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    mga expert tsikoteers, help naman.. may mga ilang katanungan lang before i finally purchase a 2nd hand car..

    i'm planning to buy this certain Honda City Type Z LX 2002 AT model na kasi that i saw on sulit.. kung magkakasundo kami sa price na P175k, baka bukas magkabayaran na so i need your opinions overnight.. bigyan ko lang po kayo idea about dun sa car..color red yung siya, 115,000kms ang odo, first owner yung seller, may mangilang dents (babae kasi yung seller e), kalbo na ang spare tire, windows lang ang powered, yung side mirror at locks manual, walang alarm..fresh naman in out.. all stock..

    now my questions are:

    1.) ano po ba difference ng LX sa LXI na variant?..
    2.) sa price na P175k, ok na ba siya? di ba mataas? di ba mababa?
    3.) totoo ba na pa matic at naka-incline ka dapat di siya aatras pag nagbreak then binitawan na ang break? pag daw umatras may prob ang transmission (may nagsabi kasi sakin na ganun) or normal lang daw (may nagsabi naman sakin na since 1300cc lang normal lang na yun na umatras ng konti)???
    4.) ok naman po yung takbo kanina nung tinest drive ko, tahimik naman makina, wala namang kalampag, ang prob lang e parang every now and then may naririnig ako na tunog (parang whistling sound), ano po kaya nag-ca-cause nun?

    hope you could help me mga idol, newbie here, wala pa po kasi ko masyado alam sa car and ayoko naman makakuha ng kotseng bibigyan lang ako sakit ng ulo.. pang-everyday use p kasi sana ko to..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeisuarezjescel View Post
    mga expert tsikoteers, help naman.. may mga ilang katanungan lang before i finally purchase a 2nd hand car..

    i'm planning to buy this certain Honda City Type Z LX 2002 AT model na kasi that i saw on sulit.. kung magkakasundo kami sa price na P175k, baka bukas magkabayaran na so i need your opinions overnight.. bigyan ko lang po kayo idea about dun sa car..color red yung siya, 115,000kms ang odo, first owner yung seller, may mangilang dents (babae kasi yung seller e), kalbo na ang spare tire, windows lang ang powered, yung side mirror at locks manual, walang alarm..fresh naman in out.. all stock..

    now my questions are:

    1.) ano po ba difference ng LX sa LXI na variant?..
    2.) sa price na P175k, ok na ba siya? di ba mataas? di ba mababa?
    3.) totoo ba na pa matic at naka-incline ka dapat di siya aatras pag nagbreak then binitawan na ang break? pag daw umatras may prob ang transmission (may nagsabi kasi sakin na ganun) or normal lang daw (may nagsabi naman sakin na since 1300cc lang normal lang na yun na umatras ng konti)???
    4.) ok naman po yung takbo kanina nung tinest drive ko, tahimik naman makina, wala namang kalampag, ang prob lang e parang every now and then may naririnig ako na tunog (parang whistling sound), ano po kaya nag-ca-cause nun?

    hope you could help me mga idol, newbie here, wala pa po kasi ko masyado alam sa car and ayoko naman makakuha ng kotseng bibigyan lang ako sakit ng ulo.. pang-everyday use p kasi sana ko to..
    115tkms is a reasonable mileage for a car of this age, though bordering slightly on the high side. Its easy to remedy the missing amenities you mentioned. The power locks and alarm shouldn't cost much in Banawe.
    1. 2002 LX? Are you sure? Ang alam ko yung base variant ng City ay GL, followed by LXi, EXi and VTi. Baka naputol lang yung "i" sa badge.
    2. Assuming that the car is really in good condition as you mentioned, 175k is a good price. Though you may probably do a last ditch attempt haggling for 170k. There are dents to fix and a spare tire to change, after all.
    3. In my experience of driving A/T's, I have yet to encounter one that rolls down when the shifter is in "D" when the brake is released. Though it will definitely roll down when in neutral. If you experience this, try first checking the ATF.
    4. Whistling sound? That is kind of hard to gauge when one doesn't hear it himself. Do you hear it in high speeds only? If so the weather strips probably aren't properly sealed.

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    3. depends on how steep the incline is. if incline is not so steep and tamang "hanging" lang, then the car shouldn't move. pero kung yung incline mo eh parang sa tagaytay highlands, the car will roll back when left in "D" if you're not pressing on the accelerator. from personal experience also, mas mahina ang hatak ng honda when when leaving the AT in D as compared to a Toyota.
    4. Whistling sound is probably coming from the A/C. I also get that whistling sound from my civic ES from time to time. not really sure what causes it but so far, wala namang problems. hirap din ipa diagnose sa casa since you really don't know kung kelan sisipol. imagine mo na lang na naka turbo ko at humihigop ng hangin. lol. :D

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    May lx variant, and Yan yun carb pa. Hindi fuel injected.

    Assuming sa description, 175k is a bit high. I'll bet medyo kailangan na ng hilamos. If I were the one buying, mga 150k to have room for repairs.

    As they have said hindi dapat atras kung inclined sa mga tipo ng c5 entrance.

    Wistling sound sa ac? Usually expansion valve may problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeisuarezjescel View Post
    mga expert tsikoteers, help naman.. may mga ilang katanungan lang before i finally purchase a 2nd hand car..

    i'm planning to buy this certain Honda City Type Z LX 2002 AT model na kasi that i saw on sulit.. kung magkakasundo kami sa price na P175k, baka bukas magkabayaran na so i need your opinions overnight.. bigyan ko lang po kayo idea about dun sa car..color red yung siya, 115,000kms ang odo, first owner yung seller, may mangilang dents (babae kasi yung seller e), kalbo na ang spare tire, windows lang ang powered, yung side mirror at locks manual, walang alarm..fresh naman in out.. all stock..

    now my questions are:

    1.) ano po ba difference ng LX sa LXI na variant?..
    2.) sa price na P175k, ok na ba siya? di ba mataas? di ba mababa?
    3.) totoo ba na pa matic at naka-incline ka dapat di siya aatras pag nagbreak then binitawan na ang break? pag daw umatras may prob ang transmission (may nagsabi kasi sakin na ganun) or normal lang daw (may nagsabi naman sakin na since 1300cc lang normal lang na yun na umatras ng konti)???
    4.) ok naman po yung takbo kanina nung tinest drive ko, tahimik naman makina, wala namang kalampag, ang prob lang e parang every now and then may naririnig ako na tunog (parang whistling sound), ano po kaya nag-ca-cause nun?

    hope you could help me mga idol, newbie here, wala pa po kasi ko masyado alam sa car and ayoko naman makakuha ng kotseng bibigyan lang ako sakit ng ulo.. pang-everyday use p kasi sana ko to..

    a) Wala atang LXi variant ang 2002 na AT. Pero kung meron man, ang LX (as the name implies) is not fuel injected, carb pa yan.
    b) 175k for a 2002 AT City? Parang mababa pa ata, imho.
    c) Depende sa incline.
    d) Di ko sure, madaming pwedeng pangalingan...

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    salamat sir GTi, Gabriel Tan, archie and 1D4LV..

    di ko na po iisa-isahin reply sa mga sagot niyo, dami eh hehe..

    bout sa sinabi ni sir GTi, baka nga natanggal lang yung "i" sa "LXi", hehe.. *sir 1D4LV, carb na 2002? i thought kapag mga 2000 pataas eh fuel injected na li lahat?.. oh well, verify ko nalang din..

    bout naman sa price, ayun nga ang prob, ayaw ibigay sa P175k.. P200k daw po last price niya.. di po kaya masyado naman na mataas to.. wait, eto nga po pala sulit id mga sirs for your reference, 6923366.. kala ko po kasi ok na siya sa P175k kasi pumayag pi siya makipagkita kanina e.. di po kita jan sa pics nya yung dent sa likod (may naatrasan ata) pati sa door sa right side.. ano po tingin niyo mga sir? tapatan ko ba or tawaran?.. remember all stock po ah, walang alarm, manual side mirror, etc.. inexpect ko po kasi dapat man lang atleast all powered na e..

    bout po dun sa umaatras pag naka-incline, * sir Gabriel Tan, * sir charles and * sir 1D4LV, cge po i'll check on that again.. * sir GTi, ano po yung bout sa ATF? dapat po ba palitan na kapag ganun?

    lastly, yung sa whistling sound, di kaya sa breakpads? yun kasi sabi nung kasama ko kanina, pagnirerelease ko daw siguro dun tumutunog? baka daw manipis na kaya kelangan na palitan? sabi naman nung seller bagong palit lang daw e so impossibleng yun nga.. *sir GTi, ano po yung weather strips? sori newb po talaga ko.. *sir charles and *sir Gabriel Tan, kung expansion valve, ano po dapat ko gawin? ok lang ba na di ko ipagalaw? di kaya magkaron siya effect sa car in the long run???

    salamat po in advance.. sorry po dami ko tanong mga sirs..

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    Its too much for 200k. Add another hundred eh may mga mazda 3 ka nang mabibili. 150-170k siguro ok. If ayaw talaga start hunting for other cars.

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    try mo pa hanap ng iba sir, malay mo kapag naghanap kang iba bigla ka tawagan nyan at pumayag bigla sa price mo

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeisuarezjescel View Post
    salamat sir GTi, Gabriel Tan, archie and 1D4LV..

    di ko na po iisa-isahin reply sa mga sagot niyo, dami eh hehe..

    bout sa sinabi ni sir GTi, baka nga natanggal lang yung "i" sa "LXi", hehe.. *sir 1D4LV, carb na 2002? i thought kapag mga 2000 pataas eh fuel injected na li lahat?.. oh well, verify ko nalang din..

    bout naman sa price, ayun nga ang prob, ayaw ibigay sa P175k.. P200k daw po last price niya.. di po kaya masyado naman na mataas to.. wait, eto nga po pala sulit id mga sirs for your reference, 6923366.. kala ko po kasi ok na siya sa P175k kasi pumayag pi siya makipagkita kanina e.. di po kita jan sa pics nya yung dent sa likod (may naatrasan ata) pati sa door sa right side.. ano po tingin niyo mga sir? tapatan ko ba or tawaran?.. remember all stock po ah, walang alarm, manual side mirror, etc.. inexpect ko po kasi dapat man lang atleast all powered na e..

    bout po dun sa umaatras pag naka-incline, * sir Gabriel Tan, * sir charles and * sir 1D4LV, cge po i'll check on that again.. * sir GTi, ano po yung bout sa ATF? dapat po ba palitan na kapag ganun?

    lastly, yung sa whistling sound, di kaya sa breakpads? yun kasi sabi nung kasama ko kanina, pagnirerelease ko daw siguro dun tumutunog? baka daw manipis na kaya kelangan na palitan? sabi naman nung seller bagong palit lang daw e so impossibleng yun nga.. *sir GTi, ano po yung weather strips? sori newb po talaga ko.. *sir charles and *sir Gabriel Tan, kung expansion valve, ano po dapat ko gawin? ok lang ba na di ko ipagalaw? di kaya magkaron siya effect sa car in the long run???

    salamat po in advance.. sorry po dami ko tanong mga sirs..
    Saw the ad, LXi yan! From the rear pic makikita mo naputol nga yung "i". The car looks pretty fresh the way I see it.

    Sabi na nga ba parang ang baba ng 175k eh. Yung 200k ba negotiated price na? Pwede pa siguro 190k, although 200 is reasonable if it is in good condition.

    Wala kasi ako dun at hindi ko na-drive yung kotse so I cannot be sure about the tranny. Pero kung at this mileage at di pa niya nagalaw ang ATF, kelangan na talagang palitan yan.

    Ano ba kasing klaseng whistling sound? Yung sa brake hindi na whistling yun, high pitched screeching sound ang maririnig mo. Weather strips yung goma sa pintuan para ma-seal kapag nakasara. Yung ibang kotse kapag nagtagal tumitigas o kaya natutunaw yung goma kaya hindi na siya nakaka-seal effectively at may pumapasok na hangin sa maliliit na butas kapag mabilis ang takbo creating a sort of whistling sound. Kung tulad nung sinabi nilang "turbo-like" whistling sound whose pitch goes up and down with the rpm, check if the audio HU is open. I have experienced this with our Revo before, and I initially thought it has to do with the aircon. But then the sound stayed when the aircon was turned off. But then when I turned off the stereo, the sound was gone for good. Very odd, but true. Now, that stereo was the 12 year old tape deck that came with the car. When I changed the HU not too long ago, I never heard the whistling sound again.

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    I had a similar model na ganyan.. Check mo ang shift shock ng transmission.

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    *sir Mikemike07 and *sir Ponkan, cge po, hanap2 po ko iba.. nawa magdilang anghel ka *sir Ponkan na bigla bumigay sa tawad ko at magbago isip n seller.. hehe.. bout sa Mazda3 *sir Mikemike07,dami kasi ko naririnig na negative comments bout sa car na yun..na kesyo malakas daw sa gas,mahina suspension etc dahil mabigat..dati dream car ko yan,ngayon parang natatakotna ko bumili kahit maging milyonaryo pa ko or makaipon ng malaki..:D
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    *sir GTi, onga, mukha nga LXi nga.. di ko na kasi masyado chineck yung labas,though napasin ko na may dalawang major dent sya,isa sa bumper sa likod isa sa pinto.. i was more concerned po kasi sa engine condition niya..tahimik naman,ok din naman at hindi matagtag yung ride..

    bout dun sa ATF sir,saan po ba nakakabili ng transmission fluid?sa casa lang ba?eh mahal po dun diba?..sa mga gasoline stations po meron po ba?..and anong brand?..balak ko kasi papalitan para nalang din sure..

    sa whistling sound cge po next time around iisa-isahin ko po mga sinabi niyo..una patayin ko aircon, then stereo.. pero bout dun sa rubber po sa mga pinto, posible din po.. actually dun ako medyo na-turn off na onti.. ang panget ng bagsak ng mga pinto e.. then nung first time i tried getting in the car i thought naka-lock kasi kailangan pa hilahin w/ force yung pinto para bumukas.. para bang dumidikit na siya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imperialv View Post
    I had a similar model na ganyan.. Check mo ang shift shock ng transmission.
    *sir imperialv, i assume you're pertaining sa pag-atras habang naka-incline sir?..yung inyo ba sir di cya umaatras pagkarelease ng brake basta naka-D siya?..sorry po sir noob kasi pero how do i check the shift shock ng transmission?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post

    Sabi na nga ba parang ang baba ng 175k eh. Yung 200k ba negotiated price na? Pwede pa siguro 190k, although 200 is reasonable if it is in good condition.
    btw, yes, negotiated price na po.. yoko lang po kasi bumigay sa P200k kasi medyo marami-rami pa din papagawa ko e.. papapalit ako spare tire,kalbo na po e,papalagay alarm since wala pa,papalagay door visor kasi parang ang bare,baka pakabitan ko din chrome fiber sticker yung hood at trunk,then ayun nga,baka pachange oil and oil filter tsaka yung sa ATF sir..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikemike07 View Post
    Its too much for 200k. Add another hundred eh may mga mazda 3 ka nang mabibili. 150-170k siguro ok. If ayaw talaga start hunting for other cars.
    As if it is that easy add "another hundred". kung hundred pesos madali. pero kung hundred thousand pesos mahirap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeisuarezjescel View Post
    *sir GTi, onga, mukha nga LXi nga.. di ko na kasi masyado chineck yung labas,though napasin ko na may dalawang major dent sya,isa sa bumper sa likod isa sa pinto.. i was more concerned po kasi sa engine condition niya..tahimik naman,ok din naman at hindi matagtag yung ride..

    bout dun sa ATF sir,saan po ba nakakabili ng transmission fluid?sa casa lang ba?eh mahal po dun diba?..sa mga gasoline stations po meron po ba?..and anong brand?..balak ko kasi papalitan para nalang din sure..

    sa whistling sound cge po next time around iisa-isahin ko po mga sinabi niyo..una patayin ko aircon, then stereo.. pero bout dun sa rubber po sa mga pinto, posible din po.. actually dun ako medyo na-turn off na onti.. ang panget ng bagsak ng mga pinto e.. then nung first time i tried getting in the car i thought naka-lock kasi kailangan pa hilahin w/ force yung pinto para bumukas.. para bang dumidikit na siya?
    You can find ATF anywhere. Talyers have them, and so do most gasoline stations. Its not really very expensive.

    Kung dumidikit ang pinto, it means it has been regularly parked under the sun for long periods of time, at medyo natutunaw na ang weather strips.
    Quote Originally Posted by jeisuarezjescel View Post
    *sir imperialv, i assume you're pertaining sa pag-atras habang naka-incline sir?..yung inyo ba sir di cya umaatras pagkarelease ng brake basta naka-D siya?..sorry po sir noob kasi pero how do i check the shift shock ng transmission?
    Shift shock yung tipong may jolt kapag nagshishift yung tranny. Many old matic trannies exhibit heavy shift shock especially from 1st gear to 2nd gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeisuarezjescel View Post
    btw, yes, negotiated price na po.. yoko lang po kasi bumigay sa P200k kasi medyo marami-rami pa din papagawa ko e.. papapalit ako spare tire,kalbo na po e,papalagay alarm since wala pa,papalagay door visor kasi parang ang bare,baka pakabitan ko din chrome fiber sticker yung hood at trunk,then ayun nga,baka pachange oil and oil filter tsaka yung sa ATF sir..
    Does the car have insurance? Kung wala, that's probably another reason to slash the price.

    I'd keep the car as is as much as possible. Carbon fiber stickers are rather tacky. Makes the car look cheap and "pambata". I'd go for the door visors, alarm, power locks and perhaps foglights and a new audio HU. All that after first fixing the dents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourtheboys96 View Post
    As if it is that easy add "another hundred". kung hundred pesos madali. pero kung hundred thousand pesos mahirap.
    hahaha natawa ako sa comment niyo sir..onga naman..100k is 100k..

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    You can find ATF anywhere. Talyers have them, and so do most gasoline stations. Its not really very expensive.

    Kung dumidikit ang pinto, it means it has been regularly parked under the sun for long periods of time, at medyo natutunaw na ang weather strips.

    Shift shock yung tipong may jolt kapag nagshishift yung tranny. Many old matic trannies exhibit heavy shift shock especially from 1st gear to 2nd gear.
    sige sir, pag nagkasundo kami sa price at pag kukunin ko na yung car i'll ask kung even once dati e nakapagpapalit na siya ng ATF..pag never pa,sama ko na siguro sa mga ipagagawa ko..other than that sir ano pa dapat ko gawin since second hand ton bibilhin ko?..change oil,palit oil filter,palit ATF..ano pa sir?..spark plug kaya sir?..yung mga dapat ko gawin sir para mas mapanatili maganda takbo nung car..

    bout pala dun sa weather strips,magkano po kaya papalit nun?..meron kaya sa banawe?..pange kasi ng bagsak ng mga pinto e..

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Does the car have insurance? Kung wala, that's probably another reason to slash the price.

    I'd keep the car as is as much as possible. Carbon fiber stickers are rather tacky. Makes the car look cheap and "pambata". I'd go for the door visors, alarm, power locks and perhaps foglights and a new audio HU. All that after first fixing the dents.
    siguro wala sir..baka TPL lang..

    bout dun sa CF stickers,parang naisip ko lang pi kasi parang bagay siya kasi black yung hood a trunk since red yung body?..walalang,parang match lang..hehe..

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