HELP... honda jazz vs hyundai 1.6 crdi (all mt) dilemma

[quetzalcoat]

Hi fellow tsikoteers. been having this dilemma since last week. we've sold our old and faithful mazda 323 95' model and we're planning to get a new car this february. the criteria for my choices would be first and foremost the FC of the car, next would be the ride, then last but not the least may porma naman. currently we had two choices, yung 1.3 jazz mt na 2012, and yung papalabas na hyundai crdi, both are in manual form. since we're shelling out a decent amount of cash, we also need a worry free car. (i know some people with really deep pockets would not think of the 750k as a big thing) but for us it's a huge sum. d naman kami mayaman eh, ! any advise guys and gals of the choices we've had? other inputs and models are welcome as well, budget would be 750k max, could stretch it for at least 10k more. by the way we're from iloilo and traffic here is somewhat light compare to those in metro manila. the jazz would've been my runaway winner pero we're having thoughts pa on the new hyundai accent crdi, diesel kasi mas mura kumpara sa gas. the only thing stopping us was the engine knock issue on previous accents 1.4 ba yun na gas? hirap naman pag ganun, pabalik balik ka sa casa, and parang nawala na yung essence na you did bought a brand new car para hassle free if casa pa rin naman bagsak mo. TIA sa lahat ng mga suggestions and tips.

[dct]

kung ako sana, accent crdi pipiliin ko. almost same price tapos diesel. pero primary requirement mo talaga yung worry free, yung talagang sure, sa jazz na lang. hindi natin alam kung magkakaroon ng problem ang accent e. pero kung makakaantay pa naman kayo, antayin na lang and observe sa mga owners

[quetzalcoat]

thx bro dct, yun nga ang sabi ko sa parents ko wait for the comments ng mga makakauna sa crdi accent. dapat naman talaga sana worry free kasi nga brand new, and dapat maganda after sales, hindi gaya ng mga nababasa ko minsan dito parang sumasakit na ulo ko just thinking the hassle na pinagdaraanan ng ibang tsikoteer dito with the accent having issues sa engine. kahit nga sana yung mga door locks dapat d pumapalya eh. atleast kahit naman sana mag 1 year muna yung sasakyan bago pumalya mga door locks, iba kasi dito kakakuha lang ng sasakyan ayaw na mag lock nung doors eh. kaka worry lang kasi

[dct]

^maaga rin ang 1 year worry free. haha. sana man lang 3 years. anyway, tama naman sabi ni sir boy37 ang ganda ng diesel engine ng hyundai. kaya lang sa sobrang ganda baka magkaproblema sa dumi ng fuel natin dito. antay na lang muna. worth it naman siguro antayin ng mga 3 months. sigurado naman may bibili dito sa tsikot

[quetzalcoat]

yup ganun na nga siguro mangyayari hehe. antay antay and pigil gigil muna. oo nga no? i've read sa mga comments ni sir niky yung not cooling down the turbo before turning off. don't have any idea kung ano yun, siguro may way sa pag alaga ng turbo engines. yup sir boy pansin ko nga hyundai accent na unang model na diesel lakas humatak, i remember when i was on my way pa office, lagi ko binabantayan diesel na accent cab. pagkasakay ko tinatanong ko palagi drive na manong d daw makahabol vios dito? yung driver naman eager to show the power, shift sa lower gear then biglang hataw, i could feel the torque of the accent, dikit na dikit ako sa upuan hehe.

[dct]

sa traffic dito satin no need na antayin before shutting off. hehe. pero pag humataw ka, ayun, dapat antay ka mga 3 min. lalo na pag highway tapos diretso sa gas station. basta pag malapit na sa destination, relax driving na

[joemarski]

hintay na nga lang muna sir quetz... very promising kasi itong hyundai na ito.
simula pa noong mabasa ko sa autoindustriya.com
Hyundai Philippines previews the Accent Hatchback - Auto News by AutoIndustriya.com
sana lang, gumanda ang after sales service ng hyundai. hassle talaga kung imbes na ginagamit
mo na ang sasakyan mo eh nandoon sa "operating room" ng hyundai.
patience is virtue... malay natin matulad ito sa "mitsu mirage" na talaga namang
magaganda ang owner's feedback...

[b0y37]

Hi fellow tsikoteers. been having this dilemma since last week. we've sold our old and faithful mazda 323 95' model and we're planning to get a new car this february. the criteria for my choices would be first and foremost the FC of the car, next would be the ride, then last but not the least may porma naman. currently we had two choices, yung 1.3 jazz mt na 2012, and yung papalabas na hyundai crdi, both are in manual form. since we're shelling out a decent amount of cash, we also need a worry free car. (i know some people with really deep pockets would not think of the 750k as a big thing) but for us it's a huge sum. d naman kami mayaman eh, ! any advise guys and gals of the choices we've had? other inputs and models are welcome as well, budget would be 750k max, could stretch it for at least 10k more. by the way we're from iloilo and traffic here is somewhat light compare to those in metro manila. the jazz would've been my runaway winner pero we're having thoughts pa on the new hyundai accent crdi, diesel kasi mas mura kumpara sa gas. the only thing stopping us was the engine knock issue on previous accents 1.4 ba yun na gas? hirap naman pag ganun, pabalik balik ka sa casa, and parang nawala na yung essence na you did bought a brand new car para hassle free if casa pa rin naman bagsak mo. TIA sa lahat ng mga suggestions and tips.

Sir, wala pong knocking issues ang diesel. Since knocking is somehow part of normal diesel operation (Engine knocking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). And IMO, diesel talaga ang forte ni Hyundai. Pansinin mo yung diesel engines nila, mas advanced at malalakas compared sa diesel ng Mitsubishi, Toyota, Ford.

Things to watch out for sa CRDI engines are premature turbo (VGT) failure, injection failure. Pero kung titingnan mo sa thread ng 2006-2010 Accent diesel, wala naman silang nirereport na major problems.

Assuming na walang issues itong Accent, sa Accent na ako.

[granro01]

Just a follow up, VGT turbo failures mostly occur if you immediately shut your engine after a heavy engine running (100kph and up). Immediate shuting down of engines failes to lubricate the delicate parts of the turbo. Solution is the installation of turbo timer kung malilimutin ka..

Second is the use of inferior engine oil not supporting turbo's. The highest engine oil API rating so far for diesel is API CI-4 and is really best for heavy duty diesel turbo engines.

[quetzalcoat]

salamat sa mga nag reply, tama si sir valskie, 110k kms without engine problems is okay na. sa amin kasi swerte na siguro maka 500kms sa isang buwan. hehe. nasa hyundai side na kami mga sir, ala pa nga lang actual unit ng crdi accent dito sa iloilo. to sir granro01 salamat sa mga tips, would keep that in mind, btw nag iinstall ba mga casa ng turbo timer na yan? sorry no idea po kasi, but i do know the purpose of the turbo time, d ko lang alam if ginagawa nila sa casa yan.

[beni23]

HONDA>hyundai

Not a honda fan boy though.

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[quetzalcoat]

thx sir beni, well aside from the two mentioned sir meron ka bang pwede isuggest at 750k price range? kindly share sir if meron, might as well look into it para malawak pipilian namin.

[Boy Bastos]

thx sir beni, well aside from the two mentioned sir meron ka bang pwede isuggest at 750k price range? kindly share sir if meron, might as well look into it para malawak pipilian namin.

Opinion ko lang. Correct me na lang if mali. 1995 model ang car mo. Is it bought brand new? Limited budget pa. If yes, then long term user ka so dapat choose a car that is cheaper to maintain in 10-15years period.

Maintenance cost ng 10 years old CRDI engine ay isama mo na rin. Mabilis masira ang nozzle ng diesel compare sa gasoline. If alam mo ang cost ng isang Hyundai CRDI nozzle, clue - 5 digits, then you know the rest. :D But hindi mo rin alam if bababa ang price after 10 years.

[b0y37]

thx sir beni, well aside from the two mentioned sir meron ka bang pwede isuggest at 750k price range? kindly share sir if meron, might as well look into it para malawak pipilian namin.

Mitsubishi Lancer EX 1.6 MT after discount, around 770k. Good reviews din.

[b0y37]

Mataas pa rin ang resale value ng diesel accents. Reliable kasi, at tipid sa krudo, kaya kaunting owners ang nagbebenta ng units nila. Same with Getz CRDI na unang lumabas.

[quetzalcoat]

ganun nga sir bayen sa mga reviews sa jazz, the undisputed ult which makes the jazz spacious and flexible. i've read somewhere sa hyundai thread may owner don 2007 accent follow niya lang pms niya then palit fuel filter and check egr every 20k kms, ok padin daw accent nya till now, has around 110k sa odo. yup si dct, test drive na lang both units para magkaalaman na hehe, had tried jazz last week, yung hyundai accent crdi d pa nakakarating dito samin, antay na lang muna para maka test drive. got to eye the ex na rin sir boy, kasi ngayong 2012 lang lumabas yung 1.6 variant nila na ex db? correct me na lang sir if im wrong, and yup kahit sa mga 2nd hand car dealers medyo madalang hyundai accent na crdi, either sobrang tipid talaga ng accent or kaka addict ifloor yung pedal hehe. thx sa suggestions guys, will give updates as soon as magka crdi na dito sa iloilo.

[beni23]

thx sir beni, well aside from the two mentioned sir meron ka bang pwede isuggest at 750k price range? kindly share sir if meron, might as well look into it para malawak pipilian namin.

Ok na yang choice mo na jazz. Pero kung ako lang pagpipiliin, dadagdagan ko na lang ng konti at yung lancer ex 1.6 kukunin ko. 825k before discount yung base model.

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[quetzalcoat]

tinitingnan ko nga yung lancer ex 1.6 medyo maangas kasi porma eh hehe. it all boils down after the test drive tho, we're leaning a bit sa hyundai due to the crdi engine, pero pag may available na unit na dito and after ng test drive at medyo d satisfied then it's jazz or ex. thx sa mga inputs guys, really appreciated the efforts.

[lui]

kung fc talaga main concern ninyo sir sa accent na tlaga. safe choice yung jazz pero for sure mas mahal sya i operate in terms of fuel cost

[ohhhace]

i was also highly considering the accent hatch + crdi last year, pero sobrang tagal i-launch so made up my mind and got the jazz. very happy with it

good choice ang accent crdi, at least on paper. IMHO though, let it pass a few months after launch, before you actually get it since reliability is a major consideration. i don't think uso dito sa atin ang extensive public road testing prior to full launch. as mentioned ng iba, let it get some real-world experience and feedback.

btw, Unioil has euro-4 diesel. additional choice for clean diesel. Total din alam ko okay ang diesel.

if walang maging problema, all the more you should get it. (i'm still looking fwd to test-driving this car.) good luck