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    Hi guys i would like to ask which is a good buy for me as a primary Car. I dont mind about fuel consumption or the increasing gas prices. What matters to me are the following
    -how realible are they? Radiator, compressor?
    -parts? Easy to find in banawe and not that expensive?
    -last is NVH and how they can handle the very rough roads of metro manila?
    I know fortuner gas could do all that but trying to get out of the toyota brand since me and my dad drives a toyota already. Is the forester's underchassis solid enough which i can drive through pot holes?
    And last, is it true that there are rattles on the dash in pajero if you drive it through some pot holes or rough roads of metro manila?
    This will be my primary car/pang harabas and be selling my 2012 hilux which was great in pot holes but matagtag. No more diesel i just hate how it clutters
    All your suggestions will be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
    Last edited by i'm CARLOver; January 19th, 2018 at 07:06 PM. Reason: W

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    xt... hands down

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    I'll go for Forester.

    (Sayang talaga, better luck next time na lang ako).

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    Forester but try to consider the explorer and cx9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_cube View Post
    Forester but try to consider the explorer and cx9.

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    If you really need a comfortable 7-seater, then Go with a CX9 or Explorer or Pilot. If you want a quick and fast 7-seater, go with the Explorer Sport 3.5L V6 Ecoboost.


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    Thank you for the inputs sir.
    So forester is fine with the bumpy roads. Like if i go through some potholes my suspension wont sound clunky like some of the sedans? I fell in love with the cx9 but i would say pass for it. My heart belongs to the forester but my dad argued with me of how easy i could get parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i'm CARLOver View Post
    Thank you for the inputs sir.
    So forester is fine with the bumpy roads. Like if i go through some potholes my suspension wont sound clunky like some of the sedans? I fell in love with the cx9 but i would say pass for it. My heart belongs to the forester but my dad argued with me of how easy i could get parts.
    clunky sedans? baka hindi lng maintained? or defective bushings. most sedans and crossovers use McPherson struts. the major difference is the length of travel.

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    Join Subaru Forester and XV(SFX) club of the Philippines in Facebook and see owner's different experiences in owning a Forester. Rides will get clunky with age, and suspension part wear. Just don't expect the Subaru underchassis to last like the Hilux's especially when you drive like a madman over potholes. Give it a year and your bushings would need earlier replacement, driving in those said conditions.

    There have been accounts of people from Subaru forums having their mechanic run to Banawe and bring a needed part to try and match it, but I haven't seen anyone mention that in SFX. Either Fusion R has it, an OEM or replacement is readily available from a vendor or a local shop, or you have to order it online. Most of the time, its cheaper ordering online, like that stupid headlight that costs 90k from Motor Image and costs..3/4 for both pairs? Have to double check .
    Last edited by Calistro; January 19th, 2018 at 10:05 PM.

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    Same with Mr. Big. We are happy Forester XT owners. It drives like a big compact car with a high ground clearance. Those other two are no match against the Forester XT in terms of performance.


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    Last edited by Egan101; January 19th, 2018 at 07:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Same with Mr. Big. We are happy Forester XT owners. It drives like a big compact car with a high ground clearance. Those other two are no match against the Forester XT in terms of performance.


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    This is only natural. Of course the Forester's small engine comes with a turbocharger and a much lighter so it will be obviously quicker than the other 2 which are much heavier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    This is only natural. Of course the Forester's small engine comes with a turbocharger and a much lighter so it will be obviously quicker than the other 2 which are much heavier.
    It is not just a small engine with a turbocharger. That 2.0L turbo is the same one on the WRX but tuned only at 240hp/350Nm. Aside from the WRX, what other vehicle priced at below 2M can you get that amount of power paired with an intelligent AWD?

    The bigger Outback with its older 2.5L non turbo engine offer better performance than a Fort.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    It is not just a small engine with a turbocharger. That 2.0L turbo is the same one on the WRX but tuned only at 240hp/350Nm. Aside from the WRX, what other vehicle priced at below 2M can you get that amount of power paired with an intelligent AWD?

    The bigger Outback with its older 2.5L non turbo engine offer better performance than a Fort.


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    Bro. When is the ascent coming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Bro. When is the ascent coming?

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    Sabi ni Motor Image, for North America market daw muna yung Ascent.

    Subaru should use that new 2.4L turbo engine on the next generation FXT and Outback.


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    Forester XT for me.....with eyesight functionality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
    Forester XT for me.....with eyesight functionality.

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    Na iimpress ka pa pala bro sa commoner's car. Hehe

    Btt; pajero for comfort and commanding presence.

    XT for blistering fast performancr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlancNoir View Post
    Na iimpress ka pa pala bro sa commoner's car. Hehe

    Btt; pajero for comfort and commanding presence.

    XT for blistering fast performancr.

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    Im a subaru fanboy. Had the Legacy GT wagon turbo (prior model to the current one) and the previous and current gen subaru forester turbos. The previous model with the 4AT transmission really gave a kick on the pants when it accelerated. But it was very bare and the NVH wasnt any good. The current one is full of tech and the ride is much quieter and smoother. Though it didnt 'feel' as fast as the prior one because of the CVT. The big 2.5 displacement of the prior model also helped make it have more torque down low in the rev range.

    But all things considered....the new FXT is the best crossover in its price range. Nothing can come close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
    Im a subaru fanboy. Had the Legacy GT wagon turbo (prior model to the current one) and the previous and current gen subaru forester turbos. The previous model with the 4AT transmission really gave a kick on the pants when it accelerated. But it was very bare and the NVH wasnt any good. The current one is full of tech and the ride is much quieter and smoother. Though it didnt 'feel' as fast as the prior one because of the CVT. The big 2.5 displacement of the prior model also helped make it have more torque down low in the rev range.

    But all things considered....the new FXT is the best crossover in its price range. Nothing can come close.

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    Hehe the SH9's acceleration really is something else. Sabi nga nila "it's now how fast you're going, but it's how you get there"

    True, at its current price point, no japs can match it in terms of performance. You'd have to get yourself a german car, think X3 and Q5 (also think 4 to 5 million).

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    Quote Originally Posted by i'm CARLOver View Post
    Hi guys i would like to ask which is a good buy for me as a primary Car. I dont mind about fuel consumption or the increasing gas prices. What matters to me are the following
    -how realible are they? Radiator, compressor?
    -parts? Easy to find in banawe and not that expensive?
    -last is NVH and how they can handle the very rough roads of metro manila?
    I know fortuner gas could do all that but trying to get out of the toyota brand since me and my dad drives a toyota already. Is the forester's underchassis solid enough which i can drive through pot holes?
    And last, is it true that there are rattles on the dash in pajero if you drive it through some pot holes or rough roads of metro manila?
    This will be my primary car/pang harabas and be selling my 2012 hilux which was great in pot holes but matagtag. No more diesel i just hate how it clutters
    All your suggestions will be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

    Nakakabwisit yung pagka tunog lata ng diesel noh.... hahahah

    Ang advice ko sayo FJ Cruiser...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Nakakabwisit yung pagka tunog lata ng diesel noh.... hahahah

    Ang advice ko sayo FJ Cruiser...
    Yup true parang truck pag binirit, But dont get me wrong the advantage of these diesel are great milleage and torque but "for me" its really just noisy even the new diesel of toyota.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i'm CARLOver View Post
    Hi guys i would like to ask which is a good buy for me as a primary Car. I dont mind about fuel consumption or the increasing gas prices. What matters to me are the following
    -how realible are they? Radiator, compressor?
    -parts? Easy to find in banawe and not that expensive?
    -last is NVH and how they can handle the very rough roads of metro manila?
    I know fortuner gas could do all that but trying to get out of the toyota brand since me and my dad drives a toyota already. Is the forester's underchassis solid enough which i can drive through pot holes?
    And last, is it true that there are rattles on the dash in pajero if you drive it through some pot holes or rough roads of metro manila?
    This will be my primary car/pang harabas and be selling my 2012 hilux which was great in pot holes but matagtag. No more diesel i just hate how it clutters
    All your suggestions will be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
    if fortuner fits the bill, then go get one more!
    what's wrong with having two good things?

    "among the many questionable judgements i have heard, this one is among the top."
    translation: "maraming ganyan mag-isip".
    apologies for the un-kind words.

    let us put it this way: you both can share spare parts.
    Last edited by dr. d; January 20th, 2018 at 12:48 AM.

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