Upgrading from civic fd to Ford Everest

[henyomzky]

Good day Ford Experts. I'm being convinced by my parents to change my civic fd 08 to a ford everest 3rd gen.(their choice) second hand lang. Masyado daw kasing mababa ang sedan, mas safe ang SUV incase magkaaksidente, pwede rin for heavy loads for business ng pamilya at ibang pang parents concerns(may pagka-OA din). Pinag-iisipan ko pa po talaga ito kasi ayaw ko palitan ang fd ko kasi it's my first car at walang ford casa sa lugar namin. I'm still a student po at 2 years pa bago grumaduate sana. hehe. though I understand my parents and I'm getting to like the ford everest especially the 3rd gen. but still have a lot of questions in mind. I've already google some of my question but still can't understand some of them..
Here's my question:
1. Pros and Cons
2. Engine performance and details (kindly explain further po, like what's the use of TDCi, turbo charge. etc)
3. how's the ride? di po ba kalampag dahil sa 18"?
4. What is FE limited? FE ice package?
5. FE problems. I heard may problema sa Fuel indicator.
6. Gaano po ba kamahal ang spare parts at service(their having this Ford Caravan Visit every 3 months)?
7. Fuel Consumption. My fd's FC is 6-7km/l city driving..


Budget is 900-950k but perhaps maaextend daw depende kung magustuhan ang bibilhin. Sorry sa newbie question..

[SiRbossR]

There are already threads that is concerned about your queries. Anyways, it's only from you that I've heard about the fuel Indicator problems. FC is 9-12km/l mixed driving for the 2.5L.

TDCi is the "TITLE" they're using to let people know that it is a Common Rail Diesel.

Turbo Super Charging is a Force Induction system to boost performance.

Ride is bearable. Siguro, sing tagtag din ng FD.

Spare parts are inexpensive especially when you know where to get your parts, in that case, there's MazFord, Autorama and Fordland.

[mda]

I think with regards to accident safety, the FD is a pretty safe car. The only place where the Ford would be better is in terms of crossing flooded roads.

If walang Ford casa sa area, then parts may be difficult lalo kung wala ring ibang pwedeng pagkunan ng parts.

I'd keep the FD lalo since alam mo na yung sakit ng kotse etc. BUT if you needed to change to a larger car, I'd consider something like a Fortuner nalang (I think may toyota dealer naman diyan?)

[niky]

1. Pros and Cons

More able to cross flooded areas... but... More prone to roll-over, not any safer in a crash (FD Civic has better crash test ratings... Weight and size don't mean nothing in terms of crash safety if the bigger vehicle is made of lesser strength steel

More space.

2. Engine performance and details (kindly explain further po, like what's the use of TDCi, turbo charge. etc)

The engine is pretty good. That's all you need to know.

3. how's the ride? di po ba kalampag dahil sa 18"?

It is. The FE is just as stiff as the FD when equipped with 18s, but it's also bouncier on the highway. Its saving grace is the seats are softer.

4. What is FE limited? FE ice package?

Pretty much that plus the mags.

5. FE problems. I heard may problema sa Fuel indicator.

Haven't really heard about many issues. Compared to the competition, the FE is relatively reliable.

6. Gaano po ba kamahal ang spare parts at service(their having this Ford Caravan Visit every 3 months)?

Not any worse than the FD.

7. Fuel Consumption. My fd's FC is 6-7km/l city driving..

FC is similar in similar conditions... But diesel is cheaper.

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While extra space is always good, if you're getting something for work, probably better a pick-up than a seven seated. Cheaper, too.

Mind you... NO TRUCK under 2m will be safer in terms of on-road stability or crashworthiness than a good medium sized car.

[dr. d]

one thing i learned over the years...: don't argue with your financier. besides, the other vehicle ain't bad. the only problems i forsee, are the turning circle (maneuverability) and the difficulty of parking.
don't we like to have your problem..
heh heh.

[GTi]

Good day Ford Experts. I'm being convinced by my parents to change my civic fd 08 to a ford everest 3rd gen.(their choice) second hand lang. Masyado daw kasing mababa ang sedan, mas safe ang SUV incase magkaaksidente, pwede rin for heavy loads for business ng pamilya at ibang pang parents concerns(may pagka-OA din). Pinag-iisipan ko pa po talaga ito kasi ayaw ko palitan ang fd ko kasi it's my first car at walang ford casa sa lugar namin. I'm still a student po at 2 years pa bago grumaduate sana. hehe. though I understand my parents and I'm getting to like the ford everest especially the 3rd gen. but still have a lot of questions in mind. I've already google some of my question but still can't understand some of them..
Here's my question:
1. Pros and Cons
2. Engine performance and details (kindly explain further po, like what's the use of TDCi, turbo charge. etc)
3. how's the ride? di po ba kalampag dahil sa 18"?
4. What is FE limited? FE ice package?
5. FE problems. I heard may problema sa Fuel indicator.
6. Gaano po ba kamahal ang spare parts at service(their having this Ford Caravan Visit every 3 months)?
7. Fuel Consumption. My fd's FC is 6-7km/l city driving..


Budget is 900-950k but perhaps maaextend daw depende kung magustuhan ang bibilhin. Sorry sa newbie question..

Maganda ang Everest. Aling variant ang kukunin mo?

1. Pros: Parang submarine sa baha, malawak ang loob, malakas humatak, matipid sa krudo, benefits of being a diesel
Cons: matagtag lalo na with the 18 inch rims
2. Malakas talaga humatak, though syempre hindi kasimbilis ng FD mo, lalo na with the 2.5 pero mas matipid. It has excellent low end torque with both variants. TDCi= Ford speak for commonrail direct injection, turbocharged and intercooled engine
3. mas matagtag as compared to other SUVs but should be liveable if you are used to the ride quality of AUVs
4. FE Limited? Wala atang ganon? Baka FE= Ford Everest Limited? you can check out the specs at Ford Philippines | Ford Cars, Ford Motor Company, Ford Philippines
5. Everest's fuel indicator doesn't have any problems, at least none that I know of.
6. The Everest is an Asian market model. Parts are also made in Thailand. If you know where to buy, it shouldn't be far off from its Jap competitors.
7. FC? I'd estimate at 6-8km/L for the 3.0 and 7-9 for the 2.5 depending on driving style and traffic conditions.

[henyomzky]

Thanks po for the Quick reply. I really appreciate it. If decided we'll be getting a 2.5L ford everest.

Anyway, about the fuel gauge/indicator. I have read this thread " http://tsikot.com/forums/ford-cars-t...everest-64906/ " just last year and one of my dad's friend also has a similar issue regarding his FE '08 that's why I'm a bit worried na baka after sometime lalabas ang problema..

[Harangody]

Sobrang matagtag yung ride ng Everest, talo pa yung Fortuner.

[GTi]

Thanks po for the Quick reply. I really appreciate it. If decided we'll be getting a 2.5L ford everest.

Anyway, about the fuel gauge/indicator. I have read this thread " http://tsikot.com/forums/ford-cars-t...everest-64906/ " just last year and one of my dad's friend also has a similar issue regarding his FE '08 that's why I'm a bit worried na baka after sometime lalabas ang problema..

Ah~ Isolated case naman ata yan. Kundi, napakalaki na ng issue na yan dito sa Tsikot like the Accent 1.4GL's knocking issue. We have a family friend who owns a 2008 Everest. Haven't heard any such problem from him.

[vinj]

one thing i learned over the years...: don't argue with your financier. besides, the other vehicle ain't bad. the only problems i forsee, are the turning circle (maneuverability) and the difficulty of parking.
don't we like to have your problem..
heh heh.

Words of wisdom indeed. Never bite the hand that feeds.

I'd go for the FE over the FD since i love trucks and the extra beef you get from the suspension in our bad roads. Upgrading the shocks to an aftermarket set like Old Man Emus, Ironman, etc. will help improve the choppy ride somewhat (this worked with our first gen Everest at least).

Just keep it maintained and it will serve you well. Best to have a full check-up as well, especially if the vehicle is still under warranty so any issues can be addressed.

[AKI125]

Dont worry much about the bumpy ride. There are some ways to improve the riding comfort. Everest is definitely a more practical than your present vehicle
1. Fill up the tires with nitrogen
2. Try replacing an after market shocks with 2 way dampering once the OE shocks are alreasy wore out.

[reactor]

you cant go wrong with the everest, its not that bumpy unless mag isa ka lang sa car. FC is good lalo na diesel pa. kung alam mo bilihan ng parts hindi sya mahal, my gen 2 everest is more than 3 yrs wala naman ako pinalitan except sa tire, alt belt, brake pads and oils (normal wear &tear parts lang).

[henyomzky]

Thanks po sa advices! Your comments really enlightened me. Bye bye na my civic hello Ford Everest next month. Approved na sa "financers". Hehe

But im still a bit ignorant sa mga shocks. Ang alam ko lang is load plus. Does the everest get low when loaded(puno ng tao)? Konti lang kasi eve dto samin. Ang madami ay fort at monty. Laging lowered ang likod pag puno ng tao tulad ng fd ko. Napapangitan ako sa ganun..

[number001]

SUVs like the Everest, Fortuner, Montero, are equipped with stiff springs so when fully loaded it wouldn't look anything like a fully loaded Vios. Depending on the load, it would lower a bit but not very noticeable.

[GTi]

Nakakita na nga ako ng Fortuner na fully loaded at nakaluhod yung likod. Montero so far di pa ako nakakita. IMHO the Everest has lesser tendency to behave this way dahil na rin sa stiffer suspension niya as compared to the others, particularly the leaf springs at the back.

[pangarap]

Good day po mga sir! May itatanong po sana ako. May binebenta kasi po sa akin na Ford Everest 2011 M/T P800, 0000. Never pa po kaming nagkasasakyan kasi mahirap lang po kami kaya wala po akng kaalamalam sa kahit ano. Ang tanong ko po, ano po kayang pangkaraniwan na problema ng Ford Everest na maaring dahilan upang ibenta po ng mayari? Thank you po

[maddox]

Hi all. I currently have a Ford Everest and have been driving it for about 2 years now. In terms of power and durability, all I can say is OK. The only concern I have. and it is probably the biggest and most annoying concern, is its rare suspension which are 'leaf springs'. It is terrible!

The Ford Everest and Ford Ranger have the same chassis. Leaf springs are used mostly by trucks. Now why would they use a truck chassis on a family car?! If only I knew back then... Don't get me wrong I love my FE basically because I am kind of a sentimental when it comes to my things but really...

Yes, leaf springs outlive coil springs. They are way more durable and reliable for heavy loads. The heavier the load the better the FE's ride will be, true, but still not comfortable enough as per my standard and I believe also for most people's standard. And are we supposed to hope our FE gets fully-loaded everyday just so we can have a slightly less annoying ride?

If anyone is aiming for a family vehicle, I, basing from my experience, personally suggest against the FE or any vehicle with leaf spring suspension. True the FE has power due to having turbo-intercooler but also consider the danger of driving really fast but having the vehicle not being able to handle bumps and potholes effectively.

[Errol5]

long time no post!

Hi,

current owner of FE for 3 years now.

What i like about the Everest
* in terms of power, hindi ito nangungulelat, it is nice to know you have the pulling power when you need it (to overtake or to smoke someone)

* in terms of reliability, wala ito issue sa fuel system (D4D Toyota), i think its the only unit na may waterproof ECU which is good sa floods. Up to now, wala pa ko pinapalitan na nasirang parts (aside from the alt/fan belt na pinalitan ko due to preventive maint purposes) be it sa suspension o sa makina.

* in terms of maintenance, you can go to Mazford, readily available ang parts nila lalo na mga madalas na kelangan for PMS like oil/air/fuel filter, brake pads and belts, even Motorcraft oils (required for ATFs) at hindi naman ito mahal tulad ng inaakala mo. Outside the Casa na maintenance ko kahit under warranty pa ang unit ko, mas matipid, hindi naman rocket science kelangan para gawin ang maintenance like change oil etc, reputable shops like Goodyear Autocare, Bosch o kahit sa suking Gas station lang pwede (wag lang Rapide) Papayag din ang MAzford ipa LBC ang parts na need mo basta suki ka na.

in terms of looks, I find the looks of the FE to be more commanding than, say Montero (for me), subjective naman ang aspect na to. pero having 18's wheels as standard di ba ang bangis? hehe.

in terms of comfort, yes much better ang competition (MS, Fort, Alterra, TB), wala kang aasahang ginhawa pag dumaan ka sa lubak (had my shocks upgraded to Pro-Comp), pero masasanay ka din, ang plus lang dito kahit waldasin mo ang FE sa lubak/potholes alam mong walang masisira sa pang ilalim mo (tried and tested), wala naman sigurong tao na magpapatakbo ng mabilis habang lumalampas sa humps at potholes, sure it may be bone jarring but i believe the FE can handle it. magiging okay na naman ang ride pag may sakay ka ng 4 na tao. Sanayan lang naman. Also, i think FE has the better interior space (forget the 3rd row, Trailblazer lang panalo dito).

in terms of handling, hands down walang problema sa mga twisties, you can thank the rear sway bar for that.

sa cons,
i hate the position of the spare tire, get used to it dahil kahit may backup sensor ka you will still think twice sa distance when backing up specially sa parking.

turning radius, FE has the worst.

hth