HiAce or MB100 AND MB100 or Urvan Escapade?

[vhenok]

AFAIK, standard rates na yung post ni Boeing. A relative who is into this business is also going at that rate. About the VAT, not yet included yung 12% sa rate namin.

They have a variety of vans like Toyota Hi-Ace (2.4 DSL Commuter w/ 15 seater), Nissan Escapade (2.7 Engine w/ 11 seater) and the new Toyota Hiace D4D (2.5 Engine w/ 14 seater).

We do use them on family occassions kaya had the chance to drive all of them. So far, okay naman yung unang Hi-Ace Commuter, pero the interiors are very bare like bench type seats and manual lahat, even the sidings are made of lawanit, also the a/c is hirap na lumamig pag madami na ang sakay and during hot days. Engine performance is quite since I drove it to climb Baguio w/ 18 adults and 5 children, kahit papanu nakaka-overtake naman kahit paahon.

Nissan Escapade is nice choice considering hindi sya ang entry level van ng Nissan (Nissan Urvan Shuttle). They have nice upholstered seats with full reclining on the first two rows. Standard na yung fog lights, cd player and rear windshield wiper/washer. And of course, you can never go wrong with a Nissan a/c, supercool. As far as experience, medyo matakaw lang sa fuel. Merong hatak but then consumption is quite high compared sa Hiace.

For the new Hiace D4D, interiors have improved like dash-mounted shift lever, standard CD player and the 3rd/4th row seats can enter/exit via the back door. Very economical din yung consumption, kaya all praise ako for this model. Oopps, ngapala D4D ito!

[project-D]

id go for URVAN.... kse my nsaskyan me MB100 mganda nga xa comfortable pero nag overheat. tska ms hirap xa sa ahunan....

[ronw123w124]

we used to own a hiace, we sold it recently, pero lakas pa rin kahit 200,000km na ang takbo, in more than 10 yrs that we owned it yung cooling coil lang ang nasira pero after that wala nang nasira considering medyo "abused" yung sa min, I remember taking it to Baguio when it was new, sa patag MB100's were lording it over at that time (wala pa Starex that time), pero nung akyayan na sa Kennon rd, iniwan ko yung mga MB, di sila makadikit considering we had 10 adult passengers plus baggages, the only thing that was trailing me on my way up was a rundown 1970's Hiace.

[bogart_seph]

i think the hi-ace,urvan(escapade), and the mb100 have their ups end downs!we have an mb100 and it serves as well! rusting is the only problem with our mb! if you have the money,then choose the hi-ace or the urvan!the mb is much cheaper!

[chr1smj_15]

naks! todo advice sep ha! sundin nyo to matanda na to marami ng karanasan 'to... bwahahahaha!

[bogart_seph]

kaya makinig k sken! wag kana mambabae!!!nyahaahahaha!

[chr1smj_15]

uy! bawiin mo un! mamaya maniwala si kumander yari ako don! eto aabutin ko...

[project-D]

tma mo ung cnabi mo ron, tlgang hirap sa ahunan MB100 alm ko ung kenon rd.... mtnde mga ahunan dun....

[OTEP]

Ok naman sa ahunan ang MB100 if you climb using the tachometer and not your ears.

That's the problem with most drivers. They think the engine noise is a bad omen and tend to back off the throttle or upshift prematurely. It's not. I've done Baguio numerous times in an MB100. I don't care about the engine racket, I just read the tach.

It's the same technique used by bus drivers since they cannot hear the sound of the rear mounted engines. They just base shift points on the tach.

[SELEGNA_35]

wla naman ako problema sa ahunan sa MB100, dala namin sa bundok ng subic loaded kayang kaya wala ngang usok. hindi ko pa nga lang nasubukan sa Baguio. I guess depende sa driver yan.

[vhenok]

Ok naman sa ahunan ang MB100 if you climb using the tachometer and not your ears.

That's the problem with most drivers. They think the engine noise is a bad omen and tend to back off the throttle or upshift prematurely. It's not. I've done Baguio numerous times in an MB100. I don't care about the engine racket, I just read the tach.

It's the same technique used by bus drivers since they cannot hear the sound of the rear mounted engines. They just base shift points on the tach.

Onga, meron parang buzzer na kapag tumutunog, dun lang sila nagsi-shift ng gears.

[javinjavril]

Meron kami ditong '04 na Urvan Escapade. Nasakyan ko na rin yung MB100 and yung Hiace Commuter 2.4DSL tsaka dati meron rin kami Hiace Commuter 2.5 D-4D.

Yung Urvan ok naman, reliable siya hindi sirain. Pero problema mahina yung makina. Pagabot ng mga 115 km/h tsaka nung paakyat kami ng Baguio pati Tagaytay nagooverheat. Pero pinalitan na namin yung cooling system niya kaya kahit umabot ng 130 km/h tsaka paakyat ng Baguio with A/C on ok lang walang problema. Isa pang problema yung engine noise niya, maingay pero mas maingay parin yung MB100. Yung '04 wala pa yung plastic "taillight extension" which is added nung '06. Mas ok kung wala yun, ngayon tinangal na yata yun eh Comfortable siya like the MB100, hindi masikip yung upuan. Sa Commuter (old and new) sobrang sikip yung mga upuan.

Yung 2.5 D-4D na Commuter maganda performance. Malakas ang hatak wlang sinabi yung Urvan tsaka MB100. Best of all, commonrail diesel engine niya so tahimik siya, mas powerful, mas fuel efficient, mas maganda . Yung audio system niya (Fujitsu Ten OEM) may CD player na pero 2-speakers lang. At least hindi lata gaya ng Urvan (Clarion sa '04 model w/o CD, ewan ko lang sa '06+). Problema lang talaga nito, napakasikip ng legroom sa rear seats. Reliable rin siya tsaka maganda resale value niya.

So, Hiace or MB100 -- Hiace ako. MB100 or Urvan -- Urvan ako. Hiace or Urvan -- mas comfortable yung Urvan pag passenger ka, pero mas masarap idrive yung Hiace -- so, dalawa pwede.

[project-D]

matulin nag MB pg rektahan na hnde ako umabot