CRV 2001 or Pajero 1996?

[bongsaning]

mga sir, plan ko na kasi mag family. Kung consider ko ba ung Pajero 96 ok pa kaya yun kahit luma? Mahirap na ba ang parts nito? Or better na mag crv 2001 na lang ako? Advantage lang kasi ng Pajero 1996 is mas malaki and diesel. Ung crv maganda naman kasi mas bago, ang problem gas at konti ang makakasakay (pero at least mataas din). Thanks in advance sa advice..

[[archie]]

it depends on your need. how much cargo will you be putting?

for me kung pang pamilya pajero na. bigger and mas maluwag. mas mataas and diesel (pang sugod sa baha) pero looks wise? ill get the crv, mas maporma pero parang car lang capacity.

maintenance naman, same same lang. madali pyesa ng parehong car.

[bongsaning]

it depends on your need. how much cargo will you be putting?

for me kung pang pamilya pajero na. bigger and mas maluwag. mas mataas and diesel (pang sugod sa baha) pero looks wise? ill get the crv, mas maporma pero parang car lang capacity.

maintenance naman, same same lang. madali pyesa ng parehong car.

Thanks sa reply sir, mas gusto ko narin ang Pajero worry ko lang talaga luma na.

[Ry_Tower]

Thanks sa reply sir, mas gusto ko narin ang Pajero worry ko lang talaga luma na.

-- kung dyan ka rin lang sir maghahanap sa manila, merong mga pajero dyan na alagang-alaga at hindi pa bugbog due to better roads compared sa provinces. Dahil ladder frame chassis nyan, matibay pa yan pati na ang kaha. I'm sure may mabibili kang maganda pa. Kung may makukuha kang MT much better ito sa FC.

Basta don't forget to bring a trusted mechanic when checking a car ang preferably ipa-lift mo para makita underchassis components. Go Pajero ka na!

[GTi]

Suggest ko Pajero nalang. Kahit na sabihing 1996 pa yan, matibay na matibay yan. Hindi kasing bilis magdeteriorate as compared dun sa CRV. In fact I have a family friend who owns a 1993 Pajero, its still up and running in very good condition and the paint's still shiny and the interior still fresh. Look for a Pajero that is in good condition and perhaps you may be interested in making some minor engine modifications for it to make a bit more power since the 4D56 engine is rather weak.

[myk384]

One advise for Pajero: Avoid poorly converted units. I remember in the news, one Subic Pajero bumaliktad sa NLEX then engulfed in flames

[renzo_d10]

^ Mukhang local naman yata trip ni TS.

BTT :

Pajero ako. Tougher in terms of looks and reliability. Rugged. Can-go-anywhere car. ;)

[myk384]

^ Mukhang local naman yata trip ni TS.

BTT :

Pajero ako. Tougher in terms of looks and reliability. Rugged. Can-go-anywhere car. ;)

+1, Pajero is good for TS... have you also considered Patrol??

[voltscastillo]

CRV pros:

1. maluwag sa loob
2. very very reliable
3. maganda aircon
4. matulin
5. mas safe (dual airbags sa front)
6. 4x4

CRV Cons:

1. malakas sa gasolina
2. kalampagin pag pinabayaan
3. mahal ang piyesa
4. pag nag overheat sa dating may-ari ikaw ang sasalo ng lahat ng magiging sakit down the line.
5. nasisira ang rear 4x4 mechanism pag pinabayaan (55K pesos ang replacement piyesa)

PAJERO Pros:

1. diesel
2. matibay ang kaha at pang-ilalim
3. pwede lagyan ng jumpseats sa likod
4. enormous cargo carrying capability
5. real 4x4 with 4Hi and 4Low Locked
6. hindi maarte sa daanan at machong macho

PAJERO Cons:

1. sirain ang 4d56 turbo engine. i had to overhaul mine, twice in 1 year!
2. nakakapagod imaneho ng malayo lalo na pag karag karag yung nabili mo
3. mahina ang aircon. as in.
4. napaka mahal ng bagong goma. +-7,000 each.
5. mahirap na humanap ng presko na walang ipapagawa... yung mga presko presyong ayaw ibenta
6. makupad

[bongsaning]

^ Mukhang local naman yata trip ni TS.

BTT :

Pajero ako. Tougher in terms of looks and reliability. Rugged. Can-go-anywhere car. ;)


Yes sir, local ung gusto ko sana. Thanks sa advice

[bongsaning]

+1, Pajero is good for TS... have you also considered Patrol??

i did sir. medyo ayaw lang ng family ko dahil daw sa performance issues.

[bongsaning]

PAJERO Cons:

1. sirain ang 4d56 turbo engine. i had to overhaul mine, twice in 1 year!
2. nakakapagod imaneho ng malayo lalo na pag karag karag yung nabili mo
3. mahina ang aircon. as in.
4. napaka mahal ng bagong goma. +-7,000 each.
5. mahirap na humanap ng presko na walang ipapagawa... yung mga presko presyong ayaw ibenta
6. makupad

Sir sobrang thanks sa input. Parang mas konti ang magiging problema ko sa CRV tama po ba?

[blue_gambit]

Sir sobrang thanks sa input. Parang mas konti ang magiging problema ko sa CRV tama po ba?

Yup tama, mag cr-v ka na lang sir. Gas consumption lang problem mo sa kanya, tapos since 10 years old na sya set aside ka na rin ng cash for repairs.


On a side note: any car poorly maintained and poorly rebuilt will break easily.

[voltscastillo]

Sir sobrang thanks sa input. Parang mas konti ang magiging problema ko sa CRV tama po ba?

in short, yes. for normal everyday paved road driving (with the occasional offroad) the CRV would be the better car.

i've owned and used for a number of years both cars na pinagpipilian mo... and while i loved my pajero, talaga naman nagugupo ako sa gastos (bought mine 2nd hand with loose compression). medyo maarte ako sa maintenance at ayoko ng tumitirik sa daan, pero sa pajero, nakatikim ako nito many times. probably with the age of the car na din kaya ganun.

if gagamitin mo sa probinsya na bahain or marami maalikabok na daan or putikan, the best ang pajero. mawawasak ang CRV sa mga ganitong lugar.

i've had no issues sa crv ko nun (bought new). meron pala, naging makalampag na sya sa 4th year of ownership ko.

eto mga naranasan ko sa paje ko nun:

1. mahal ng goma. kung bumile ako nun 2 pcs lang, kasi di kaya ng 4.
2. blowby ng makina medyo grabe na. 1st overhaul palpak, bumgay after 6 months blow by nanaman. had to redo the thing.
3. broken clutch, clutch mechanism. lusot clutch ko sa qc circle caused a massive traffic jam. kakahiya.
4. overheat, mga 3 times.
5. kalampag.
6. aircon pinalakasan.
7. faulty 4wd switch.
8. many more..

sa crv ko eto naranasan ko:

1. kalampag
2. pundido headlights sa 3rd year.

yung gas consumption issue ng crv marami fix jan. if you use the correct sparkplug, keep the air filters clean and your tyres properly inflated, matipid din sya for its weight and engine size (2.0 ito, hindi ito kasing tipid ng corolla syempre).

[renzo_d10]

^ Question lang bro volts, sa'n ka nagpaoverhaul ng pajero ? Mukhang scary diyan sa shop na yan ha ....

[blue_gambit]

in short, yes. for normal everyday paved road driving (with the occasional offroad) the CRV would be the better car.

i've owned and used for a number of years both cars na pinagpipilian mo... and while i loved my pajero, talaga naman nagugupo ako sa gastos (bought mine 2nd hand with loose compression). medyo maarte ako sa maintenance at ayoko ng tumitirik sa daan, pero sa pajero, nakatikim ako nito many times. probably with the age of the car na din kaya ganun.

if gagamitin mo sa probinsya na bahain or marami maalikabok na daan or putikan, the best ang pajero. mawawasak ang CRV sa mga ganitong lugar.

i've had no issues sa crv ko nun (bought new). meron pala, naging makalampag na sya sa 4th year of ownership ko.

eto mga naranasan ko sa paje ko nun:

1. mahal ng goma. kung bumile ako nun 2 pcs lang, kasi di kaya ng 4.
2. blowby ng makina medyo grabe na. 1st overhaul palpak, bumgay after 6 months blow by nanaman. had to redo the thing.
3. broken clutch, clutch mechanism. lusot clutch ko sa qc circle caused a massive traffic jam. kakahiya.
4. overheat, mga 3 times.
5. kalampag.
6. aircon pinalakasan.
7. faulty 4wd switch.
8. many more..

sa crv ko eto naranasan ko:

1. kalampag
2. pundido headlights sa 3rd year.

yung gas consumption issue ng crv marami fix jan. if you use the correct sparkplug, keep the air filters clean and your tyres properly inflated, matipid din sya for its weight and engine size (2.0 ito, hindi ito kasing tipid ng corolla syempre).

sir voltscastillo it seems na niloko ka lang ng shop na pinag pagawaan mo ng pajero. renzo is right you should post the name of the shop as so other tsikoteers wont fooled by that shop.

In fairness to the pajero, it hasn't given me any headaches like that. just the tires they're really expensive. but hey thats how much I love my truck... hehehe

[ans_lim168]

Depends on what you are going for, depends also how many kids would you like? If 2 kids the CRV is just fine, but with 3 up get the Pajero, just get the unit which is maintained properly, and get the manual transmission.

[voltscastillo]

^ Question lang bro volts, sa'n ka nagpaoverhaul ng pajero ? Mukhang scary diyan sa shop na yan ha ....

shadetree mechanic lang yung tumira nun dude... wala na sya ngayon. last time i visited his place was '03, papa adjust ko sana yung 2nd overhaul nya sa pajero ko, pero bakante na yung shop nya. turned out, may niloko din sya na pulis pala sa lugar na yun (malapit sa chinese gen), papatayin daw sya so tumakas na sa bicol or something. served him right, that asshole...

kaya these days, i never recommend yung freelance mechanics sa tabi tabi. we're at their mercy kasi. buti kung matagal nyo na kilala at totally trusted talaga. eh my experience sa paje (hindi lang sa dun sa overhaul, medyo eng-eng pa kasi ako sa car maintenance nun eh kaya laki ng tiwala ko dun sa mga nagmamarunong) ay 70% ng mekaniko na free lance ay kumakanta ng happy days are here again pag nakita nila magpapa ayos ka ng pajero.

BTT:

to the threadstarter... dude it's your money. you can choose the paje or the crv, both are good cars naman basta well maintained at hindi singaw ang makina.

pero think economics here. good condition pajero 1996s still cost upwards of 400K (may 650 pa nga eh, dun sa kotse network sm fairview... muntik nako matawa eh). good condition, newer crvs cost 350-400. sa edad pa lang its assumed na mas marami ka ipapa ayos sa paje.

don't get me wrong though. the pajero used to be my dream car. when i bought it i thought, wow, dad ko hindi nakabili nito, pero ako nakabili... wehehehe

my point is that, kung hindi ka naman paje enthusiast or wala ka need for such a go-anywhere brutal vehicle, mag CRV ka na lang.