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    #21
    kung mid-size SUV ang hanap at brand new,

    2015 na po kayo kumuha, lalabas na yung mga new models from different brand. (saka enough time to stretch out sa budget)
    at makakapili na po kayo.

    Sa 1.7M budget ceiling, kung medyo nagmamadali na kayo bumili, at possible i-stretch out ang budget at least 100K,

    kung sa diesel engine, TB, saka Alterra,
    if gasoline naman, Subaru forester, or FJ cruiser.

    kung open naman kayo for second hand.

    either pajero BK or nissan patrol.

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    #22
    With the following requirements:

    Budget is <1.7M
    Purpose: Daily drive to school and work.
    point to consider when buying are:
    Fuel Consumption
    Drive Comfort
    Maintenance Cost
    Parts(in case na masiraan)
    Enjoyment

    Open to other options, maybe adding bells & whistles into a fine car. If I have that budget, I'd get a Mazda6. It would not be in the Best10 of Car and Driver if it's not that good.

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    #23
    Bat ang hilig ng mga tao magpaextend ng budget 😂

    Unang una, di naman kailangan ng 4x4. Di rin kailangan ng mabilis. For me a Fort 2.5 or Montero GLS-V is more than enough for your needs. Malaki pa naman discount sa Montero.

    Definitely, the Forester is comfier and more fun to drive compared to the Fort/MS. But is also pricier and more of a gas-guzzler.

    Truck-based SUVs are really hard to beat when it comes to practicality and value-for-money.

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Bat ang hilig ng mga tao magpaextend ng budget 😂

    Unang una, di naman kailangan ng 4x4. Di rin kailangan ng mabilis. For me a Fort 2.5 or Montero GLS-V is more than enough for your needs. Malaki pa naman discount sa Montero.

    Definitely, the Forester is comfier and more fun to drive compared to the Fort/MS. But is also pricier and more of a gas-guzzler.

    Truck-based SUVs are really hard to beat when it comes to practicality and value-for-money.
    I agree with that. I think baka mag fortuner nalang ako or montero just going to look for a dealer na maganda ang offer nalang

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    #25
    If you need a fortuner just PM me

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    #26
    I see that a category you have is enjoyment to drive, in my own opinion, you'd get that from driving a RAV4 or Forester more than a Montero Sport or Fortuner. I own a '10 Montero Sport GLS AT, and I don't find it that enjoyable to drive. I feel like I am driving our previous Revo. The interior is spartan, thin steering wheel, no reach and rake option, even the windows does not have the regular one push option. Driving it around is also difficult, like I used to do a U-turn in C5(just after Valle Verde) on a daily basis, and the Montero with it's length can't do it in one go. Also don't get me started in parking, coz it is always an adventure to do that. During the annual registration too, even if I religiously follow my PMS schedule and top up with Unioil's Euro4 diesel, it always fail during the emission exam. To date, my Montero has only rung up close to 20,000kms, which is roughly just 5,000kms/year. In comparison, my gas-fed cars are on track in accumulating 10,000kms/year because I find them more enjoyable to drive and use them more than my Monty.

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    ^^^
    OT: Thanks for sharing bro. So I guess, hindi pala kame nagkamali sa pagpili sa Fortuner way back 2010. Fort at MS kasi pinagpipilian namin dati, MS ang gusto ko pero minsan nagtext sakin father ko na nakabili na daw siya at Fort daw pinili niya. Malamang kung Monty din ang nabili namin eh baka mausok na yun, minsan lang din namin magamit eh. 19,5XX kms pa lang natatakbo up to now.

    BTT: Malapit na lumabas yung bagong Fortuner bro, baka pag nakita mo concept nang all new eh magsisi ka at masabi mo pang sana naghintay ka na lang ng bagong model. Pero malamang kung magReveal naman sa 2015 eh baka MU-X ang mangyare jan. Mahaba ang waiting list.

    Sa Monty naman may nababasa ako blanking ng EGR, para yata yun hindi na maging mausok. Parehas naman maganda yung unit at reliable. Kung anung brand na lang ang makakapagbigay ng mas magandang offer eh yun na lang kunin mo.

    Just my 2 cents

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    #28
    Sa province lugar namin only toyota and mitsubishi have easy access to service centers for pms. And now ung ford nagtayo na din ng service center malapit sa min. Kaya ang everest 2015 ang top choice kung bibili kmi bago. Peace po

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Newcomer123 View Post
    Adding "Enjoyment" in the specs mean the thrill of the drive.

    A bit more budget nets you the Forester xt and the WRX, & Toyota's FT Cruiser. But if limited to 1.7M, it's got to be the GT86 or the Genesis Coupe. Gray market Velosters are also within that price point.

    Also, curious as to why select the mid variants for your list, whereas you could go all the way with the TOTL 4X4 versions of them, allowing you to "enjoy" a bit of off-road action.
    Suv na ba ang gt86 at genesis coupe? Dahil ba may "sports" sa "suv"?

    Pang work and school daw, so di nya need ang 4x4. Why would the ts spend an extra 100k for something that he will not use?

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    Suv na ba ang gt86 at genesis coupe? Dahil ba may "sports" sa "suv"?

    Pang work and school daw, so di nya need ang 4x4. Why would the ts spend an extra 100k for something that he will not use?
    Simple lang naman. Nung dinagdag nya sa specs ang "enjoyment" napaisip ako...

    Hindi nga naman enjoy magbyahe sa trapik, kahit pa Mustang dala mo maghatid sa bata at pumasok. so hindi city driving ang tinuturing nya dito. Saka basa ko sa TS eh, advanced driver kaya nya nilagay yun sa specs nya...

    Syempre, anu-ano ba ang 'enjoy' moments sa pag-maneho? Karera syempre, mag BRC paminsan minsan o matutong mag drift. tapos nandyan din ang weekend off-road ka sa Pinatubo trail o sa Buhanginan sa Norte, o tumulong sa mga na-Yolanda at pasukin ang mga wasak na kalye. Yun ang basehan ng mga nabanggit kong modelo, pangarera at pang putik.

    Eh malay ko ba na pang party pala with close friends ang gusto nyang enjoy. Kaya nung huli kong post, pati van sinama ko na, para dala lahat barkada saka estudyante nya, me bitbit pang mga aso... ^^

    Well, nakapili na naman si TS so when he's happy, happy na rin tayo.

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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by andrewnathaniel View Post
    ^^^
    OT: Thanks for sharing bro. So I guess, hindi pala kame nagkamali sa pagpili sa Fortuner way back 2010. Fort at MS kasi pinagpipilian namin dati, MS ang gusto ko pero minsan nagtext sakin father ko na nakabili na daw siya at Fort daw pinili niya. Malamang kung Monty din ang nabili namin eh baka mausok na yun, minsan lang din namin magamit eh. 19,5XX kms pa lang natatakbo up to now.

    BTT: Malapit na lumabas yung bagong Fortuner bro, baka pag nakita mo concept nang all new eh magsisi ka at masabi mo pang sana naghintay ka na lang ng bagong model. Pero malamang kung magReveal naman sa 2015 eh baka MU-X ang mangyare jan. Mahaba ang waiting list.

    Sa Monty naman may nababasa ako blanking ng EGR, para yata yun hindi na maging mausok. Parehas naman maganda yung unit at reliable. Kung anung brand na lang ang makakapagbigay ng mas magandang offer eh yun na lang kunin mo.

    Just my 2 cents
    If I can trade my Monty to the current Fort G AT for free, I'll do that I like the LC200-inspired look.

    For EGR blanking, I have a friend who did it in his Monty but got a CEL. Which was why I didn't consider it as an option. It's just that, the emission center douchebags know the weakness of the Monty, rev it hard, smoke will puff out of the exhaust. I feel my SUV is being abused every year when I get to register it.

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    #32
    Quote Originally Posted by andrewnathaniel View Post
    ^^^
    OT: Thanks for sharing bro. So I guess, hindi pala kame nagkamali sa pagpili sa Fortuner way back 2010. Fort at MS kasi pinagpipilian namin dati, MS ang gusto ko pero minsan nagtext sakin father ko na nakabili na daw siya at Fort daw pinili niya. Malamang kung Monty din ang nabili namin eh baka mausok na yun, minsan lang din namin magamit eh. 19,5XX kms pa lang natatakbo up to now.

    BTT: Malapit na lumabas yung bagong Fortuner bro, baka pag nakita mo concept nang all new eh magsisi ka at masabi mo pang sana naghintay ka na lang ng bagong model. Pero malamang kung magReveal naman sa 2015 eh baka MU-X ang mangyare jan. Mahaba ang waiting list.

    Sa Monty naman may nababasa ako blanking ng EGR, para yata yun hindi na maging mausok. Parehas naman maganda yung unit at reliable. Kung anung brand na lang ang makakapagbigay ng mas magandang offer eh yun na lang kunin mo.

    Just my 2 cents
    narinig ko din yan about sa update ng fortuner. new engine daw and transmission ata yung update next time. pero i think ok na yung 144ps ng current gen, hindi ko din naman maeextend yung pag gamit since everywhere traffic dito.
    salamat sa payo, i think i will get the fortuner next year mid April or May.

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    #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Newcomer123 View Post
    Simple lang naman. Nung dinagdag nya sa specs ang "enjoyment" napaisip ako...

    Hindi nga naman enjoy magbyahe sa trapik, kahit pa Mustang dala mo maghatid sa bata at pumasok. so hindi city driving ang tinuturing nya dito. Saka basa ko sa TS eh, advanced driver kaya nya nilagay yun sa specs nya...

    Syempre, anu-ano ba ang 'enjoy' moments sa pag-maneho? Karera syempre, mag BRC paminsan minsan o matutong mag drift. tapos nandyan din ang weekend off-road ka sa Pinatubo trail o sa Buhanginan sa Norte, o tumulong sa mga na-Yolanda at pasukin ang mga wasak na kalye. Yun ang basehan ng mga nabanggit kong modelo, pangarera at pang putik.

    Eh malay ko ba na pang party pala with close friends ang gusto nyang enjoy. Kaya nung huli kong post, pati van sinama ko na, para dala lahat barkada saka estudyante nya, me bitbit pang mga aso... ^^

    Well, nakapili na naman si TS so when he's happy, happy na rin tayo.
    he has a point, i will definitely get a BRZ or WRX if pwede lang, pero mas prefer ko ngayon is SUV para kahit bumaha man mas kayang idaan. and just to clarify things up. 21 y.o. palang po ako and still a student. hehehe

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    #34
    Quote Originally Posted by sientobente View Post
    If I can trade my Monty to the current Fort G AT for free, I'll do that I like the LC200-inspired look.

    For EGR blanking, I have a friend who did it in his Monty but got a CEL. Which was why I didn't consider it as an option. It's just that, the emission center douchebags know the weakness of the Monty, rev it hard, smoke will puff out of the exhaust. I feel my SUV is being abused every year when I get to register it.
    Whats a CEL?

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    #35
    tama yung nag suggest ng montero and fort(stick to the choices)

    caveat emptor- tama din ang sinabi ng isa na this vehicles, are nearing the end of it's life(design).

    consider the crossover(small) only when your:
    -single
    -as a 2nd car
    -as a toy(easy to drive small enough for those crap arse metro manila traffic good acceleration to avoid puv's and trucks)

    but the fort and montero gets my vote

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    #36
    Quote Originally Posted by babybackrivs View Post
    Whats a CEL?
    Check Engine Light

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    #37
    Quote Originally Posted by tetsurr View Post
    Hi!

    I'm planning to buy my 1st car in the near future, but I'm can't decide between the following Car to choose from.
    Choices:
    2015 Toyota Fortuner 2.5 V
    2014 Mitsubishi Montero Sport GLS-V
    2014 Toyota Rav4 4x2 Full Option
    2014 Subaru Forester 2.0i-Premium
    Budget is <1.7M
    Purpose: Daily drive to school and work.
    point to consider when buying are:
    Fuel Consumption
    Drive Comfort
    Maintenance Cost
    Parts(in case na masiraan)
    Enjoyment.
    Di ako makapagdecide in which car that i would buy for myself.
    and any suggestion of dealership na maganda ang offer nila (in quezon city or near)
    also shop na magandang offer nila sa mga accessories for the cars said above.


    thank you and more power mga katsikot !
    Ngayon na ba? Current MS, Fort or Rav4. If I were you antayin ko na all new Fort then decide.

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    #38
    I'd go with the Montero. It's got commendable interior room, good ride quality and engine performance. I find it more modern than the Fort overall.

    We have a Strada GLS Sport V. Did nothing with the EGR. We regularly load up with Seaoil Euro 4 diesel. Never notice any black smoke.

    Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

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    #39
    Primary choice would be the Montero. I have no idea about the variants now but back when i got mine, the only choices were glx, gls and gls se. (i got the gls,4x2 matic)

    With the pics i see that are being posted now there are so many toys available for the 4x2 variant (navi,paddle shifts,cruise control,etc etc)

    So for the price, i guess it is the bang for the buck option.

    But IF ever TOTL variants are lined up, then Trailblazer LTZ gets my vote because of all its safety features.

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    #40
    Quote Originally Posted by bougartt View Post
    Primary choice would be the Montero. I have no idea about the variants now but back when i got mine, the only choices were glx, gls and gls se. (i got the gls,4x2 matic)

    With the pics i see that are being posted now there are so many toys available for the 4x2 variant (navi,paddle shifts,cruise control,etc etc)

    So for the price, i guess it is the bang for the buck option.

    But IF ever TOTL variants are lined up, then Trailblazer LTZ gets my vote because of all its safety features.
    Totally agree on this one. If you're gonna get a 4x4, get the TB LTZ indeed.

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