Escape 2003 vs. Pajero (Local) 97 vs. Honda Civic 2006

[kurukutow]

This is a follow-up to my Escape XLT 2003 vs. Crosswind XT 2005 thread. Aside from the Crosswind XT, the owners of one Local Pajero 1997 and one Honda Civic 1.8S 2006 are also willing to swap with my Escape. Problem is both owners want me to shell out money. The Pajero owner wants me to add 60k while the Civic owner wants me to add 150k. What are your thoughts on these proposals? Thanks.

[after11years]

The Civic sounds like a sweet deal, lalo na if you manage to get the 150k down to somewhere near 100k.

[kurukutow]

The Civic sounds like a sweet deal, lalo na if you manage to get the 150k down to somewhere near 100k.

I also like the Civic. However, one of my considerations in getting a car is a high clearance because MEtro Manila is very flood prone. For me, that factor is weighing heavily against the Civic.

[after11years]

I also like the Civic. However, one of my considerations in getting a car is a high clearance because MEtro Manila is very flood prone. For me, that factor is weighing heavily against the Civic.

Saan ba kayo based, Sir? Any flood prone areas na nadadaanan?

OT: Minsan naisip ko ang mga tao napapraning na talaga ngayon. Disasters like Ondoy happen once in decades in Metro Manila, yet now super laking consideration na ang ganoon. Pero kung Ondoy-like naman, kahit SUV hindi makakasurvive eh.

If I were you I'd go for the Civic. Pero kung natatakot kayo about floods, maybe you should just stick to the Escape. Pwede sana yung Pajero pero it's '97 pa so baka magka-maintenance woes ka na.

Good luck po sa pagpapalit (if ever) ng kotse, sir.

[pdc2]

Pajero for me, especially if it's diesel. Higher ground clearance and abundant parts.

[renzo_d10]

You need to consider these facts:

> A car with a higher ground clearance are much safer to drive and pass through flooded areas.

> Comfort is a fact that you should consider.

> Flooded cars might be out already, BEWARE.

> Bring a mechanic with you to check the car itself

> Negotiate

Civic FD :

> The seats are hard. You wouldn't be expecting a very comfy ride. If you're into long drives and stuff, you might not be happy by the seats of the civic.

> The looks ( exterior, interior ) is nice.

> Trunk space is not that large.

> FC : 80% Highway ; 20% City -> 10-11km/l ----- City driving -> 8km/l

> Shelling out cash around 150k isn't bad for a 3 year old civic, if you could lower it a little, better.

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Pajero

> Has high ground clearance

> Not so old looks

> Great power ( observation lang )

> More seating capacity

> Lower the 60k a little bit and these isn't a bad deal. ( Though the 60k isn't a bad deal also )

[kurukutow]

You need to consider these facts:

> A car with a higher ground clearance are much safer to drive and pass through flooded areas.

> Comfort is a fact that you should consider.

> Flooded cars might be out already, BEWARE.

> Bring a mechanic with you to check the car itself

> Negotiate

Civic FD :

> The seats are hard. You wouldn't be expecting a very comfy ride. If you're into long drives and stuff, you might not be happy by the seats of the civic.

> The looks ( exterior, interior ) is nice.

> Trunk space is not that large.

> FC : 80% Highway ; 20% City -> 10-11km/l ----- City driving -> 8km/l

> Shelling out cash around 150k isn't bad for a 3 year old civic, if you could lower it a little, better.

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Pajero

> Has high ground clearance

> Not so old looks

> Great power ( observation lang )

> More seating capacity

> Lower the 60k a little bit and these isn't a bad deal. ( Though the 60k isn't a bad deal also )

I also like the Pajero but Im kinda scared cause its a 12 year old car already. Twice the age of my escape.

[niky]

It's pretty old... the big problem will be the condition of the engine and the turbo... it'll be a bit expensive to maintain or refurbish if the unit is running rough or has fuel problems already.

[testament11]

sir, escape going to pajero eh hindi masama. kung ako kasi, i rather go for a higher vehicle than a car. hindi naman sa pajero lover ako dahil pajero owner ako, pero iba pa rin kasi pag mataas ang sasakyan mo at diesel pa. consider price difference ng gasoline sa diesel, almost or more than 10 petot per liter! yun nga lang, 97 model pajero. pero mine was a 94 JDM model pa at hindi pa masyado nagbibigay ng sakit ng ulo sa akin. on my opinion, dun na ako sa pajero PERO kung kaya mo patapyas ang 60k na dagdag, mas maganda. mataas kasi ang selling value ng pajero lalo na pag 4x4 variant ang fieldmaster na yan.

[basti08]

why he wanna sell the Civic? kakatakot bumili ng second hand ngayon, i hate to be suspicious pero mabuti nang nag-iingat.

[p_borj]

1997 Pajero - Mitsubishi fanatic ako and Pajero is one of my favorites sa Mitsu lineups, but come one, matanda na itong sasakyan na ito. Bukod sa maglalabas ka pa ng 60k, hindi mo alam ang sakit nito para sa future repairs. Hindi mo malalaman kung well maintained ito. Feeling ko nga dapat swap-swap lang talaga wala nang cash-out dapat sa deal niyo. I would prefer your Escape pa rin.

2006 Civic - This is really a good car. But come on, bakit parang biglaan naman yung pagbenta niya? Hindi kaya ito binaha? Kung hindi ito flooded car, hindi pa ito magbibigay ng sakit sa ulo sa iyo since 3 years old palang ito (turning 4). Well maintained or no, kahit papaano bago pa rin ito di hamak. Pero.. you should shell out 150k, masyado itong mataas bro, dapat 70-100k lang. (Ford Escape yang sasakyan mo dude). I would prefer your Escape pa rin.


Teka bro, ano ba reason bakit gustong-gusto mong i-swap yang 03 Ford Escape mo? Ako kasi kahit gusto mong makipag-swap sa 02 Adventure ko, a big NO NO pa rin. Why? Iba yung "gamay at kilala" mo ang sasakyan mo, kabisado mo eh kumbaga. Alam mo ang sakit, alam mo ang ginawa mong maintenance.

Hindi kasi namin malaman, baka may "mabigat" na sakit yang Escape mo, kasi kung may sakit na talaga, aba eh kukunin ko na yung Civic.

[renzo_d10]

^^ Maraming Civic FD ang nasa market nowadays. Siguro dahil malakas din sa gas ito, or naguupgrade na kaagad ang owners sa mas bagong car OR.....hindi na maituloy ang mortgage.

Marami, maraming possible causes but syempre di maiaalis ang reason na " may sira " kung bakit binebenta so it's still better to bring your trusted mechanic with you in checking, not just this car but other cars you're seeking as well.

[igixxi]

para sakin go for the honda civic... kung hindi, eh di pajero na kunin mo

[kurukutow]

1997 Pajero - Mitsubishi fanatic ako and Pajero is one of my favorites sa Mitsu lineups, but come one, matanda na itong sasakyan na ito. Bukod sa maglalabas ka pa ng 60k, hindi mo alam ang sakit nito para sa future repairs. Hindi mo malalaman kung well maintained ito. Feeling ko nga dapat swap-swap lang talaga wala nang cash-out dapat sa deal niyo. I would prefer your Escape pa rin.

2006 Civic - This is really a good car. But come on, bakit parang biglaan naman yung pagbenta niya? Hindi kaya ito binaha? Kung hindi ito flooded car, hindi pa ito magbibigay ng sakit sa ulo sa iyo since 3 years old palang ito (turning 4). Well maintained or no, kahit papaano bago pa rin ito di hamak. Pero.. you should shell out 150k, masyado itong mataas bro, dapat 70-100k lang. (Ford Escape yang sasakyan mo dude). I would prefer your Escape pa rin.


Teka bro, ano ba reason bakit gustong-gusto mong i-swap yang 03 Ford Escape mo? Ako kasi kahit gusto mong makipag-swap sa 02 Adventure ko, a big NO NO pa rin. Why? Iba yung "gamay at kilala" mo ang sasakyan mo, kabisado mo eh kumbaga. Alam mo ang sakit, alam mo ang ginawa mong maintenance.

Hindi kasi namin malaman, baka may "mabigat" na sakit yang Escape mo, kasi kung may sakit na talaga, aba eh kukunin ko na yung Civic.

Believe it or not, wala kahit anong sakit yung Escape ko. Di lang talaga ko sanay sa oto na malakas sa gas. Puro sedan kasi mga dati kong oto. Yung Pajero naman, matagal ko na gusto kaya interesado ako. Pero from reaing all your comments, im beginning to fall in love again with my Escape. Tama sila, kabisado ko na yung Escape ko at wla siya sakit. Matakaw lang.hehehe

[actor21]

Believe it or not, wala kahit anong sakit yung Escape ko. Di lang talaga ko sanay sa oto na malakas sa gas. Puro sedan kasi mga dati kong oto. Yung Pajero naman, matagal ko na gusto kaya interesado ako. Pero from reaing all your comments, im beginning to fall in love again with my Escape. Tama sila, kabisado ko na yung Escape ko at wla siya sakit. Matakaw lang.hehehe

bro ganyan din ako noon, mahal na mahal ko mazda 3 ko, kaso ang lakas sa gas..naririndi ako tuwing magpapagas ako..since 62kms ang roundtrip ko from bahay to office and back to bahay...

wala din ako choice binenta ko sa tatay ko...ngayon boring oto ko pero matipid sa gas...

kung kaya mo ang gas..wag mo na itrade..pero kung unti unti nauubos savings mo..magdecide kana habang maaga..wag ka gumaya sakin na tipong zero balance na bago nagdecide ibenta ayun...

hirap na hirap ako bumangon ngayon

[p_borj]

Believe it or not, wala kahit anong sakit yung Escape ko. Di lang talaga ko sanay sa oto na malakas sa gas. Puro sedan kasi mga dati kong oto. Yung Pajero naman, matagal ko na gusto kaya interesado ako. Pero from reaing all your comments, im beginning to fall in love again with my Escape. Tama sila, kabisado ko na yung Escape ko at wla siya sakit. Matakaw lang.hehehe

kasi kung civic lang din, matakaw din ito sa gas (compared sa escape mo kungsabagay eh matipid na ito).

parang tao lang yan, siyempre mas sanay kang kasama yung madalas mong kasama kesa sa bagong pakikisama hehe. Instead of shelling out 150k more, why not get an economic car like Hyundai i10 diba?

ilan ba FC ng Escape mo bro? Kasi yung 2.0 Adventure ko 5-6km/l (city driving) lang din hehe but still I love this gas guzzler car.

[kurukutow]

bro ganyan din ako noon, mahal na mahal ko mazda 3 ko, kaso ang lakas sa gas..naririndi ako tuwing magpapagas ako..since 62kms ang roundtrip ko from bahay to office and back to bahay...

wala din ako choice binenta ko sa tatay ko...ngayon boring oto ko pero matipid sa gas...

kung kaya mo ang gas..wag mo na itrade..pero kung unti unti nauubos savings mo..magdecide kana habang maaga..wag ka gumaya sakin na tipong zero balance na bago nagdecide ibenta ayun...

hirap na hirap ako bumangon ngayon

Di naman mauubos savings ko dahil sa gas bro. Dati, 1500 per week ako. Ngayon 2,000 na. So 50o a week lang or 2,000 a month ang difference. Actually pwede naman pagtiyagaan ang FC niya.

[basti08]

Believe it or not, wala kahit anong sakit yung Escape ko. Di lang talaga ko sanay sa oto na malakas sa gas. Puro sedan kasi mga dati kong oto. Yung Pajero naman, matagal ko na gusto kaya interesado ako. Pero from reaing all your comments, im beginning to fall in love again with my Escape. Tama sila, kabisado ko na yung Escape ko at wla siya sakit. Matakaw lang.hehehe

hehehe sir upgrade na rin lang sa matipid na oto, why not go for a new Vios? Let's say ma assess pa ang kotse mo at around 380-420k mark, ang Vios 1.3J is 590k lang. Or kung kaya mo mag labas ng 150k para sa Civic, kumuha ka na lang ng bnew Vios, less stress less hassle, bago pa kotse mo, under warranty, new car smell, definitely ligtas sa hassle ng makuha ng 2ndhand flooded unit etc.

Mine's averaging 13km/l city driving heavy-footed pako ha heheh

matipid talaga. 1.3E 664k kung gusto mo more features, City 1.3A 680k kung gusto mas bagong labas na modelo.

[kurukutow]

kasi kung civic lang din, matakaw din ito sa gas (compared sa escape mo kungsabagay eh matipid na ito).

parang tao lang yan, siyempre mas sanay kang kasama yung madalas mong kasama kesa sa bagong pakikisama hehe. Instead of shelling out 150k more, why not get an economic car like Hyundai i10 diba?

ilan ba FC ng Escape mo bro? Kasi yung 2.0 Adventure ko 5-6km/l (city driving) lang din hehe but still I love this gas guzzler car.

Ako din bro 5-6 km/l yung Escape. Pwede na nga pagtiyagaan considering na sobrang mura ng bili ko sa kanya. Isipin ko na lang na yung natipid ko sa pagbili sa kanya e idibagdag ko sa pang-gas. The 2k additional gas per month technically pays for the comfort and prestige that riding my Escape gives me. Sana lang ma get-over ko yung high FC. Hehehehe.

[kurukutow]

hehehe sir upgrade na rin lang sa matipid na oto, why not go for a new Vios? Let's say ma assess pa ang kotse mo at around 380-420k mark, ang Vios 1.3J is 590k lang. Or kung kaya mo mag labas ng 150k para sa Civic, kumuha ka na lang ng bnew Vios, less stress less hassle, bago pa kotse mo, under warranty, new car smell, definitely ligtas sa hassle ng makuha ng 2ndhand flooded unit etc.

Mine's averaging 13km/l city driving heavy-footed pako ha heheh

matipid talaga. 1.3E 664k kung gusto mo more features, City 1.3A 680k kung gusto mas bagong labas na modelo.

Im planning to get a new car din (most likely City) pero baka next year na. Papasakal pa kasi ako. Ay papakasal pala. LOL