Is Honda SIR still a nice choice for the second hand car?

[basti08]

with great power comes great responsibility....quite odd though honda forgot to install ABS and Airbags with the SiR.

[ssaloon]

probably to keep the price down.

[niky]

Didn't the first SiRs come without radio, too?

I remember that one reason we didn't get one was because of the lack of amenities... in hindsight, that's something that is easily remedied.

[pdc2]

one comment i remembered is the inadequate braking power even though it's already 4 wheel disk-brake.

[sauman]

being a previous owner of a Civic SiR ( I just sold mine last oct. because I need a bigger vehicle) masasabi ko lang ay talagang matulin ito para sa isang 1.6 liter car. May mga nakikita pa rin akong for sale sa buyandsell pero not sure though kung sariwa or galing sa bangga ang mga ito. So kung may nakita kang sariwa then go for it, in a few years time magiging classic na ito tulad ng galant Gti of the 90's

[finchy18]

OT lng sir may nakita ako sir nka Turbo charged.

[flakez]

considering we already have and EK(lxi), i still consider buying an SIR if i already save enough money to buy my own car. but i guess when that time comes, the SIR is already a classic. bwahahahaha

[Memphis Raines]

Just reviving this thread to get some more updated answers .

Is it still worth it to get a 1999 SiR by first quarter of 2008? 9 year old all stock, never modified, has all the original trimmings.

Some say that it's way past its prime and that newer, more aggressive variants are better bang-for-buck. But I still say that it's a classic worth keeping at least for another 5 years or so.

What do you guys think?

[ale828]

The civic Sir is still worth every penny if you find a good one that hasn't been to heavily modified. the B16a engine of the SiR is still a racing engine and best if you plan to modify it for some fun.

[aizen]

i would say ok pa rin ito lalo na kapag nakkuha ng maganda pa ang condition

[niky]

Well, what is there that's newer and more aggressive?

The new Civic 2.0 has much more torque, but it's heavier and not really any faster... besides, the older 2.0s were only automatics. The Civic 1.8 is very quick off the line, with a more linear torque range, but again, it's not as fast as an SiR. And though the new Civic has a very stiff bodyshell (good for handling), it has very soft and floaty shocks (bad for high speed handling and stability... this was also noted by the "Temple of VTEC" asia.vtec.net , a noted Asian fansite).

The Mazda3 2.0R? Slow. Focus 2.0? Same. Both great handlers, though. The Focus TDCi is too new to be had secondhand, but it'd be nice, a few years from now, to pick one up and do some chip-tuning (160-170 hp, anyone? 190-200 hp if you don't give a damn about your injectors? ).

The only possible comparison is the Lynx RS. The RS has tons more torque than the SiR and somewhat better handling. On a twisty road or in traffic, it's quicker, but the RS's engine doesn't breathe as well, and it runs out of puff at high rpms. There's much more drama in revving an SiR's motor. Although I prefer the Lynx over the SiR, modification of an RS ain't cheap (PM me and I'll give you a price list). One nice thing is, you can get a Lynx RS for not much more than an SiR, and that's with ABS, dual airbags, a sunroof and a CD Changer as standard. And with a few choice mods, it can be made as quick as an SiR (hehehe...)

But the engine was, and will always be the sore point in the RS equation... it's just not dramatic enough, and mods are limited... while the SiR's engine is its best feature... the B16A has been described as the modern Chevy V8 small block... an engine with inifinite tuning possibilities and power potential.