Thanks guys! it is kinda tough to look for something fun to drive when you're working under a budget. Anyway, thanks again for your input. the 4G63 of the Galant is what really draws me to it, now if only i could find one that has been well maintained (and still within budget!) then i guess it would be a closed deal. One last question, hehe, we really want to build up the car so we could throw it around sideways a lot (even if it is an FF), would the size of the GTi be a problem? I used to own a 1990 AE92 (gl) and it was a pretty good car around the curves. I know the GTi already has a good engine but will it be as fun to drive round the bends? I don't have much experience with the B13 sentra, would it be a good platform for the touges? thanks again...