice).

    Trunk space naman, I think winner ang City dito. And sometimes marami talaga kaming baggage. The Vios also has respectable trunk space (and 60-40 folding seats, if I am not mistaken?) while the Lancer is somehow in the so-so side.

    Thank you very much for all your inputs, sir! I really appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by after11years View Post
    City S is already too much, hanggang Lancer GLX na lang siguro. But then and again, we initially considered this kasi sa 638k lang pumapatak yung price after discounts, cheaper than the 20k discount offered to us for the Vios. Now, we might end up going for the Vios kung price lang pag-uusapan
    The City S is really my choice though - except the Vios E's features at the price point makes it the undeniable favorite.

    Quote Originally Posted by after11years View Post
    For me the Vios is a really good car, but sometimes it happens to be too plain (you see a lot of Vios units around, but that's also good thing, speaking of the car's reliability and value). Pero it's actually quite elegant and stylish too, some of my rich friends were given by their parents a Vios E (and they have drivers for that car!) and the feel is very much comparable to more expensive cars daw.
    Agree with the plain-ness, along with the legions of vios-es (+taxi) around. I actually like the red/blue units though. Overall design-wise, I'll still take the city (only kung S variant haha)

    Quote Originally Posted by after11years View Post
    The Lancer used to be cheaper than the Vios, that's why we nearly bought it. But yes, it's a bigger car and it has more power. I got to ride in it and it's actually a pretty nice car, but I really feel it's quite dated, and even though there are only a few '09 Lancer GLX/GLS around, I have a bad feeling that it has something to do with the car's reliability kaya hindi masyado maganda ang sales niya. This isn't really a bad car, but for me it's quite so-so.
    The reason why the "09" Lancer GLX isn't selling is (IN MY OPINION) because not only is the model extremely old, but that there's also a newer car carrying the LANCER nameplate. Well, the fact that the brands that are known for reliability/durability don't really start with the letter "M" doesn't help either.

    Quote Originally Posted by after11years View Post
    The only "disturbing" thing for me about the City is the lack of REAL alloy wheels, but everything else is fine. And we definitely need the trunk space. However, the price is somehow painful for a 1.3 given its features nga (but this is obviously better than a Vios J, in my opinion). And we can't afford to stretch our budget just for the City 1.3S, and personally I don't think the 50,000 price difference to get real alloy wheels, FLEX Audio and 2 airbags is worth it.
    IMO, the wheels are easily replaceable but the lack of things like airbags are extremely difficult/expensive to replace within the life of the car.

    Quote Originally Posted by after11years View Post
    Personally it's a toss-up for me between the Vios and the City, but your opinions have somehow made me realize that the Lancer should actually be given real consideration (I just considered it dati thanks to parental brainwashing, hehehe).
    Kapag City S sana, no brainer na for me

    Quote Originally Posted by after11years View Post
    The City A might be too bare but actually for my family, it's ok na. We just wish na the price is quite competitive sa Vios E (681k na ngayon yung City) AND they put real alloy rims. Kung for some sort of miracle mangyari nga yun, baka City pa bilhin namin.
    Yeah, it's just the price hurting the City's case. With the Vios 1.5G M/T in the 750k price range, malabo nga talaga :/

    Quote Originally Posted by after11years View Post
    About the legroom, I personally don't have qualms about that of the City (a friend has one, maluwag siya!) and the Lancer (I didn't really expect that the interior is that spacious). Yung sa Vios, yung sa likod maluwag (confident ako diyan, and that's why I really love riding Vios cabs) while yung sa harap medyo masikip (or maybe that's because nung nakisabay ako sa friend ko from a class to my dorm, the front seat was put forward because usually no one sits there and she sits at the back right corner, that I didn't really notice).
    No experience with either 3 cars, sorry.

    Quote Originally Posted by after11years View Post
    Trunk space naman, I think winner ang City dito. And sometimes marami talaga kaming baggage. The Vios also has respectable trunk space (and 60-40 folding seats, if I am not mistaken?) while the Lancer is somehow in the so-so side.
    Winner nga yung City here, aside from the 60/40 folding seats (meron nga) of the Vios.

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    Ako rin, gusto ko talaga nung City S. Well kung swertehin at makakuha ng really respectable discounts such that hindi masyadong malayo yung price nya from the Vios and the Lancer, sure why not? Sana sub-700k ang kalabasan. However, I do hope at around November or December, maganda ang discounts na makuha, kasi kung ganun na nga, City S na! Bakit ba kasi ang mahal. T_T

    Siguro nga tama kayo about the Lancer.

    And I personally believe na mas ok na ang big car kaysa airbags. Personal reasons, kaya ok lang sa akin na walang airbags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by after11years View Post
    Ako rin, gusto ko talaga nung City S. Well kung swertehin at makakuha ng really respectable discounts such that hindi masyadong malayo yung price nya from the Vios and the Lancer, sure why not? Sana sub-700k ang kalabasan. However, I do hope at around November or December, maganda ang discounts na makuha, kasi kung ganun na nga, City S na! Bakit ba kasi ang mahal. T_T

    Siguro nga tama kayo about the Lancer.

    And I personally believe na mas ok na ang big car kaysa airbags. Personal reasons, kaya ok lang sa akin na walang airbags.
    asa kapa na magbibigay ng discount ang honda, e ang LTO registration nga na 7k di nila kaya ilibre e...that's why i opted for vios 1.5 G AT

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    Quote Originally Posted by after11years View Post
    Ako rin, gusto ko talaga nung City S. Well kung swertehin at makakuha ng really respectable discounts such that hindi masyadong malayo yung price nya from the Vios and the Lancer, sure why not? Sana sub-700k ang kalabasan. However, I do hope at around November or December, maganda ang discounts na makuha, kasi kung ganun na nga, City S na! Bakit ba kasi ang mahal. T_T

    Siguro nga tama kayo about the Lancer.

    And I personally believe na mas ok na ang big car kaysa airbags. Personal reasons, kaya ok lang sa akin na walang airbags.

    Ok ka lang na walang airbags? Worried ako sa yo ah. hehehe

    Kaya ko naman naitanong dahil maraming accident na akong nakita at yung airbags ang nagpahaba ng buhay sa mga nakasakay.

    As for the Lancer, i advice na tingnan muna yung forum about the lancer 2009 at wag lang basta mag assume.


    Kung pam porma, papogi, e thinking of future resale, then go for the Honda City 2009 1.5.

    But if you are looking for more power under hood and the riding comfort, then consider the bigger lancer.

    Cheers

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    between the vios e and the lancer glx, i would go for the lancer. more features, bigger and more powerful engine.

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    Same with sir VLAD. Between the 2, i'd get the lancer more amenities and safety features. However if you would still like to pursue to have the City A placed in your list despite its lacking features, i`d still get it over the three. Even though if it doesnt have keyless entry, alloy wheels, and flex audio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    between the vios e and the lancer glx, i would go for the lancer. more features, bigger and more powerful engine.
    Thanks sir. Yan din yung opinion ng father ko. Medyo concerned lang talaga ako about the reliability, but as the other posters said, ok naman daw itong current model.

    Thanks for the advice, sir.

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    Mitsubishi Lancer "Upgraded" GLX ang kunin niyo.

    Sa speed pa lang lalamunin na ng buo ng Lancer ang City at Vios. And come on, Mitsubishi matindi sila pagdating sa engines.

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    I also have the same dilemma. This was the time when gas prices was going crazy. I was trying to figure out which of these three are worth to my taste and budget. Though my choice was Lancer, i ended up buying Montero after a year. Go for the Lancer GLX ....

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    What are the features of the Upgraded Lancer GLX? Is this different from the ordinary Lancer GLX 1.6 that they are selling now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by likot View Post
    What are the features of the Upgraded Lancer GLX? Is this different from the ordinary Lancer GLX 1.6 that they are selling now?
    the current Lancer GLX is also known as the Upgraded Lancer GLX so they're just the same.

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    I'd go for the city. I have both ridden Lancer GLX and VIOS as taxis and the cars were quite ok. Lancer is quite squeaky for something so new (those I've ridden at least). VIOS is okay, the ride is very stiff though.

    I have driven the City (AT) 09 up to 180kmh at SCTEX last weekend and it's surprisingly stable for such a tiny car at that speed. The trunk is surprisingly large too. We did some shopping then at Duty Free and it really surprised me to find there was so much room at the trunk. Power is kind of low though. 0-120kmh is quick but it's a long wait to 160kmh. After 160, 180 is just a little bit longer more. I like the electric steering. It's easy to maneuver as the steering itself is very direct. Audio is very good too. Overall, I'd choose it over Lancer and Vios.

Lancer GLX, Vios E or City A?