Focus TDCi vs ASX

[jut703]

I've got a friend who's in the market for a car right now. Initially he wanted the Fiesta. However, his parents warned against it as it was too small especially for long drives. Hence, the choice now is either the TDCi or the ASX.

He argues that the Focus is due to be replaced soon and buying one now might be a waste of money, but he can't wait for the new one. He's also leaning towards the ASX because he says it can trudge shin high floods (flood often at their place) safely enough to get the car home, whereas the Focus won't be able to do likewise, as the ASX has 10cm more clearance.

I would still personally go for the Focus though. I don't really see the practicality of the ASX. I would bet the Focus has more interior space. And is more fuel efficient.

What do you guys think? Other info about him is that he's a tall guy and a college student.

[tidus1203]

High floods, the ASX?? Its not even high... Lamang lang ng what 2 inches from your regular compact sedan and that is not high enough... Sa budget na yan I still insist a Tucson. Pero kung etong dalawa lang I think the Focus TDCi might be better cause matipid talaga sa crudo...

[jimnyeatworld]

ba't di na lang sya mag-escape tutal Ford din saka puwede sa baha

[sm2by]

ba't di na lang sya mag-escape tutal Ford din saka puwede sa baha

I really wish they would bring the USDM Escape that's been sold the states for the past 3 years, but you get the old ones that they keep face lifting since 2002!


Tucson owners beware

[CARLOver17]

Get the TDCI. It will take long before the new Focus gets here. So he will be enjoying around three years of being current.

Anyway..

I really wish they would bring the USDM Escape that's been sold the states for the past 3 years, but you get the old ones that they keep face lifting since 2002!


Tucson owners beware

That Escape is THE SAME Escape sold here. USDM Ford just facelifts better. So in essence, that USDM Escape has been getting facelifts since 2000.

[tidus1203]

Yeah the Cruze is an option but fuel efficient it is not... The car seems heavy for its engine...

[JPG111]

Tell your friend to get the Focus TDCi or better else get a Tucson..

[jetrone]

I assume a budget of around 1.2m?

Tucson> Focus=ASX

The new Focus is still about a year and a half away, maybe even more but because I know it's coming I'd never think about getting the current model.

ninja edit: kung ayaw nya Korean, why not try a CR-V? if it's really between the two I'd go for the ASX, since I can't picture myself getting a current model knowing the replacement is on the horizon.

[jut703]

Yun una ko suggestion. I forgot to mention that his parents hate Korean. Hassle pa makipagtalo so the Tucson, though it's the most apt, is out of the equation.

[blue_gambit]

Focus tdci ako, good looking, big boot from what I saw, diesel-efficient, diesel-powerful, DSG-tranny. though I like the pre facelift front ng tdci. hehehe

Tpos upgrade to 18's na shoes ayos!

[Mschumacher]

Yun una ko suggestion. I forgot to mention that his parents hate Korean. Hassle pa makipagtalo so the Tucson, though it's the most apt, is out of the equation.

Tell them to test drive one. For me its the same as most of them... Tucson then focus tdci and at the end of the list is ASX...

[jut703]

Just asked him, and this are his priorities (in order), and i quote:


Fuel economy.
Value-for-money.
Relatively new /or/ long lasting design (like the Civic or Altis).
Modest interior room.
Decent power and torque.
Preferrably: bells and whistles XDD

Fiesta really suits his needs except for the space part. And his mother is against the whole subcompact genre because of this.

Since he doesn't really value handling and wants a car that costs as little as possible, I actually suggested the 1.6V Altis. The facelift means he won't get tired of it. The new engine + transmission is almost sure to be efficient. It costs just north of 900k. It rides comfortably.

I also suggested the Jazz. Has lots of space actually.

And then I suggested the Focus. Because it's all the Fiesta is but has more space. It's just that I sense he's really put off by the fact that a new one's coming.

GH, the GT-A is a tad too expensive for his needs, he doesn't really need the handling anyway. And fuel efficiency is on the top of the list eh.

[ghosthunter]

Just asked him, and this are his priorities (in order), and i quote:


Fuel economy.
Value-for-money.
Relatively new /or/ long lasting design (like the Civic or Altis).
Modest interior room.
Decent power and torque.
Preferrably: bells and whistles XDD

Fiesta really suits his needs except for the space part. And his mother is against the whole subcompact genre because of this.

Since he doesn't really value handling and wants a car that costs as little as possible, I actually suggested the 1.6V Altis. The facelift means he won't get tired of it. The new engine + transmission is almost sure to be efficient. It costs just north of 900k. It rides comfortably.

I also suggested the Jazz. Has lots of space actually.

And then I suggested the Focus. Because it's all the Fiesta is but has more space. It's just that I sense he's really put off by the fact that a new one's coming.

GH, the GT-A is a tad too expensive for his needs, he doesn't really need the handling anyway. And fuel efficiency is on the top of the list eh.

If fuel efficiency is on top, why even consider the ASX?

Just grab the Ford Focus TDCi Hatchback.

[kevin3000]

SUV nalang

ung mga choices kasi maliit talaga
and eto ung mga kailangan
malaki,mataas kayang lumusong sa baha, and nasa mga suv yun why not montero nalang? mas maganda yun sa 2 choices

[Mschumacher]

SUV nalang

ung mga choices kasi maliit talaga
and eto ung mga kailangan
malaki,mataas kayang lumusong sa baha, and nasa mga suv yun why not montero nalang? mas maganda yun sa 2 choices

Tama... Montero na lang malaki ang space and mataas. huwag lang talaga ASX. Overpriced and mukhang gas-guzzling unit yun. hindi pa din ako bilib sa gas ng mitsu e. more of a diesel guy kasi ako e.

[niky]

Yun una ko suggestion. I forgot to mention that his parents hate Korean. Hassle pa makipagtalo so the Tucson, though it's the most apt, is out of the equation.

It's very simple. Tell then the ASX has a Korean engine.

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If you want to go further... how about the fact that everyone in the big TV market nowadays is licensing Korean LCD technology. That some of the best appliances nowadays are Korean... my LG ref and washing machines are the best I've ever had... less troublesome and more durable than comparable Japanese ones!

His mother thinks the Jazz is too small.

Ang problema, his parents, who will pay for the car, shoot down so many good options.

I think the easiest way to change their minds will be to have your friend take them with him to the dealership. The Jazz is wider and has more front crush space than many 90's compacts, and has better crash safety, to boot. In fact, it has better crash safety than a mid-90's Accord!

Not to mention the fact that it has tons of cargo space.

This should also sway them in case the guy wants a Tucson. A clubmate's wife was vehemently anti-Korean-car. They visited the showroom and sat in the Sonata and... guess what? She bought it. On the spot.

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For flood fording, I wouldn't pick the ASX... not really tall enough to get for that reason. Neither would I pick the Escape or CR-V.. air intakes waaay too low. If he wants something completely flood-protected and cheap, he should buy a manual transmission Crosswind. That's Japanese, durable and economical, with tons of space. Of course, I'd understand if he didn't want one...

Modest interior room. hell yes.

:hysterical:

I would actually suggest looking at pick-ups. The Strada at under 1m already has power windows and a direct injection engine. Or... if we're looking at absolutely flood-proof, the Ranger and D-Max have non-direct injection base models... the base D-Max uses the venerable Crosswind engine... so it'll be ultra-slow and safe, to boot...

[ghosthunter]

I've got a friend who's in the market for a car right now. Initially he wanted the Fiesta. However, his parents warned against it as it was too small especially for long drives. Hence, the choice now is either the TDCi or the ASX.

He argues that the Focus is due to be replaced soon and buying one now might be a waste of money, but he can't wait for the new one. He's also leaning towards the ASX because he says it can trudge shin high floods (flood often at their place) safely enough to get the car home, whereas the Focus won't be able to do likewise, as the ASX has 10cm more clearance.

I would still personally go for the Focus though. I don't really see the practicality of the ASX. I would bet the Focus has more interior space. And is more fuel efficient.

What do you guys think? Other info about him is that he's a tall guy and a college student.

Just get the mid-point of the two.

Buy a Mitsu Lancer EX GTA.