Dilemma - Ford Fiesta Hatchback 1.6 Trend PS(AT) vs Toyota Vios 2012 1.5G(MT)

[renzo_d10]

Kung gusto talaga habulin yung Vios, madali lang habulin yan. Vios lang yan, hindi sports car

Nilalaro lang siya nung Genesis Coupe at Swift actually.

Yung Swift kasi turbocharged yan eh. Kaya kita mo nung una naglilinis lang tapos nung bumira nawala na bigla.

Pero yung 1.5G MT matulin naman din yan kahit papaano.

[Noel Salisipan]

TS, if you're trying to keep it for more than 5yrs mas favor ako sa vios. Ganun pa man mas gusto ko sa looks (inside out) ang fiesta, pero kung mas concern ka sa fc & maintenance babalik ka pa rin sa vios.

Anyway, kung papalitan mo lang ng new set of tires at mags ang vios may "wow" factor na rin yan.

[niky]

Same old saw about the "200 kmh" Vios? Yeah, and my Lynx can hit 250 kmh... Same way... Downhill.

[renzo_d10]

Niky, tanong ko lang. Katulad nung dare devil sa taas na tumakbo ng 200kph on T-rated tires, how long can the tires last running * 200kph before it goes bye bye?

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[slapz]

You do know that the Lancer is a Mitsubishi, right? Feeling ko kasi parang Honda pagkakaalam mo.

Sa 2, newbie, Vios ako. It's easy.
Personally, I'd pick the Fiesta. Laki pa ata discounts ngayon! :D

But if I'm on the market now, I'd wait for the Accent CRDi HB :D

TagaPampanga ka? Get a haima! Ahaha!

[niky]

Niky, tanong ko lang. Katulad nung dare devil sa taas na tumakbo ng 200kph on T-rated tires, how long can the tires last running * 200kph before it goes bye bye?

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Considering it's doubtful he went 200 kmh in the first place (not going to get into a discussion about how woefully inaccurate stock speedometers are and how he was likely only going 180-190 kmh, which is the drag limited top speed of fthe Vios), it's an unknown. Could be safe to do it for an hour. Could blow up halfway through. It will depend on the tires' age, the inflation, the temperature and the vehicle's weight.

When testing load and speed rating, not all tires fail when pushed beyond spec. Insteas, you aimply have a statistical chance of fiery death coming when you least expect it.

[Butch1217]

Kayang kaya ng Vios and 200kph, but is it callibrated at that speed?..hehe..it can be check via dyno
Going back to the topic, vios is cheaper to maintain, the thing I dont like is the temperature level wala sa dashboard..bakit kaya tinganggal nila yan, kaya di mo alam kung mag overheat kana..malalaman mo nalang umuusok na engine mo, too late, sira na mga gasket (or is this true on 1.3L on how about 1.5L?). Tinitipid nila ang system monitor, which is unsafe (in my opinion)
For the Fiesta, higher cost of mentainance, speed baka makakasabay din sa 200kph ng vios..hehehe (low priority for smaller engine disp)..powershift, heard some issues, so safe get the MT. Engine is ready for turbo charging but tranny might not be able to withstand higher torque.

[niky]

The Fiesta Powershift tranny definitely is not safe for turbocharging. It has a very specific torque limit, unlike the wet-plate clutch in the TDCi.

Then again, most cheap torque converter automatics start slipping once you start putting serious power through them, anyway.

[ajim]

The Fiesta Powershift tranny definitely is not safe for turbocharging. It has a very specific torque limit, unlike the wet-plate clutch in the TDCi.

Then again, most cheap torque converter automatics start slipping once you start putting serious power through them, anyway.

So meaning Sir Niky, sa 1.6 PS ng fiesta, mejo mahihirapan sya sa mga speeds 180kph above? Or is it only applicable to most AT cars? MT = safe? Tama po ba pagkakaintindi ko? hehe :D

[oliver1013]

Tutal first car mo naman, pag praktisan mo lang muna...kuha ka ng 2010-2011 na vios, yung mga low mileage 10k-20,000km lang tinakbo, P200k-P300k cheaper than bnew...try mo sa certified pre owned toyota sa may edsa balintawak area, may 1 year warranty on top of the remaining warranty ng kukunin mong used unit. O kaya tingnan mo used car section dito sa tsikot o sa n man sa internet. Kahit o pag praktisan mo ok lang compared to bnew laki depreciation.

[niky]

So meaning Sir Niky, sa 1.6 PS ng fiesta, mejo mahihirapan sya sa mga speeds 180kph above? Or is it only applicable to most AT cars? MT = safe? Tama po ba pagkakaintindi ko? hehe :D

Hindi naman yung bilis yung problema. Kaya naman mag-180 ang mga automatic, basta sapat yung lakas ng makina. Naka-"lock" na kasi ang torque converter pag mataas na yung rpm.

Yung problema ay sa mga mas mababang rpm, bagong mag-lock ang clutch packs. Sa mga katulad ng Vios o Jazz, madudulas na ang mga clutch pack kung lumampas ng 150 ft-lbs ang torque ng makina.

[oliver1013]

for almost the same price, why not this...............


that you can turn into this.....looks wise lang ha


or this..

[keroroblu]

Uhmm, eto po ung mga hinahanap ko sa Car

1. Fuel Consumption
2. Price
3. Maintenance
4. Looks(plus na lang ito)
5. Reliability (ung tipong di ka bibiguin kapag nagmamadali ka)
6. Parts
7. Value for Money
8. Others that you can think of na din po..

1. Fuel Consumption : i believe mas matipid ang VIOS sa fuel consumption..
2. Price : almost the same lang naman silang dalawa.
3. Maintenance : sabi nila mas high-tech ang oto mo., mas masakit sa ulo balang araw.
4. Looks(plus na lang ito) : parehas sila meron mga body kit so sa tingin ko tie lang.. pero stock fiesta ako..
5. Reliability (ung tipong di ka bibiguin kapag nagmamadali ka) : VIOS... kita naman kung gano kadami taxi.. very reliable talaga..
6. Parts : Toyota... kahit sa botica meron ka mabibili hehehe(JOKE)
7. Value for Money : VIOS pa din...masikip ang likod ng fiesta...lalo na kung matangkad driver... kawawa pasahero sa likod.
8. Others that you can think of na din po.. : well.... kung hindi naman issue sayo yung dami ng VIOS taxi sa kalsada, siguro go for VIOS., kung hi-tech naman go for fiesta.. ewan ko lang sir kung ano interior ng fiesta ng trend., kung parehas lang siya sa Fiesta S.. yun lang TY..

[lowslowbenz]

OT:

200 kph Vios? ... It's nice to dream .. once in awhile ..

BTT:

Newbie? Walang alam sa kotse, as in walang alam?

Get a Vios. Just don't drive it up to 200 kph ha! ..

[Butch1217]

OT:
200 kph Vios? ... It's nice to dream .. once in awhile ..
BTT:
Newbie? Walang alam sa kotse, as in walang alam?
Get a Vios. Just don't drive it up to 200 kph ha! ..

+1
Dapat kung 1st car owner, driving skills muna ang improve...not the speed of the car..hehe