which to Innova to get Diesel or Gas, and Why?

**crosswind** · December 26th, 2014 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by dr. d

i have heard of only one complaint against the diesel's performance, and this guy didn't even own one.

Is it internalcombustion

**dr. d** · December 26th, 2014 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by crosswind

Is it internalcombustion

ikaw ha...!
baka tuloy biglang...

**homhomnova** · December 26th, 2014 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by dct

50k lang difference bro. Madali lang mabawi yun

Ganun ba. D ba 1.1M VVTi at 1.2++M D4D?

**jut703** · December 26th, 2014 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by homhomnova

Ganun ba. D ba 1.1M VVTi at 1.2++M D4D?

Nope. Across all the Innova variants, from J to V, MT or AT, the difference between gas and diesel is 55k.

Now, that 55k difference, assuming the gas gets 8 km/L while the diesel gets 9 km/L, and price of gas is at Php 40/L while diesel is at Php 30/L, and you travel 12,000 km a year:

Gas: 12,000 / 8 x 40 = P60,000/yr
Diesel: 12,000 / 9 x 30 = P40,000/yr

You get annual savings of 20k, so in about 3 years you get to recoup the higher purchase cost of a diesel Innova, even if you factor in slightly higher maintenance costs due to more oil with a diesel.

Plus, a diesel is more suited for an Innova which is a utility vehicle. You need the low-end torque more than the top-end power if you're ferrying people or cargo.

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**shibby75** · December 27th, 2014 12:59 AM

Is it true that turbocharged diesels, specially crdi, should not be left at idling for long period of time?

When needed, i idles my innova with aircon for 2hrs or more. Doing this on a turbocharged disel could cook the turbos?

**Walter** · December 27th, 2014 08:35 AM

Idling does not engage turbo. It's the carbon build you should be concerned with but that can be solved with EGR blanking.

**adriann25** · December 27th, 2014 11:47 AM

go for diesel, though but I've heard a lot of stories regarding d4d engines and you wouldn't know unless you try.

**Monty** · December 27th, 2014 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Walter

Idling does not engage turbo. It's the carbon build you should be concerned with but that can be solved with EGR blanking.

At idle, the turbo is already spinning but boost is not produced until higher rpms.

**ronw123w124** · December 27th, 2014 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

Nope. Across all the Innova variants, from J to V, MT or AT, the difference between gas and diesel is 55k.

Now, that 55k difference, assuming the gas gets 8 km/L while the diesel gets 9 km/L, and price of gas is at Php 40/L while diesel is at Php 30/L, and you travel 12,000 km a year:

Gas: 12,000 / 8 x 40 = P60,000/yr
Diesel: 12,000 / 9 x 30 = P40,000/yr

You get annual savings of 20k, so in about 3 years you get to recoup the higher purchase cost of a diesel Innova, even if you factor in slightly higher maintenance costs due to more oil with a diesel.

Plus, a diesel is more suited for an Innova which is a utility vehicle. You need the low-end torque more than the top-end power if you're ferrying people or cargo.

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Not to mention that the equivalent Diesel model is bound to have a better resale value which would come in handy come resale time.

**ronw123w124** · December 27th, 2014 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by crosswind

But considering the innova's riding comfort I wouldn' exchange mine for a montero
the innova is more spacious and has a bigger interior
and the innova V captain chair and leather seats is a winner

Never owned either a Fortuner or Montero so I have no idea of their ride comfort although I heard na matagtag nga daw, but I get to use the Innova E office service vehicle from time to time, the ride is just ok for me, I prefer the ride comfort of our old 02 Starex and our Grand Starex.