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  1. Join Date
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    which to Innova automatic to get Diesel or Gas, and Why?

    which is better ?

    Pros and Cons?

    I think there are more diesel on the road,

    Others say that Diesel and Gas are almost the same...
    parang PC and Mac lang ...


    Please share your experiences , Thanks !

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    Diesel for me! Dahil mas mura diesel price. Hehe! Kaso mahal maintenance ng diesel (based on my experience) kaya I want a gas fed car sa future kaya lang preferred ng family ang diesel kase eh.

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    Innova E Diesel A/T for me, the J is just too bare besides the fact that it comes in M/T only, the G and the V models are already too expensive and the fact that an Innova is still an AUV at the end of the day, money would be better spent buying a Montero Sport or a Fortuner especually if you are considering the V model.

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    Coming from G AT VVTI if i would buy again? I'll be getting the E D4D naman.

    Ang mura ng diesel! Maintenance? Hindi naman ata nalalayo? Tamang alaga lang talaga para tumagal buhay ng oto.


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    I have Innova G VVTi.. and i would get Innova G VVTi again or Fortuner VVTi.. if you are after riding comfort.. get the gas fed vehicle.. if you are concious about the prices of the fuel.. get diesel..

    come to think of it.. gaano mo kadalas gagamitin ang vehicle and compare the price difference of VVTi and D4D Innovas.. gaano mo katagal ma o offset yung 100k o 150k price difference ng VVTi at D4D? Baka bago mo ma offset yun eh plano mo na ulit mag palit ng kotse o kaya baka mag umpisa na wear and tear ng D4D.. ang mahal kaya ng piyesa ng mga bagong diesel engine like injectors, turbo, etc..

    i would only consider diesel fed vehicle pag euro 4 na standard ng fuel dito sa atin.. pero right now madumi pa diesel natin kaya pass muna ako sa diesel cars..

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    For long term ownership, get the diesel. Also, if you always travel loaded, you'd appreciate the torque and thriftiness of the d4d's

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    Diesel for me!
    diesel prices are low
    maintenance is expensive it's a crdi base from my d4-d innova
    powerful

    kung gas gusto mo
    cheaper maintence
    takaw sa gas
    not that fast but faster compared to the revo and adventure then
    if you want a gas fed MPV get the Fuzion/Zinger

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronw123w124 View Post
    Innova E Diesel A/T for me, the J is just too bare besides the fact that it comes in M/T only, the G and the V models are already too expensive and the fact that an Innova is still an AUV at the end of the day, money would be better spent buying a Montero Sport or a Fortuner especually if you are considering the V model.
    But considering the innova's riding comfort I wouldn' exchange mine for a montero
    the innova is more spacious and has a bigger interior
    and the innova V captain chair and leather seats is a winner

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    Quote Originally Posted by homhomnova View Post
    I have Innova G VVTi.. and i would get Innova G VVTi again or Fortuner VVTi.. if you are after riding comfort.. get the gas fed vehicle.. if you are concious about the prices of the fuel.. get diesel..

    come to think of it.. gaano mo kadalas gagamitin ang vehicle and compare the price difference of VVTi and D4D Innovas.. gaano mo katagal ma o offset yung 100k o 150k price difference ng VVTi at D4D? Baka bago mo ma offset yun eh plano mo na ulit mag palit ng kotse o kaya baka mag umpisa na wear and tear ng D4D.. ang mahal kaya ng piyesa ng mga bagong diesel engine like injectors, turbo, etc..

    i would only consider diesel fed vehicle pag euro 4 na standard ng fuel dito sa atin.. pero right now madumi pa diesel natin kaya pass muna ako sa diesel cars..
    50k lang difference bro. Madali lang mabawi yun

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    i have two diesel innovas. one is almost 10 years old, with 100K on the odometer. and i have yet to experience the expensive repairs these diesel engines "are notorious for"..
    folks warn of 'em, but just how many actually experience it? and at what mileage? i mean, is this something the owner expects on a regular basis?

    and the fuel costs.. the diesel will regularly give you about 30 % more kilometers per peso, than the gas...

    riding comfort? it's the same body.. the difference is that the diesel vibrates a little more.. and to me, this vibration thing is palpable only because you are looking for it..

    engine performance? i have heard comments from owners, on the gas engine's apparent lack of oomph..
    i have heard of only one complaint against the diesel's performance, and this guy didn't even own one.

    good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i have heard of only one complaint against the diesel's performance, and this guy didn't even own one.
    Is it internalcombustion

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    Quote Originally Posted by crosswind View Post
    Is it internalcombustion
    ikaw ha...!
    baka tuloy biglang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    50k lang difference bro. Madali lang mabawi yun
    Ganun ba. D ba 1.1M VVTi at 1.2++M D4D?

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    Quote Originally Posted by homhomnova View Post
    Ganun ba. D ba 1.1M VVTi at 1.2++M D4D?
    Nope. Across all the Innova variants, from J to V, MT or AT, the difference between gas and diesel is 55k.

    Now, that 55k difference, assuming the gas gets 8 km/L while the diesel gets 9 km/L, and price of gas is at Php 40/L while diesel is at Php 30/L, and you travel 12,000 km a year:

    Gas: 12,000 / 8 x 40 = P60,000/yr
    Diesel: 12,000 / 9 x 30 = P40,000/yr

    You get annual savings of 20k, so in about 3 years you get to recoup the higher purchase cost of a diesel Innova, even if you factor in slightly higher maintenance costs due to more oil with a diesel.

    Plus, a diesel is more suited for an Innova which is a utility vehicle. You need the low-end torque more than the top-end power if you're ferrying people or cargo.


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    Is it true that turbocharged diesels, specially crdi, should not be left at idling for long period of time?

    When needed, i idles my innova with aircon for 2hrs or more. Doing this on a turbocharged disel could cook the turbos?

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    Idling does not engage turbo. It's the carbon build you should be concerned with but that can be solved with EGR blanking.

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    go for diesel, though but I've heard a lot of stories regarding d4d engines and you wouldn't know unless you try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Idling does not engage turbo. It's the carbon build you should be concerned with but that can be solved with EGR blanking.
    At idle, the turbo is already spinning but boost is not produced until higher rpms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Nope. Across all the Innova variants, from J to V, MT or AT, the difference between gas and diesel is 55k.

    Now, that 55k difference, assuming the gas gets 8 km/L while the diesel gets 9 km/L, and price of gas is at Php 40/L while diesel is at Php 30/L, and you travel 12,000 km a year:

    Gas: 12,000 / 8 x 40 = P60,000/yr
    Diesel: 12,000 / 9 x 30 = P40,000/yr

    You get annual savings of 20k, so in about 3 years you get to recoup the higher purchase cost of a diesel Innova, even if you factor in slightly higher maintenance costs due to more oil with a diesel.

    Plus, a diesel is more suited for an Innova which is a utility vehicle. You need the low-end torque more than the top-end power if you're ferrying people or cargo.


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    Not to mention that the equivalent Diesel model is bound to have a better resale value which would come in handy come resale time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crosswind View Post
    But considering the innova's riding comfort I wouldn' exchange mine for a montero
    the innova is more spacious and has a bigger interior
    and the innova V captain chair and leather seats is a winner
    Never owned either a Fortuner or Montero so I have no idea of their ride comfort although I heard na matagtag nga daw, but I get to use the Innova E office service vehicle from time to time, the ride is just ok for me, I prefer the ride comfort of our old 02 Starex and our Grand Starex.

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