Isuzu NHR PV vs Kia K2700

[ibedasilentone]

Greetings Everyone,

This is my first post and I am glad I found a forum like this. Hope to find the answers and/or opinions I am looking for. I registered a while back but never got to ask any questions. But may I please ask for your help regarding the Isuzu NHR PV and Kia K2700 Panoramic 4x4?

I've done some research regarding both vehicles but I am a newbie when it comes to comparing specs.
Isuzu NHR PV (SRP 1,150,000) 2.8L
Kia K2700 (SRP 999,000) 2.7L

Could you kindly help with the following questions.
1. Does the NHR compensate for not having 4x4 with a slightly bigger engine?
2. Which would be better for family use, and hauling furniture and/or appliances? I read that both have a seating capacity of 21, but more can fit if it's a mixture of adults and children. I've also considered a large seating capacity van but the interior would get ruined with the carpet and all.
3. Which can haul more?
4. Which has a better driving experience in highways and roadways going to provinces up north, especially up steep up hills, and overtaking slow vehicles?
5. Which has better braking power for going downhill? I've seen some small trucks and big vans that have to slow down while driving downhill.
6. Which is more prone to have engine problems? I've seen some checkpoints for trucks and I'm guessing it's due to the black smoke they produce.

I would like to ask for personal experiences for both, and which would be recommended for the tasks that I plan to do with them, and if there are any other recommendations.

Apologies for the novel like post but I would like to make sure I will be getting the right vehicle for my family and utilizing it to the fullest.

Thanks in advance.

[OTEP]

1. 4x4 is for traveling on surfaces with poor traction. It does not have any effect on power output and on how the vehicle drives on surfaces with sufficient traction.

4. The Kia drives better at least for me.

5. Front disc brakes help too. The Isuzu feels like it has no brakes when you need to rapidly slow down from speed. 4 wheel drum brakes died in the 50's by the way.

6. Any truck is subject to harassment by those checkpoints even if the engine is in perfect condition. Ots the reason my pal replaced his fb with a Ranger. Too much harassment and kotong on the road. That said, the isuzu engine is pretty bulletproof. The kia 2.7 tends to overheat if neglected.

[ibedasilentone]

6. Any truck is subject to harassment by those checkpoints even if the engine is in perfect condition. Ots the reason my pal replaced his fb with a Ranger. Too much harassment and kotong on the road. That said, the isuzu engine is pretty bulletproof. The kia 2.7 tends to overheat if neglected.

Thank you sir OTEP for your response. May I please ask if even the Kia K2700 is prone to these inspections? Or do they target certain makes of vehicles, or all diesel vehicles?

TIA.

[ronw123w124]

Thank you sir OTEP for your response. May I please ask if even the Kia K2700 is prone to these inspections? Or do they target certain makes of vehicles, or all diesel vehicles?

TIA.

Yes, basta delivery vehicle mainit sa mata ng mga AsBUWAYA yan.

[ibedasilentone]

Thank you again sir for your response.

May I please ask if it's advisable to change the color of the white delivery trucks to a different color? I was just thinking if it ain't white it won't be mistaken for a delivery truck, and less prone to random inspections?

[OTEP]

Any color as long is it is a commercial vehicle is subject to kotong. Dont forget to attach a 'not for hire' sign and the gross capacity stickers on the side. Otherwise, it will be stopped also.


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[zap.FREEDOM]

Hi! ibedasilentone,

Ok, to reply on your post. I highly recommend the Kia KC2700, for some reasons...

1. obviously it is cheaper than the Isuzu NHR (for me it feels like NHR is too overprice, If I'll go for some trucks i'd rather buy a surplus unit from Subic which is a more modern still same engine that available locally here (having front disc brakes, power door locks, power window) compared to local units sell by Isuzu here

2. Interior, you gotta love the dashboard of KC2700 I swear... It is so truck like to drive but the dashboard design compensate somehow into an ambiance/aura of a sedan.

3. You can't go wrong with the engine..Kia J2 engine (same used by Kia in their previous units like Besta, Pregio and currently installed in KC2700 units) engine is somehow underrated by others (like sirain daw) but for me its not, just know how to observe of proper maintenance..It's is a hell better than those engine found in Hyundai H100 and L300 which comes on a drive belt which is an additional cost for maintenance, I've experienced to overhaul a Kia Pregio of my neighbor wayback 2013 (cause of overhaul was their driver continue to drive the van without checking the oil level that was low at that time, causing the bearings to stuck up and stall..kahit anong makina naman, pagpinabayaan mong walang langis ititirik ka talaga...)internal parts and structure is way too comparable/look-a-like to a 4JB1 Isuzu engine yes...it comes on a timing gears. parts are cheap too.

4. Just want to share an experience, since I'm also a Kia owner...We own a 17 year old Kia Besta..still no history of overhaul (alaga lang talaga), brakes are so consistent..(just got replaced some pads, shoes and rubber caps 2 years ago)...2.7 engine is great...powerful yet efficient, as far as i remember my average consumption is 14km/L (since our place here is a mixed of uphill and highway roads) and there was a time we travelled from Bicol with 5 passenger plus cargo, no problem at open air highways engine can crank up to 120kph, powerful and responsive somehow... In driving uphill I can feel its torque at second gear making an overtake at uphill climb a breeze..I never encountered those "BITIN" moments...

Please don't be mistaken that this is a biased suggestion, I'm just sharing my personal experience of owning a Kia, Well, I'm satisfied to have one.


Just to be sure, Please test drive both so you can make a wise decision.

[dct]

Any color as long is it is a commercial vehicle is subject to kotong. Dont forget to attach a 'not for hire' sign and the gross capacity stickers on the side. Otherwise, it will be stopped also.


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and also business name

[OTEP]

Lagyan mo ng pangalan ng funeral parlor. Hindi daw gano hinuhuli yun. Or gawin mong ambulance. Hehe


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[dr. d]

Lagyan mo ng pangalan ng funeral parlor. Hindi daw gano hinuhuli yun. Or gawin mong ambulance. Hehe


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policeman to driver: "you were overspeeding, sir. where did you think you were going, to a wake?"
driver of funeral car: "actually sir, yes..".

(if you don't get the joke, you're too young. heh heh)

[crazy_boy]

^gawin ko ngang ambulance L300 FB namin. Hehe

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[zap.FREEDOM]

^gawin ko ngang ambulance L300 FB namin. Hehe

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hmmm....or :D



...hehehehe!

[OTEP]

^gawin ko ngang ambulance L300 FB namin. Hehe

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Kapag sinwerte, yan ang next ambulance project namin. Pero luma na. Need to restore pa.

[crazy_boy]

Kapag sinwerte, yan ang next ambulance project namin. Pero luma na. Need to restore pa.

Guinea pig muna FB namin para sa ambulance markings niyo

Sorry OT

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[ibedasilentone]

Thank you all for your responses. I have a few other questions, once I get one of these FBs, what are the rules and/laws that I need to be aware of since this will be used a private vehicle?

I read that a sticker or sign that indicates "Not for Hire" needs to be visible, and I think the weight capacity as well. I'm still unsure what else is needed.

If I have a "Not for Hire" sign, does that mean if I help my friend deliver his Karaoke machines, we will be apprehended if authorities notice we are delivering something? I mean it's not for a business sense but just helping out a friend move something big from point a to point b. Or if we are moving furniture from house to house, would we need to register the FB as a business type vehicle or can it still be private?

[OTEP]

Thank you all for your responses. I have a few other questions, once I get one of these FBs, what are the rules and/laws that I need to be aware of since this will be used a private vehicle?

I read that a sticker or sign that indicates "Not for Hire" needs to be visible, and I think the weight capacity as well. I'm still unsure what else is needed.

If I have a "Not for Hire" sign, does that mean if I help my friend deliver his Karaoke machines, we will be apprehended if authorities notice we are delivering something? I mean it's not for a business sense but just helping out a friend move something big from point a to point b. Or if we are moving furniture from house to house, would we need to register the FB as a business type vehicle or can it still be private?

Yun friend ko naglilipat ng bahay, sinakay sa fb nila. Pinara sa daan, hinahanapan ng barangay clearance whatever yung mga dala nila kasi baka akyat bahay daw sila.

Kaya nung next round, sa Expedition na niya sinakay ang mga gamit.

[GTi]

My uncle has a frozen dimsum business. Isuzu IPV gamit nila. So far hindi pa napapara dahil sa dala niya. Walang business name na nakaindicate sa vehicle. Medyo madilim ang tint ng sasakyan. I wonder if that helps? Perhaps if you personalize the vehicle more it would less likely be a source of kotong.



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[ibedasilentone]

Thank you again for your responses. Is it legal to put super dark tints (to prevent from seeing inside) in an FB type truck? Would that attract more attention from authorities?

[OTEP]

Thank you again for your responses. Is it legal to put super dark tints (to prevent from seeing inside) in an FB type truck? Would that attract more attention from authorities?

Its not illegal but lighter tints on the front doors would aid safety and visibility. Being the cheapskates that we are, instead of tint, we had the tint shop put black sticker on some of the rear windows of our ambulance. Sure, the crew will not be able to see out, but when I left it parked, I saw some punk trying to peep inside. But its a sticker, wala siya makikita. Hehe.

[number001]

My uncle has a frozen dimsum business. Isuzu IPV gamit nila. So far hindi pa napapara dahil sa dala niya. Walang business name na nakaindicate sa vehicle. Medyo madilim ang tint ng sasakyan. I wonder if that helps? Perhaps if you personalize the vehicle more it would less likely be a source of kotong.

LTO calls this "collorum". Delivery trucks or closed vans should be used by a duly registered business to deliver the goods they manufacture or market.

Got this from a LTO insider.